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10/26/2008 05:27:53 AM · #76 |
| Nah, I think it's more of a discussion as part of a learning experience. "Street" can mean so many different things, and isn't something that's easily copy-able - moments exist for just that - a moment. I think the conversation is good from the bigger perspective, not from the perspective of scoring well in this particular challenge. I'm hoping it encourages more people to shoot a bit more "street" stuff. Selfish on my part, maybe! :-) I also think that while scoring well in this challenge, as with all challenges, is cool, that there is a lot more to be taken away than just a score. Tastes in this one will vary considerably, I think. |
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10/26/2008 06:31:02 AM · #77 |
... at any rate it seems that photos of people in front of billboards does really well ... unfortunately my entry is not one of those :p
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10/26/2008 07:01:42 AM · #78 |
Looking forward to this challenge. My first shot at street photography.
Message edited by author 2008-10-26 07:38:00.
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10/26/2008 07:06:14 AM · #79 |
Its raining. Typical UK, I had planned my trip out to a nice town nearby and now it rains.
Well im going to go for a drive anyway, I may just sit in Starbucks and drink coffee instead of taking pictures!! |
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10/26/2008 07:15:04 AM · #80 |
Originally posted by Starbanana:
Its raining. Typical UK, I had planned my trip out to a nice town nearby and now it rains.
Well im going to go for a drive anyway, I may just sit in Starbucks and drink coffee instead of taking pictures!! |
why? when rain is a great moment for shooting real strets. here is spring!!!!! now I come back from the lake, sun, lizards,butterfly,persons with summer apparel....... give me some days of rain :( I am in and I have some outtake also. |
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10/26/2008 07:32:24 AM · #81 |
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10/26/2008 07:33:08 AM · #82 |
Not trying to be a self-appointed cop ... but ... many are very testy about showing outtakes of a current competition in the competition chat thread before the competition is over and scored.
... just fyi
... edited to add ... even if they are NOTHING even CLOSE to your submission.
Message edited by author 2008-10-26 07:33:55.
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10/26/2008 07:42:52 AM · #83 |
Originally posted by Greetmir:
Not trying to be a self-appointed cop ... but ... many are very testy about showing outtakes of a current competition in the competition chat thread before the competition is over and scored.
... just fyi
... edited to add ... even if they are NOTHING even CLOSE to your submission. |
Point taken and post adjusted accordingly.
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10/26/2008 07:45:26 AM · #84 |
Originally posted by Greetmir:
Not trying to be a self-appointed cop ... but ... many are very testy about showing outtakes of a current competition in the competition chat thread before the competition is over and scored.
... just fyi
... edited to add ... even if they are NOTHING even CLOSE to your submission. |
Check the dates on my images...
Not exactly outtakes and perfectly valid to post in a discussion about Street Photography. We're having a very healthy conversation. I assume some people are learning something?
I generally don't enter Challenges (not for months, anyway) and I don't vote but I figured I'd give some thoughts.
Message edited by author 2008-10-26 08:07:58. |
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10/26/2008 07:53:08 AM · #85 |
Pawdrix ... Your post came as I was creating mine ... I was talking to Thingfish about his outtake on the current challenge ...
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10/26/2008 08:08:48 AM · #86 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Nah, I think it's more of a discussion as part of a learning experience. "Street" can mean so many different things, and isn't something that's easily copy-able - moments exist for just that - a moment. I think the conversation is good from the bigger perspective, not from the perspective of scoring well in this particular challenge. I'm hoping it encourages more people to shoot a bit more "street" stuff. Selfish on my part, maybe! :-) I also think that while scoring well in this challenge, as with all challenges, is cool, that there is a lot more to be taken away than just a score. Tastes in this one will vary considerably, I think. |
I agree with you about street being a strong topic for photography, and the different interpretations and styles, I notice in Street II that most of the top finishes came from big city slickers with massive billboards of good subject to work with, But in my little Hicksville there is only 50,000 population and we are still coming to terms with traffic lights, let alone good subject matter, people here seem to be fearful of a camera being directed at them, even from a distance, makes things hard for a creative shot.
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10/26/2008 08:48:59 AM · #87 |
Originally posted by BrianR:
I agree with you about street being a strong topic for photography, and the different interpretations and styles, I notice in Street II that most of the top finishes came from big city slickers with massive billboards of good subject to work with, |
People that were impressed with "Joe The Plumber" will really dig the Billboard images. That's not meant in any way to be a political statement but that type of image goes over well to people with a pedestrian knowledge of the genre. Do a little studying and you realize they're not such a big deal.
If people truly want to learn about SP and shoot the style they will visit all the sites, blogs..check out the greats...go to museums etc. They will also find that the Billboard images are plentiful and if you live in a big town those images are really easy to get. They seem clever but after you've taken your 10th Billboard shot or seen a few thousand posted on some blog you'll learn that they are about as poignant or as interesting as well... Joe The Plumber.
eta: I hope people don't copy what wins because that's not where the real good are in terms of the genre OR in terms of learning. Show some originality. It's not that hard. There are plenty of other images out there that will inspire and are within everyone's reach if they just look beyond the front page.
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10/26/2008 08:55:41 AM · #88 |
| It is hard to shoot strangers, especially with big honkin' cameras. I have a distinct advantage - no question. I'm small, I'm rather unnoticeable, I'm not young anymore, and I'm female. I'm definitely not threatening. When I do get "caught" (and I have a couple of fun outtakes while getting caught), I just smile. I rarely get yelled at and if I do, lately it's in German and I don't usually catch what they're saying, so I just smile and walk away. I'm pretty sure the good folks in Wiesbaden are used to me by now, too. I shoot there about once a week or so. And it's not a big city by any means - I even have shots of some of the same people and I haven't a clue who they are! :-) |
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10/26/2008 09:08:57 AM · #89 |
| I am male but always my wife is with me, hence we seems a normal couple of tourists that walking from naples :) and when you are a tourist (or seems a tourist) always no problem for photos. there is a second and sometimes positive effect of the big camera. often someone think that you are a true reporter and many persons like go on some newspaper (expecially some urban policeman that always are in front my camera when I want capture some architectural photos!!!!!!!) :) |
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10/26/2008 10:02:27 AM · #90 |
I was worried about rain cos of my camera mainly. And i (wrongly) thought there wouldnt be many people out!
I have some shots. I actually like a few! I got a few funny looks from people but mainly I blended into the tourist crowd. Well now I just have to decide which one to bring to the challenge...
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Yeah, you got it backwards there. Rain is a Godsend for Street Photography.
Bad weather gives you new and endless possibilities. In fact, after I finish my cup of coffee I may do a little rain dance myself. |
eta: I have just been browsing your profile and OMG there are some amazing shots in there!! This is my first street outing so I probably got more than a few things wrong apart from my expectations of a bad shoot due to the rain :D
Message edited by author 2008-10-26 10:09:34. |
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10/26/2008 10:06:49 AM · #91 |
I had no time to shoot this week for the challenge - very disappointed as I really wanted to enter. I guess I will be relegated to voting and commenting on all the shots....
Good luck folks - I can't wait to see what you all come up with |
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10/26/2008 10:10:12 AM · #92 |
Here is a link to my favorite photographer's website: //www.johnhartphotography.com/ He is my brother and I admire him for turning his avocation into his vocation. I'm generally a 'snapshooter' for the family albums, but enjoy this site for the learning opportunities. Anyway, John is a newspaper photographer in a small town and has some great 'street photographs', in my opinion. I think his personality- his ability to talk to and be friendly with strangers, has helped him get some of his better shots.
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10/26/2008 10:12:29 AM · #93 |
A strange portrait..... |
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10/26/2008 10:48:56 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
It is hard to shoot strangers, especially with big honkin' cameras. I have a distinct advantage - no question. I'm small, I'm rather unnoticeable, I'm not young anymore, and I'm female. I'm definitely not threatening. When I do get "caught" (and I have a couple of fun outtakes while getting caught), I just smile. I rarely get yelled at and if I do, lately it's in German and I don't usually catch what they're saying, so I just smile and walk away. I'm pretty sure the good folks in Wiesbaden are used to me by now, too. I shoot there about once a week or so. And it's not a big city by any means - I even have shots of some of the same people and I haven't a clue who they are! :-) |
This is why I love my point-and-shoot. It's small and I have a fairly large hand. I wrap the strap around my wrist and shoot almost everthing from the hip. I get a few strange passing looks sometimes -- that concerned me, until I discovered that I was getting them even without my camera... |
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10/26/2008 10:54:42 AM · #95 |
Originally posted by tph1:
Here is a link to my favorite photographer's website: //www.johnhartphotography.com/ He is my brother and I admire him for turning his avocation into his vocation. I'm generally a 'snapshooter' for the family albums, but enjoy this site for the learning opportunities. Anyway, John is a newspaper photographer in a small town and has some great 'street photographs', in my opinion. I think his personality- his ability to talk to and be friendly with strangers, has helped him get some of his better shots. |
You have a very talented Brother! |
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10/26/2008 10:56:10 AM · #96 |
| Tell your brother he has a very nice web site. For those that visit but don't check, he also does the music for it. Some very nice photographs! |
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10/26/2008 12:10:41 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Guys, I love all the encouragement, but I'll probably disappoint. I have a ton of shots. I have some I really like. I have no clue what to enter in this particular challenge, though.
Steve offers excellent advice - not just for this challenge (oh, the pressure!) but for shooting in general. Not just "street", but every day. A lot of what I shoot is just for me - to remember times, places; to just "see" through the camera.
I do promise that I'll try to stick in something at least marginally interesting. I have one or two that I looked at with an eye toward "DPC voting" but they didn't make the cut. :-)
On the plus side, I am quite flattered that some of you think this is my "thing" - that totally makes my day more than getting a good score in the challenge would, so thanks very much! (And if you check back in this thread, I posted a number of other folks - not all inclusive by any means - who do awesome "street" work. Check out their portfolios!) |
Oh, Melethia...I am in the same boat here with shots. I have narrowed it down as of Sunday morning, to 7 shots. SIGH I think that I am going to choose to enter what I like as a street shot because I can see meaning in it rather than trying to "guess" what will do well in here and what won't as I'm finding that a losing battle lately.
The bottom line here is that once I stopped fearing that someone would come up and hit me if they figured out I was snapping shots of everyone....I really and truly ENJOYED it! I have discovered that I actually really and truly enjoy street photograpy and portraits. Even if I am not considered "good" at it, I truly enjoy both forms. I guess I'm just a "people photographer" LOL At least I have gotten THAT much out of it thus far. And, I have enough shots that have meaning to me in order to do a photo-essay in another site now and my blog! So, if the scores are low (and I so hope not) on my entry....I can still say that I truly enjoyed it.
As for you....well, your work is really captivating so, I will look forward to whatever you decide to enter because I know that it will have meaning. Oh, the PRESSURE we are putting on you! *smile* |
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10/26/2008 12:22:05 PM · #98 |
| One question...I know that a lot of street photography is in B&W, but what about color shots? Are they equally valued or is it better to stick to B&W for these? Just a general/personal opinion here is being asked for as there are a couple of shots I've taken that I feel would have more impact if in color. |
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10/26/2008 12:24:52 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by Starbanana:
I was worried about rain cos of my camera mainly. And i (wrongly) thought there wouldnt be many people out!
I have some shots. I actually like a few! I got a few funny looks from people but mainly I blended into the tourist crowd. Well now I just have to decide which one to bring to the challenge...
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Yeah, you got it backwards there. Rain is a Godsend for Street Photography.
Bad weather gives you new and endless possibilities. In fact, after I finish my cup of coffee I may do a little rain dance myself. |
eta: I have just been browsing your profile and OMG there are some amazing shots in there!! This is my first street outing so I probably got more than a few things wrong apart from my expectations of a bad shoot due to the rain :D |
I know what that feels like. It rained off and on while I was out shooting yesterday and the day before *smile*. I was worried about my camera and it's hard to hold onto an umbrella and shoot at the same time...lots of blurred shots. My hat is off to some of the rain shots that I've seen! It DOES add an extra dimension and strangely enough, hurrying through rain takes the attention off of everything else so, subjects often don't notice the camera as much as they would on a sunny day. Heads are usually down LOL. |
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10/26/2008 12:30:38 PM · #100 |
Originally posted by PhotoInterest:
One question...I know that a lot of street photography is in B&W, but what about color shots? Are they equally valued or is it better to stick to B&W for these? Just a general/personal opinion here is being asked for as there are a couple of shots I've taken that I feel would have more impact if in color. |
I had the same problem... I noticed that the high scoring pics were pretty much all in Black and White... The best suggection I can make is to convert yours to Black and White and put the colour one and black and white one side bny side on your monitor and check which one looks best... but remember, when you convert to black and white, a few simple colour mixing adjustments can make a HUGE difference... in CS2, convert to B&W and adjust the colours, or in CS3, add a Black and White Smart layer... smart layers are cool because you can always tweek them later on... |
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