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04/16/2003 03:44:59 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by STEINR:
With all the discussion of editting and the rules around editting, i wonder if it would be fun to have a challenge where no editting was a loud. Maybe a crop here and there, but no editting, no borders, etc.... |
Hold on... "no editting a loud"? |
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04/16/2003 04:17:55 PM · #27 |
| You can't edit the sound portion... |
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04/16/2003 04:52:29 PM · #28 |
lol
I think the spirit (maybe?) of the suggestion is to focus a particular challenge on the the shooting technique by removing the option of post processing. It's not necessarily a knock against post processing, just another "challenge": how good are your shots straight off the ccd. In that spirit, judging might be directed at composition, framing (as in how you framed you shot, not borders), lighting - how good of an eye do you have for the shot, and how well you can capture that with just your camera. In that spirit, I would even suggest no cropping. Submit your shot straight from the camera. Someone mentioned processing that can be done while converting from raw to jpeg - I don't know if or how this could be verified.
To even the playing field, if it's possible to "police", it might even be interesting to limit certain high-end features on some cameras, assuming that the use of these features are recorded in the exif data. Here I'm getting into no-man's land for me. I'm not sure exactly what features might be appropriate to limit, or whether their use can be checked. Just a thought. |
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04/16/2003 05:16:07 PM · #29 |
Well the only DSLR that I know if that can't shoot in jpg more is the Sigma SD9. I know I have seen at least one user here who has one. Aside from the SD9 users I everyone else can shoot in jpg.
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04/16/2003 05:25:37 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by dadas115:
Well the only DSLR that I know if that can't shoot in jpg more is the Sigma SD9. I know I have seen at least one user here who has one. Aside from the SD9 users I everyone else can shoot in jpg.
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True enough, and the shooting mode is in the EXIF if we think we need to check - it could be fun |
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04/16/2003 05:29:59 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by sher9204:
i think it's a fine challenge for the photographers with cameras that allow in-camera adjustments, but one that i and others with lower-end cameras would not be able to compete.
how about making it just a point & shoot challenge...no in-camera adjustments allowed other than focusing and no post processing other than resizing? |
My 'lower-end' Canon A40 can do all sorts of funky things with colours (Vivid/B&W/Sepia) that my 602 can't!
As for the "rules" I would argue that if you're going to disallow post-processing you have to disallow cropping too. |
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04/16/2003 06:28:44 PM · #32 |
Hmmm, you can probably do well with a high end camera with in camera processing, you just have to play with it. This usually means for the 10D that i need to sharpen with +1 and maybe +1 for saturation, as teh saturation for 10D is less than D30....
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by sher9204:
i think it's a fine challenge for the photographers with cameras that allow in-camera adjustments, but one that i and others with lower-end cameras would not be able to compete.
how about making it just a point & shoot challenge...no in-camera adjustments allowed other than focusing and no post processing other than resizing? |
So I'm hearing in this thread that high end cameras would be at a disadvantage because post-processing is almost required.
I'm also hearing low-end cameras would be at a disadvantage because they require post-processing. By the way, the Olympus D-460z has about the same in camera adjustments as the Canon D60 has, with sharpness controls, exposure compensation and white balance (no contrast/ saturation)
So it's a universally unfair challenge, or is it just fair on the people that haven't downloaded decent postprocessing tools (which can be had for free) and learned how to use them ?
Post-processing is part of digital and film photography - maybe we should run classes or something... |
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04/16/2003 08:04:15 PM · #33 |
| There is alot to be said in what makes a good picture, remember a picture says a thousand words, composition, subject, angle, color, purpose, who, what and where. I have photoshop, but I hate to use it myself, I feel I have already failed at my objective if I have to. Making a good picture for other's to enjoy is what I want. I think this would be a great Idea, maybe one of the hardest, being you can't make a o.k picture good with P.S work. A good challenge for all camera's, and alot more picture's in the trash-bin. |
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04/16/2003 08:58:14 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by joebar:
Originally posted by STEINR:
With all the discussion of editting and the rules around editting, i wonder if it would be fun to have a challenge where no editting was a loud. Maybe a crop here and there, but no editting, no borders, etc.... |
Hold on... "no editting a loud"? |
certainly a play on words by me, i'm glad you saw the humor
and anyway, it passed spell check
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04/16/2003 09:46:53 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by STEINR:
and anyway, it passed spell check |
Yes! Another one for my collection... |
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