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06/04/2003 03:27:39 PM · #51
LOL Gordon -- i can probaly take a photograph of a PRISON and call it Martha Stewart Living given today's federal indictments on her :)


Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Magazine cover photos should probably be shot in vertical orientation with space in the image for a magazine title...


I'm tending to disagree with this, though I do expect people to vote this way. As an example:

before:


after:
06/04/2003 03:41:14 PM · #52
Ok, im really stuck on this "Magazine" challenge and reading the other posts have made me even more confused. Exactly what are we taking photos of? Is it:
-Make up your own cover photo of a magazine
-With words and cover text (if so is this not Spot editing?)
-If it is take a 'cover photo' for your magazine then surely thats going to be a bit pointless/difficult since most magazines (i.e Fashion) are the same- just have some random model- dont really have individual covers (such as glamour, fashion etc.)
06/04/2003 03:49:26 PM · #53
OK, lets take time magazine. Options would be
1) take a photo of a clock
2) take a photo of george bush or baghdad or something
3) take a photo of the magazine being read by somebody.

We're getting into the argument of taking things literally again here aren't we?
06/04/2003 03:53:26 PM · #54
My understanding of this challenge is very straightforward and I think people are trying to put too much spin on it.

IMO, the challenge is: take a picture and submit it as usual, with no text, no graphics work, usual editing rules. The title of the image should represent the title of the magazine to which you would submit this photograph as a suggested cover.


06/04/2003 03:55:51 PM · #55
Sorry for adding to the confusion -- Jak is right, I just posted that as an example of a photo used on a cover.

However, for this challenge, there should be no text or layout. In Gordon's example the photo was re-cropped for the cover mockup.

I think you need to pick a magazine title, and then shoot a picture that you think is a typical image for that magazine to use. Most magazines use a full-bleed photo with type over it, and I would suggest using a vertical format rather than one like I used, and compose it with though given to where the type might go.
06/04/2003 05:31:30 PM · #56
Originally posted by ScottK:

On the question of obscure magazines: My first idea was for a niche mag that probably few would know about. My thought was to include the URL for the magazines web site in the title. For example (and this isn't the one I'm thinking of): "Time - //www.time.com". This might also help with John's concern, say for example "Time: Man of the Year". You're still stuck with the name of the mag in your title, but it still leaves you the room to add your own creative touch.

This doesn't technically match the wording in the description: "The title of the photograph should BE the name of your magazine." But it seems to get to the spirit, which is to be able to identify what magazine you'ld be intending the picture to be for. Does this seem acceptable?


It does to me. I think the idea is just to identify the magazine the photo would putatively be for, so adding additional things seems fine to me once that's done. In the latter case, adding a subtitle makes sense as cover features often have their title in large enough print to be as immediately noticeable as the magazine logo, in fact.

Adding the URL is also a nice touch for those of us who will scratch our heads and say "The which now magazine?" I doubt I would go and look at each and every one, but there's a chance that if the magazine title itself doesn't give me a good idea what sorts of things are appropriate for the cover I would look it up.
06/04/2003 06:09:17 PM · #57
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Most magazines use a full-bleed photo with type over it, and I would suggest using a vertical format rather than one like I used, and compose it with though given to where the type might go.


What is a "full-bleed" photo?

BTW - I think I saw a "part-bleed" photo in the Liquids challenge.

Message edited by author 2003-06-04 18:13:55.
06/04/2003 06:16:32 PM · #58
Originally posted by uabresch:

What is a "full-bleed" photo?

That's where you have to sweat blood to get the shot ; )

I'm not certain but maybe it means borderless?
06/04/2003 06:18:06 PM · #59
Originally posted by bod:

[quote=uabresch]What is a "full-bleed" photo?

That's where you have to sweat blood to get the shot ; )
quote]

That's kinda what I was thinking :) But ...
06/04/2003 06:23:24 PM · #60
Originally posted by bod:

Originally posted by uabresch:

What is a "full-bleed" photo?

That's where you have to sweat blood to get the shot ; )

I'm not certain but maybe it means borderless?

Yes, I meant one picture that takes up the whole front of the cover, with or without border, etc. Not a small picture in the corner like my example below, which is more like a technical journal or trade magazine or newsletter. We would have to be creative (and daring) to try and prepare a photo-montage (a la Newsweek maybe?).

A suggestion: find a copy of the magazine you to which plan to submit your freelance cover photo (don't we wish!) and MEASURE it and make sure your image conforms to that aspect ratio. Check where they usually position the text elements. A photo which would have the main subject obscured by the title of the particular magazine selected should receive a lowered (NOT low) vote, even if artistically and technically excellent.

Message edited by author 2003-06-04 18:26:07.
06/04/2003 06:30:44 PM · #61
Originally posted by GeneralE:

A photo which would have the main subject obscured by the title of the particular magazine selected should receive a lowered (NOT low) vote, even if artistically and technically excellent.


Hmmmm. I suspect we might not have even heard of many of the mags about to be photographed, let alone their stylistic foibles! :-)
06/04/2003 06:49:15 PM · #62
Well people who stick to mainstream mags better be most careful then ... I wouldn't suggest putting the main point of interest on/above the upper 1/3 line though.
06/04/2003 08:52:00 PM · #63
Originally posted by Jak:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

A photo which would have the main subject obscured by the title of the particular magazine selected should receive a lowered (NOT low) vote, even if artistically and technically excellent.


Hmmmm. I suspect we might not have even heard of many of the mags about to be photographed, let alone their stylistic foibles! :-)


Not all magazines put their title etc. in the same place. Some show the subject through the title. Infact I have seen a lot that will put their title behind the main subject.

Not that maxim is my favorate Magazine, but I know they do this all the time.

06/04/2003 08:54:28 PM · #64
Speaking of Maxim, I can't imagine that should be anyone's choice. Because it's just not going to look like Maxim with out major spot editing and other "Photoshopping."
06/04/2003 11:11:07 PM · #65
Originally posted by ScottK:

On the question of obscure magazines: My first idea was for a niche mag that probably few would know about. My thought was to include the URL for the magazines web site in the title. For example (and this isn't the one I'm thinking of): "Time - //www.time.com".


I was wondering the same kind of thing I was thinking at first of using a very obscure magazine that only people who were into the activity would know about, but my second thought was nope won't work not here no one would believe there was a magazine by that title without first seeing it, and I can't title it for example "Magazine visit us at //www.magazine.com" can I?
06/04/2003 11:56:15 PM · #66
Good Housekeeping also does the title-behind-model style of cover. Not that I read GH, but I see it in grocery store lines a lot.
06/05/2003 01:37:38 AM · #67
Originally posted by oldwisemonk:

Speaking of Maxim, I can't imagine that should be anyone's choice. Because it's just not going to look like Maxim with out major spot editing and other "Photoshopping."


For that matter, how many playboy/penthouse attempts will there be??? Could it become an adult-only challenge? (I was just glad my daughter went to bed before I got to the "liquid dreams" photo last night... :-( )
06/05/2003 03:52:34 AM · #68
My opinion is that this challenge is an easy one, theres a magazine for almost everything, the other day I was in a pizza shop and they had a pizza magazine. Take a photo of whatever you think looks good, think of what category it fits into, and then go to google and look for the name of the magazine, thats what I did with my chess photo.

Message edited by author 2003-06-05 03:54:32.
06/05/2003 04:09:51 AM · #69
Gordon, you did a great job with your Magazine cover :) It also shows that the picture should be magazine-cover material and not necessarily in a vertical format. Our magazine Art Directors will take care of the necessary editing; we are just the photographers out on assignment:)

Has there EVER been a week when there was not extensive speculation about the current challenge? Ever ??? :)
06/05/2003 05:34:51 AM · #70
Can's wait to see what the 'sunset' shooters will bring out...
the 'sunset' magazine? ;-)
06/05/2003 12:44:14 PM · #71
For my first post, i would like to know if the "invert" function in Photoshop is allowed to use?
06/05/2003 12:51:19 PM · #72
I have a feeling that they meant an existing magazine not a fictitious one. I also have an issue with copyright rules, therefore not to violate any I am skipping this challenge. Cheers!
06/05/2003 12:51:29 PM · #73
Originally posted by The Kid:

For my first post, i would like to know if the "invert" function in Photoshop is allowed to use?


Quick rule of thumb: If the effect is applied to every pixel in the image, it's usually legal. Therefore, sharpening, brightness, saturation, messing with the colors ... all legal. If you're picking a *part* of the image to change, it's almost always illegal.
06/05/2003 02:44:29 PM · #74
Jak,
- have you really nothing better to do than shut down forums? oh the power.
06/05/2003 03:10:30 PM · #75
Originally posted by tolyanchik:

I have a feeling that they meant an existing magazine not a fictitious one. I also have an issue with copyright rules, therefore not to violate any I am skipping this challenge. Cheers!


I cannot image ANY copyright issues that would stop someone submitting a picture and I'd sure like to hear why you think so. All we are doing is submitting a photograph -- our own copyrighted image -- (exactly the same as every other week) and giving it a title that matches the name of a magazine. What on earth could be an issue with that?

Message edited by author 2003-06-05 15:12:04.
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