Photographers Responsibility? - DPChallenge Forums

07/21/2006 01:09:59 PM · #26

I disagree littlegett ... as is my right as a human. :-P

I consider myself some what an artist. I play music and write songs, I am a amature photographer and I am a digital graphics guy. To all these things I choose to create I feel I have a RESPOSABILITY to my self to do this the best I can and to share honestly with those that come into contact with my creations. Like Shakespeare said "To thy own self be true". Being true to myself is my responsibility.

I have a songwriter/musician friend and he is compelled daily to create music not because he chooses to but because he is tormented if he doesn't. His RESPOSIBILITY is to create everyday. He has no choice.

See it how you will (See the Shakespeare quote) but I believe that most who consider them selves an artist feel a real RESPOSABILITY to there art and craft.

Just my $.02

Message edited by author 2006-07-21 13:23:41.

littlegett

Canon EOS-20D

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

07/21/2006 01:55:49 PM · #27

always your right to disagree no argument there.

Yet, if you saw my first post.... 'unless, they place it upon themselves'

To me, that is a whole nother topic.

As vague as the topic is, I take it for 'outside' responcibility, which there is none.

As for thy ownself be true.... That is for you to figure out.

coolhar

07/21/2006 02:09:22 PM · #28

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

... I have a songwriter/musician friend and he is compelled daily to create music not because he chooses to but because he is tormented if he doesn't. His RESPOSIBILITY is to create everyday. He has no choice. ...

Art does not flow from forced "creation".

fotomann_forever

07/21/2006 02:16:47 PM · #29

I take no responsibility for my art, I leave it to the viewer to take from it what they want from it. I produce what amuses me.

OdysseyF22

Panasonic DC-G9

Olympus 12-45mm /f4.0 Pro

07/21/2006 02:17:23 PM · #30

Originally posted by coolhar:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
... I have a songwriter/musician friend and he is compelled daily to create music not because he chooses to but because he is tormented if he doesn't. His RESPOSIBILITY is to create everyday. He has no choice. ...

Art does not flow from forced "creation".

He didn't say it was forced, he said that his friend was tormented if he didn't create. Big difference. If you've got so much that it's pushing against you and you just have to let it out, that's not the same as making yourself create. It's expression.

07/21/2006 02:19:01 PM · #31

Passion forces it. He can't live without creating. It is what makes him him. You don't have to agree but my bro Dave would kill himself if he could not create his music.

You have stated that you are not an artist (or at least you don't want to be forced to be an artist) so I don't expect you to understand.

Regards

Erick

Message edited by author 2006-07-21 14:32:28.

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

07/21/2006 02:32:18 PM · #32

This is wayyy to deep for a Friday.

I like beer!

fotomann_forever

07/21/2006 02:34:44 PM · #33

Originally posted by LoudDog:

This is wayyy to deep for a Friday.

I like beer!

mmmmmm...beeeeer

ralph

Nikon Z9

07/21/2006 02:35:18 PM · #34

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by LoudDog:
This is wayyy to deep for a Friday.

I like beer!

mmmmmm...beeeeer

beat me to it ,,,
mmmmmm...

littlegett

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/21/2006 09:10:38 PM · #35

Originally posted by coolhar:

I have to agry with 'Art Does not flow from the Forced "creation"'

Ok, Since you brought up your very passionate friend. Answer me this. How much of what he creates everyday does he keep? How much gets filed in the round cabinete?

Is his daily creation progressing? Is it really healthy for him? has it become an obsession??

I am an artist. Of many differnt types of mediums. My skill level isn't what is important here, but, my aspect from my stance as a artist is.

But, maybe I guess that is my problem holding me back. I don't have the overwelming desire such as your friend.

I am not so focused on one thing all of my eggs end up in one basket. And personaly, I don't understand people whom are. How, 'creating music' every day is all they live for, and if they couldn't they would end their lives.... I don't understand that concept.

There are a million and one other things out there in the world, to feel, touch, smell, experance.... but... to master one to give up the rest... is a personal choice.

One choice I won't make.

So, my responsibility as a photographer, is none. My responsibility to my client is whatever it is. My responsibitlity to myself, is to enjoy life. My responsibility to others is none.

Abit right or wrong in your eyes... it is the world as I see it through mine.

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II

07/21/2006 09:27:05 PM · #36

Apart from the specific roles a photographer plays I don't think there is any responsibility to the art itself. It is what it is, depending on what the photg wants it to be and why the image is captured.

The responsibility comes from the roles when shooting for a specific job - like a photo-journo has the responsibility to show what was really there, a sports photg to capture the event and sponsorship signs & what not...

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/21/2006 09:50:20 PM · #37

Originally posted by littlegett:

Originally posted by coolhar:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
... I have a songwriter/musician friend and he is compelled daily to create music not because he chooses to but because he is tormented if he doesn't. His RESPOSIBILITY is to create everyday. He has no choice. ...

Art does not flow from forced "creation".

I have to agry with 'Art Does not flow from the Forced "creation"'

Ok, Since you brought up your very passionate friend. Answer me this. How much of what he creates everyday does he keep? How much gets filed in the round cabinete?

Is his daily creation progressing? Is it really healthy for him? has it become an obsession??

I am an artist. Of many differnt types of mediums. My skill level isn't what is important here, but, my aspect from my stance as a artist is.

But, maybe I guess that is my problem holding me back. I don't have the overwelming desire such as your friend.

I am not so focused on one thing all of my eggs end up in one basket. And personaly, I don't understand people whom are. How, 'creating music' every day is all they live for, and if they couldn't they would end their lives.... I don't understand that concept.

There are a million and one other things out there in the world, to feel, touch, smell, experance.... but... to master one to give up the rest... is a personal choice.

One choice I won't make.

So, my responsibility as a photographer, is none. My responsibility to my client is whatever it is. My responsibitlity to myself, is to enjoy life. My responsibility to others is none.

Abit right or wrong in your eyes... it is the world as I see it through mine.

Cool! Rock On!

:-)

wavelength

Nikon D300

07/21/2006 10:03:45 PM · #38

Responsibility is the same for everyone, and does exist.

If it didn't, you wouldn't even understand the concept. Since you DO understand the concept, you have responsibility, because in understanding it, you prove it exists. If it were not there, you would have nothing of it to understand, and would not know the meaning of the word.

Every society has responsibility, communism, capitalism, imperialism, all of them. Basically, just by being alive, you have a responsibility put upon you by society. You had no choice in it, it is forced upon you. If you rebel against it, more will be burdened upon you.

Humans place these restrictions upon each other because they understand responsibility. They know that the actions of others affect them every day. They can feel the way a negative attitude or action affects them, and the other person is in some way responsibly by their actions. Their actions in repsonse, also create their own culpability.

Responsibility is everywhere.

muckpond

Nikon D200

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

07/21/2006 11:11:05 PM · #39

i like to think that it's my duty to capture images of the ridiculous -- before the subjects realize it and fix it.

today i spent 15 minutes walking behind a woman at the grocery store who had one curler hanging down the middle of the back of her head. i was really kicking myself for leaving my camera at home. she didn't notice it until the cake mix aisle.

stuff like that is why i shoot. :)

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

07/21/2006 11:36:45 PM · #40

Originally posted by OdysseyF22:

Sorry, but I don't see any difference.

This whole thread impresses me about as much as two drunks argueing who saw the wind first.

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/21/2006 11:46:42 PM · #41

Originally posted by coolhar:

This whole thread impresses me about as much as two drunks argueing who saw the wind first.

Harv, I would be suprised if anything impressed you. Jesus Christ could come back riding on a golden firey chariot, and your reponse would probably be "Pffft, amature! I could have done that better in my sleep. My grandma drives a chariot better than that!"

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

07/21/2006 11:47:44 PM · #42

Originally posted by coolhar:

Originally posted by OdysseyF22:

Originally posted by coolhar:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
... I have a songwriter/musician friend and he is compelled daily to create music not because he chooses to but because he is tormented if he doesn't. His RESPOSIBILITY is to create everyday. He has no choice. ...

Art does not flow from forced "creation".

He didn't say it was forced, he said that his friend was tormented if he didn't create. Big difference. If you've got so much that it's pushing against you and you just have to let it out, that's not the same as making yourself create. It's expression.
Sorry, but I don't see any difference.

This whole thread impresses me about as much as two drunks argueing who saw the wind first.

LOL The ART of the joke! Very good!

:-P

sacredspirit

Canon EOS-600D/T3i Rebel

07/21/2006 11:48:57 PM · #43

A sincere cryout for the poets, and clear minded of the club.

I really didn't intend on the responsibility be batted around so damn much.

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/21/2006 11:58:24 PM · #44

Originally posted by sacredspirit:

A sincere cryout for the poets, and clear minded of the club.

I really didn't intend on the responsibility be batted around so damn much.

Symantecs are so much more diverting than getting to the point.

fotomann_forever

07/22/2006 12:01:09 AM · #45

Originally posted by muckpond:

I like the way you think.

littlegett

Canon EOS-20D