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01/18/2007 11:01:41 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
i'm super-fast! i beat you again! :P |
LOL. thanks! :D
Yeah I keep re-reading the rules between each post. That's it for me. |
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01/18/2007 11:02:07 PM · #52 |
... nevermind ...
Message edited by author 2007-01-18 23:02:53. |
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01/18/2007 11:05:01 PM · #53 |
I'm a little puzzled by this line:
"sharpen your entry using your editing software's "sharpen" or equivalent option. The use of customizable sharpening tools, such as Unsharp Mask, is not allowed."
If Unsharp Mask isn't allowed then what does it mean by "software's sharpen or equivalent option" which is allowed? Is smart sharpen ok? Sharpen edges?
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01/18/2007 11:06:36 PM · #54 |
I whole heartedly agree with this type of ruleset. I just wish cropping was allowed. Then again, I guess the point is compose your shot in camera. Like you were shooting with film and simply took the film to a photo store for processing. i.e. Do you want it black and white or color, glossy or matte, 4 X 6 or 8 x 10. Thats it.
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01/18/2007 11:07:26 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I'm a little puzzled by this line:
"sharpen your entry using your editing software's "sharpen" or equivalent option. The use of customizable sharpening tools, such as Unsharp Mask, is not allowed."
If Unsharp Mask isn't allowed then what does it mean by "software's sharpen or equivalent option" which is allowed? Is smart sharpen ok? |
no. you're stuck with the basic one-step "sharpen" option.
basically anything with a slider bar or customizable, quantifiable measurement is disallowed.
i'm not 100% about sharpen edges, but i would guess that's ok. that's a good discussion to have. |
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01/18/2007 11:08:38 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
I whole heartedly agree with this type of ruleset. I just wish cropping was allowed. Then again, I guess the point is compose your shot in camera. Like you were shooting with film and simply took the film to a photo store for processing. i.e. Do you want it black and white or color, glossy or matte, 4 X 6 or 8 x 10. Thats it. |
That's a good analogy. Someone once told me a story related to film processing.
Photographer: Please process with no colour correction
Photo Lab: No colour correction means no colour so we'll process them as B & W
Sorry, off topic.
No back to the scheduled thread.... |
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01/18/2007 11:10:55 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
i'm not 100% about sharpen edges, but i would guess that's ok. |
Nope. Just plain old Sharpen. That's it. Sharpen edges is pseudo-selective. That's how I read it anyway.
Any discussion about what you can get away with misses the point. You shoot, resize it to 640px, hit sharpen once and submit. That's it. The only real exception is a very basic B&W conversion.
Message edited by author 2007-01-18 23:13:49. |
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01/18/2007 11:16:47 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Citadel:
I whole heartedly agree with this type of ruleset. I just wish cropping was allowed. Then again, I guess the point is compose your shot in camera. Like you were shooting with film and simply took the film to a photo store for processing. i.e. Do you want it black and white or color, glossy or matte, 4 X 6 or 8 x 10. Thats it. |
That's a good analogy. |
4x6 would be a good analogy. The 8x10 is a cropped image though. |
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01/18/2007 11:17:17 PM · #59 |
This is one of the things I love about DPC. We can make the simple sooooo complicated.
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01/18/2007 11:18:06 PM · #60 |
Cool. I forgot plain old Sharpen still existed. I'm interested to see what's the first challenge that uses this ruleset. Me thinks it will favor landscapes.
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01/18/2007 11:26:42 PM · #61 |
We should have a Straight from the camera ruleset where you just upload the un resized original. using the GD library the site would automaticly resize to 640x480 or 480x640 or whatever the closest equivalent is, and youd have the option of which direction to rotate.
Kill all editing! |
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01/18/2007 11:28:21 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by rainmotorsports:
We should have a Straight from the camera ruleset where you just upload the un resized original. using the GD library the site would automaticly resize to 640x480 or 480x640 or whatever the closest equivalent is, and youd have the option of which direction to rotate.
Kill all editing! |
You mean kill all post editing. In-camera editing would still be allowed.
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01/18/2007 11:29:02 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by rainmotorsports:
We should have a Straight from the camera ruleset where you just upload the un resized original. using the GD library the site would automaticly resize to 640x480 or 480x640 or whatever the closest equivalent is, and youd have the option of which direction to rotate.
Kill all editing! |
Brutal :-)
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01/18/2007 11:31:30 PM · #64 |
if you think this is too complicated, just wait until we introduce the
Mattel Barbie Photo Designer Digital Camera ruleset! |
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01/18/2007 11:32:00 PM · #65 |
I think crayon would ribbon in that one.
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01/18/2007 11:33:12 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
This is still way too liberal a rule set. I advocate one that disallows the use of a camera (bury or burn the sensor, that sort of thing) -or better yet another set that prohibits publishing the entry altogether in a contest especially created for this. (should I or should I not follow up with a smiley?) |
I like Zeus' rules. ;) |
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01/18/2007 11:39:13 PM · #67 |
| I feel at least cropping should be allowed. All the other things are okey for me. With the current rules its just like straight from camera. |
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01/18/2007 11:44:28 PM · #68 |
Very nice ruleset with the exception of the continued and inexplicable indulgence of in-camera editing features.
Looking forward to the first challenge. |
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01/18/2007 11:46:39 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
With the current rules its just like straight from camera. |
That was the point. |
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01/18/2007 11:51:35 PM · #70 |
| Sounds like this method of editing should be called "STRAIGHT FROM THE CAMERA" in stead of "MINIMAL EDITING". Frankly, I have not joined DPC as a member and made it so much a part of my life, to not be able to use much of any editing. I joined DPC because I was impressed with the talent here and wanted to learn as much as I could from the various techniques of many people here. I don't plan to participate in any of these challenges nor will I waste time voting. Those with the best (and most expensive) cameras will probably win in most instances. |
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01/18/2007 11:52:36 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by dfstevenson:
Those with the best (and most expensive) cameras will probably win in most instances. |
A bold prediction. We shall see. |
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01/18/2007 11:56:02 PM · #72 |
I have a feeling  ursula is gonna bust some arse in this one.
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01/18/2007 11:56:45 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by muckpond:
i'm not 100% about sharpen edges, but i would guess that's ok. |
Nope. Just plain old Sharpen. That's it. Sharpen edges is pseudo-selective. That's how I read it anyway.
Any discussion about what you can get away with misses the point. You shoot, resize it to 640px, hit sharpen once and submit. That's it. The only real exception is a very basic B&W conversion. |
If the "spirit" of these rules is to minimize post-processing, then I'm surprised that any form of sharpening is allowed. I mean, if you're going to get all "purist", then why not do it all the way? Why allow any sharpening? |
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01/18/2007 11:57:30 PM · #74 |
| Flame me if you will, but it seems to me that those with advanced editing options in the camera will do best at this. Of course, we have to pick our shots carefully but minimal software editing, again as it seems to me, still allows camera editing. |
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01/18/2007 11:58:56 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by Keith Maniac:
If the "spirit" of these rules is to minimize post-processing, then I'm surprised that any form of sharpening is allowed. I mean, if you're going to get all "purist", then why not do it all the way? Why allow any sharpening? |
Because all photos lose sharpness when downsized.
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