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 09/13/2007 07:47:49 PM · #1
My brother in law recently had engagment pictures taken, after paying the photographer and waiting a few weeks, the photographer said they would not be able to have their pictures untill after the wedding, which is October 20th. The pictures were taken about 2 weeks ago which I believe that is plenty of time to prints. The photographer also said that the only picture would be sent to the local newspaper as an anoucement, He said that he would not release the pictures in any JPEG form becuase they are copyrighted and because the amount of prints that could be made from a JPEG he would not release the pictures to them. Does anyone know any laws that prohibit this or anyway to get the pictures faster besides me driving 8 hours to take them myself?
 09/13/2007 07:50:59 PM · #2
The photographer owns the copyright unless there was something in the contract that said otherwise. Also, the amount of time and when the pictures/prints will be provided is something that should also have been in the contract.
 09/13/2007 08:16:32 PM · #3
That does seem like an awefully long turn around, BUT, those are his photos, and he does own the copyright. I have not and will not ever turn over jpgs either, unless there is a lot more money exchanged. I dont blame him for that. Unless it is stipulated in the contract that they will get them sooner, I think that your outta luck.
 09/13/2007 08:38:06 PM · #4
What promise did the photographer make as to the availability of the images? What contract did your brother-in-law sign?

So far sounds to me like a breakdown in communication between the photographer and the client about what to expect.
 09/13/2007 09:48:07 PM · #5
Originally posted by _eug:
So far sounds to me like a breakdown in communication between the photographer and the client about what to expect.


i would think that it is totally realistic that a client would expect to have engagement photos BEFORE there wedding.
seams like a little more then a break down in communication.
lets hope they get there wedding photos before there 50th anniversary
09/13/2007 09:56:42 PM · #6
Originally posted by scwalsh:
Originally posted by _eug:
So far sounds to me like a breakdown in communication between the photographer and the client about what to expect.


i would think that it is totally realistic that a client would expect to have engagement photos BEFORE there wedding.
seams like a little more then a break down in communication.
lets hope they get there wedding photos before there 50th anniversary

Not if the photographer's usual workflow entails them sending ONE image of the brides choice to the paper. We have no idea what the photographer agreed to.

INSUFFICIENT DATA.
 09/14/2007 05:48:31 AM · #7
As _eug said, insufficient data.

The law is different in different areas as well.

Here in Australia, photographers normally automatically own the copyright to their work, but there are specific exceptions - if someone hires a professional photographer to take photos for them for a personal purpose (e.g. wedding photos), then the copyright to the images is automatically held by the client, not the photographer, even if the client forgets to pay - unless the client and photographer explicitly agree to the contrary. (If shooting film, the photographer still owns the negatives or transparencies though!)

I suspect this is a specific feature of the Copyright Act in Australia, but it may be worth checking whether similar rules apply in your brother-in-law's state or not.

(On the rare occasions where I shoot weddings for friends, I make sure our contract specifically identifies who owns the copyright and who gets what rights. Generally I would write the contract such that the friends retain the copyright, but grant me as photographer a perpetual non-exclusive license to use the images - so I could use them for personal purposes/portfolio/marketing in the unlikely case that I wanted to turn pro.)
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