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05/17/2006 08:03:08 PM · #101 |
I think some people have mistaken "Still Life" for "Free Study".
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05/17/2006 09:58:35 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
I think some people have mistaken "Still Life" for "Free Study". |
A few of the submissions, yes.
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05/17/2006 11:11:10 PM · #103 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by keegbow:
I think some people have mistaken "Still Life" for "Free Study". |
A few of the submissions, yes. |
just done a quick count and IMHO 10% of the entries were off target, thats probably on par with most challenges.
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05/18/2006 10:50:09 AM · #104 |
i stopped voting. There are just so many images that are not still life at all. A sunset, WTF? Its really too bad, some are nice images too. I am a pretty harsh voter when it comes to something so obviously off topic. I give 1s for those, even if it is a great photo. Fitting the topic is number 1 criteria to me and when they are so far off, I feel it is a purposeful waste of my time. The photographer knows they are way off, but submit anyway. It reminds me of when I would be unprepared for an exam in high school. I would write an essay on something, actually anything. I figured if I was forced to be at the test, I would at least force the teacher to read something. One time I wrote an essay about the crazy mishaps of my golden retriever Sam when I was supposed to explain the main themes of a book I didn't read.
Disclaimer: The 1's I give out are for obvious DNMC. Im talking sunsets or candids for the still life challenge. If there is any slight connection that is reasonable, i vote seriously. |
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05/18/2006 11:11:00 AM · #105 |
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:
i stopped voting. There are just so many images that are not still life at all. ... |
Don't do that! If you have time keep going - those that met the criteria need your vote. Please? ;^) |
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05/18/2006 11:13:08 AM · #106 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:
i stopped voting. There are just so many images that are not still life at all. ... |
Don't do that! If you have time keep going - those that met the criteria need your vote. Please? ;^) |
I agree >.< cos mine does |
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05/18/2006 11:15:06 AM · #107 |
I'm not sure of mine...
By one definition here it does, by another it does not. My votes tend to be really high or really low. |
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05/18/2006 11:17:17 AM · #108 |
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05/18/2006 11:37:15 AM · #109 |
| I am also surprised by how many entries have failed the challenge. I voted less (1-3 ) for those entries who have failed the challenge. If someone submits a sunset picture or seascape it is clearly a 1-2 for not meeting the brief regardless on how good it is. We are all here to learn and therefore we should stick to what the challenge is all about to see the difference of other peoples work. Don't you all agree? |
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05/18/2006 11:43:25 AM · #110 |
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:
i stopped voting. There are just so many images that are not still life at all. A sunset, WTF? Its really too bad, some are nice images too. I am a pretty harsh voter when it comes to something so obviously off topic. I give 1s for those, even if it is a great photo. Fitting the topic is number 1 criteria to me and when they are so far off, I feel it is a purposeful waste of my time. The photographer knows they are way off, but submit anyway. It reminds me of when I would be unprepared for an exam in high school. I would write an essay on something, actually anything. I figured if I was forced to be at the test, I would at least force the teacher to read something. One time I wrote an essay about the crazy mishaps of my golden retriever Sam when I was supposed to explain the main themes of a book I didn't read.
Disclaimer: The 1's I give out are for obvious DNMC. Im talking sunsets or candids for the still life challenge. If there is any slight connection that is reasonable, i vote seriously. |
Actually that shortchanges the photos that you didn't vote on which do meet the challenge and "saves" those that don't from the low scores they deserve. No wonder so many DNMCs score mindbogglingly high.
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05/18/2006 12:43:38 PM · #111 |
A rare instance of "mindbogglingly" used in a sentence!!
Good point, but doesn't that apply for any challenge you don't complete voting on? Personally, I think the issue is when you cherrypick which pictures to vote on if you don't do them all. |
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05/18/2006 12:47:18 PM · #112 |
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
A rare instance of "mindbogglingly" used in a sentence!!
Good point, but doesn't that apply for any challenge you don't complete voting on? Personally, I think the issue is when you cherrypick which pictures to vote on if you don't do them all. |
That's right. And that's why I always vote on every photo in a challenge. Skipping the ones that don't suit me is just giving them an opportunity to fly under the radar.
Edit: RE: "mindbogglingly" - I am cursed with a writing degree... my vocabulary sometimes runs away with me ;-)
Message edited by author 2006-05-18 14:03:03.
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05/18/2006 01:30:09 PM · #113 |
I was going to enter a pic of a bug that was not dead yet just for fun...
I was going to title it 'Still Alive'.
I'm kinda glad I didn't. :) |
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05/18/2006 01:36:27 PM · #114 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
I was going to enter a pic of a bug that was not dead yet just for fun...
I was going to title it 'Still Alive'.
I'm kinda glad I didn't. :) |
If you entered that photo and had that as a title, then I can accept the spin on it and would rate it on photo quality and creativity. That is what i call thinking out of the box. But some of the ones I voted on didn't even see the box. |
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05/18/2006 01:46:49 PM · #115 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
I was going to enter a pic of a bug that was not dead yet just for fun...
I was going to title it 'Still Alive'.
I'm kinda glad I didn't. :) |
I'm sure you would have rec'd some 'lively' comments. ;^) Probably a good thing you didn't. |
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05/18/2006 02:46:13 PM · #116 |
"still life" is a compound noun and not a noun phrase
if it were a noun phrase then elements of the word 'still' and the word 'life' would be involved in interpretation of the phrase
it is not a noun phrase, so the individual elemnt words do not necessarily bring anything to the meaning of the term
a still life is a picture of a set of inanimate objects, arranged and composed for visual effect |
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05/18/2006 02:57:09 PM · #117 |
have just finished the first round of voting. all of them. it was a little depressing. now to go back and tweak. and explain why some stunning images only got a 5.
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05/18/2006 02:59:47 PM · #118 |
Originally posted by raish:
"still life" is a compound noun and not a noun phrase
if it were a noun phrase then elements of the word 'still' and the word 'life' would be involved in interpretation of the phrase
it is not a noun phrase, so the individual elemnt words do not necessarily bring anything to the meaning of the term
a still life is a picture of a set of inanimate objects, arranged and composed for visual effect |
Dude - you are wrong. A still life CAN BE ONE OBJECT - arranged and shot as a study of that object. You should do some research before leaving comments on people's shots like "does not meet challenge because there is only one or only two objects...." I am an art school graduate, I studied this and other related art topics for years.... what's your background?
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05/18/2006 03:02:42 PM · #119 |
Originally posted by raish:
"still life" is a compound noun and not a noun phrase
if it were a noun phrase then elements of the word 'still' and the word 'life' would be involved in interpretation of the phrase
it is not a noun phrase, so the individual elemnt words do not necessarily bring anything to the meaning of the term
a still life is a picture of a set of inanimate objects, arranged and composed for visual effect |
Are you going to diagram some sentences too? |
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05/18/2006 03:14:19 PM · #120 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Dude - you are wrong. A still life CAN BE ONE OBJECT - arranged and shot as a study of that object. You should do some research before leaving comments on people's shots like "does not meet challenge because there is only one or only two objects...." I am an art school graduate, I studied this and other related art topics for years.... what's your background? |
You got me bang to rights. My background is, or ideally would be, an integral part of the composition of the still life picture of me, but only after I'm fossilised. My arteries are working on that. (Actually, I'm an art teacher, but I think you know a lot more about this stuff than me). |
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05/18/2006 03:14:36 PM · #121 |
Originally posted by raish:
"still life" is a compound noun and not a noun phrase
if it were a noun phrase then elements of the word 'still' and the word 'life' would be involved in interpretation of the phrase
it is not a noun phrase, so the individual elemnt words do not necessarily bring anything to the meaning of the term
a still life is a picture of a set of inanimate objects, arranged and composed for visual effect |
?!?!? |
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05/18/2006 03:17:53 PM · #122 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Are you going to diagram some sentences too? |
I have to be boring to make up for all the funny people.
I think we should all present pretty sentence diagrams, composed for visual effect with absolutely no concern for grammar. Unlimited editing. |
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05/18/2006 03:20:47 PM · #123 |
It can be one object, but isn't typically, and every definition I see supports "an arrangement of objects" as the typical definition, which definitely implies a plural. This is what most of the reasonably informed voters here are going on, I'm sure. It would be nice if we all had art school credentials, but we don't. A quick bit of research when you're on a quick deadline is what you (and the rest of us) get. My perfectly acceptable still life isn't scoring well either. Please stop talking down to us?
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by raish:
"still life" is a compound noun and not a noun phrase
if it were a noun phrase then elements of the word 'still' and the word 'life' would be involved in interpretation of the phrase
it is not a noun phrase, so the individual elemnt words do not necessarily bring anything to the meaning of the term
a still life is a picture of a set of inanimate objects, arranged and composed for visual effect |
Dude - you are wrong. A still life CAN BE ONE OBJECT - arranged and shot as a study of that object. You should do some research before leaving comments on people's shots like "does not meet challenge because there is only one or only two objects...." I am an art school graduate, I studied this and other related art topics for years.... what's your background? |
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05/18/2006 03:23:35 PM · #124 |
[quote=karmabreeze] It can be one object, but isn't typically, and every definition I see supports "an arrangement of objects" as the typical definition, which definitely implies a plural. This is what most of the reasonably informed voters here are going on, I'm sure. It would be nice if we all had art school credentials, but we don't. A quick bit of research when you're on a quick deadline is what you (and the rest of us) get. My perfectly acceptable still life isn't scoring well either. Please stop talking down to us?
I'm sorry If I offended you, but I was only speaking to raish and about a specific comment he made, and I'm sure he knows what I mean. I am in no way speaking down to this community - and I don't think others should either in their challenge comments.
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05/18/2006 03:23:48 PM · #125 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
Originally posted by raish:
"still life" is a compound noun and not a noun phrase
if it were a noun phrase then elements of the word 'still' and the word 'life' would be involved in interpretation of the phrase
it is not a noun phrase, so the individual elemnt words do not necessarily bring anything to the meaning of the term
a still life is a picture of a set of inanimate objects, arranged and composed for visual effect |
?!?!? |
It's like 'ball park', which cannot have any reference to parking balls.
'Ball bearing' (unless you really feel the need to pun) is not the act of carrying the balls to a game or going to a fancy dress ball dressed as a bear etc.
'still life' is not something that's alive but doesn't move around much. |
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