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01/24/2004 05:45:13 PM · #1 |
Can someone explain to me what the deal is with SLR cameras? I understand the physics and electronics of it... but somehow don't see how that translates into a better camera. Is there something I'm overlooking? |
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01/24/2004 05:51:52 PM · #2 |
well first of all... the best part about the SLR is that you can switch lenses, although for many hand held cameras (such as the coolpix you have) there are lenses you can add on to for a wider angle or more zoom, they do not have the same optics as the lenses that for instance I use with my D1H. just the regular lens on your coolpix is not as high of quality as the most basic lens for the slr. Being able to switch lenses, and having different f-stops allows you quite a bit more control over your camera, and there are a lot of things that you can do with an slr that are not easily done, and may not be possible with a point and shoot.
I'm sure there is someone on here who can explain all of this much better then I can, but I'm just saying that the main thing that makes the SLR better is the possibility to exchange lenses. Maybe someone else can chip in... but this is what I am thinking right now.
Hope this helps!
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01/24/2004 05:54:06 PM · #3 |
yeah, the lenses, you will get into a new world of optics for your camera
also the almost-non-shutterspeed latencie
and a lot of more things...
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01/24/2004 05:54:48 PM · #4 |
performance.. faster focus lock on the subject.
another is the ability to change lenses, glass quality should produce amazing image quality. |
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01/24/2004 05:59:27 PM · #5 |
First and foremost for me the attraction is the larger more noise free sensors on the SLRs. Also the ability to see what you are going to get through the viewfinder (not LCD) without the parallax error is nice. To a lesser extent the ability to use specialized lenses is also attractive as others have said. Another selling point for me is the size. The larger physical size of a DSLR is just plain easier to control. |
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01/24/2004 06:12:40 PM · #6 |
I think the main advantage of the SLR type viewfinder is that you can see a much brighter version of what your sensor (or film) sees, and records, than with a look-thru type optical vf or the electronic vf as found on most digicams. The other differences between SLRs and non-SLRs have mainly to do with the SLRs being higher cost, higher quality cameras. Originally, it was so costly to have SLR vf that it was just not put onto low end cameras. The marketing plans of the companies that make SLRs and the interchangeable lens (Canon, Nikon & Sigma are the big three) are partly responsible for the big divide too. Eventually EVF will improve to the point that SLR will become obsolete for digitals. And someone will market an EVF digicam that will accept interchangeable lenses. It has been predicted to be in 2004, but don't hold your breath. That day can't come too soon for me.
Message edited by author 2004-01-24 18:14:00. |
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01/24/2004 06:14:48 PM · #7 |
if you were well aquantined with a 35mm film slr at any point, nothing else seems right, but dSLR...
very versitile in all respects. the money you put into lenses isn't wasted when new better cameras come out - they will most likely still work for thext 10 years on any new camera from the same manufacturer.
if that makes sense...
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01/24/2004 06:15:03 PM · #8 |
Through the lens optical viewfinder.
Focus speed.
Shutter delay shorter.
12-bit CCD's en CMOS with 12/16bit output in RAW.
Better DOF control because of bigger sensor.
Smoother bokeh with the right lenses (8 blade vs 5 blade vs x-blade)
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01/24/2004 06:20:07 PM · #9 |
canon is due to come out with new cams as soon as possibly february this year...
EFS...
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01/24/2004 06:31:53 PM · #10 |
I would like to see an affordable 40-70 F4 L to fill the gap between the 17-40 and 70-200 F4 L's. :)
But I still think a 50 prime will do just fine for less money.
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01/24/2004 07:29:40 PM · #11 |
Well whats's the deal with Slr? it depends what you comparing slr with? i mean PS camera, digital camera or medium format, deal changes each time depeding with what camera we are comparing |
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01/24/2004 08:56:38 PM · #12 |
Another important aspect of DSLR's is the wider control over depth of field from everything being in focus to only selective parts of the image being in focus. This is due to the larger sensors that are in DSLR's. This is an aspect that I really miss with my F707 and creating a shallow DOF in PS, while still effective, is not the same thing.
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01/24/2004 09:00:16 PM · #13 |
i can't afford any L's...
i would like to see an affrodable L ;}
Originally posted by : I would like to see an affordable 40-70 F4 L to fill the gap between the 17-40 and 70-200 F4 L's. :)
But I still think a 50 prime will do just fine for less money.
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Message edited by author 2004-01-24 21:00:56. |
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01/24/2004 09:09:20 PM · #14 |
I really like the feel of an SLR. I also like that most camera accessories are made for SLRs. I really love the way my Digital Rebel feels in my hand with the Battery Grip.
There really is nothing like the sound of the mirror flipping up either. TTL is also the only way to go IMO.
I love my Digital Rebel. I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I'm perfectly happy with it. Even having a 10D or 1Ds wouldn't make me any happier. The Digital Rebel does everything I want in a camera.
I guess in the end it all comes down to what you are used to I guess.
Message edited by author 2004-01-24 21:09:58.
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01/24/2004 09:44:00 PM · #15 |
More control over your shots.
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01/24/2004 10:09:04 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by soup: i can't afford any L's...
i would like to see an affrodable L ;}
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The 70-200 F4L costs pretty close to the price of some of the non-L Canon lenses... $530 or so. |
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01/24/2004 10:19:25 PM · #17 |
well, that isnt so bad..., but more than i can afford right now.
macro lense will be my next purchase
got 75-300mm f4:5.6 for now...
Originally posted by Gordon: The 70-200 F4L costs pretty close to the price of some of the non-L Canon lenses... $530 or so. |
Message edited by author 2004-01-24 22:19:49. |
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01/24/2004 11:33:13 PM · #18 |
I'd love to have a dSLR, but I want it to be:
1) Small as possible
2) Have a LCD that swivels, so you can take shots from the ground, above, and when the camera is hanging at your neck (like an old twin lens reflex or my current G2)
3) Have a small lens with good range (I would not probably want a lot of lenses to carry around.
4) Quiet (no loud mirror slap)
The 300D comes close to what I want, except for #2. And I worry about the dust issues I hear when changing lenses (though I hear CMOS is better than a CCD sensor for not attracting dust).
So I've actually begun wondering if I would get more flexibility/range out of one of the fixed lens SLRs with 10x or better zoom? No dust worries either. But are the pictures as good? Other issues?
Of course, I'll never buy another camera that requires a bulky attachment like my G2 does to use a little filter!
Thanks in advance for anyone's thoughts on these issues!
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01/24/2004 11:40:25 PM · #19 |
Gotta Lotta Money? Buy an SLR. I had a Olympus 5050 and just got my Nikon D100 in a few days ago. I am taking pics that I never knew that I could take with the D100. Hopefully I will have some on soon. |
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01/24/2004 11:42:19 PM · #20 |
I always get a lot of unwanted attention when I use my bulky and odd looking wide angle or telephoto conversion lenses on my camera. It can interfere with the candidness of the moment. It is another reason why I want a true DSLR where the look of the camera is more customary and all the lenses just look like normal lenses, unless of course, you slap on an F2 300mm bazooka. Then that's another story.
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01/25/2004 12:32:54 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by nshapiro: I'd love to have a dSLR, but I want it to be:
1) Small as possible
2) Have a LCD that swivels, so you can take shots from the ground, above, and when the camera is hanging at your neck (like an old twin lens reflex or my current G2)
3) Have a small lens with good range (I would not probably want a lot of lenses to carry around.
4) Quiet (no loud mirror slap)
The 300D comes close to what I want, except for #2. And I worry about the dust issues I hear when changing lenses (though I hear CMOS is better than a CCD sensor for not attracting dust).
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A swivel Live LCD wouldnt be possible, thers an optical viewfinder, SLR, through a mirror, no electronics.
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01/25/2004 12:44:02 AM · #22 |
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01/25/2004 12:45:14 AM · #23 |
One main thing is No lag time. That is huge for action shots... By the way, Tamron makes a 28-75 2.8 throughout that is VERY sharp. and VERY reasonable. You can get it in the low to mid $300's. That is really a great way to get a fast lens at a low price. I bought one and love it. All my other lens' are Nikon glass, but I really do love this lens. |
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01/25/2004 12:58:11 AM · #24 |
i have an older tamron 24mm lense that produces well.
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01/25/2004 01:09:15 AM · #25 |
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A swivel Live LCD wouldnt be possible, thers an optical viewfinder, SLR, through a mirror, no electronics.[/quote]
I think it is quite possible but I doubt we will se it anytime soon. I think it could be done by initiating the mirror lockup making it function like the fixed lens designs allowing a live view through the rear LCD while composing and then switching back to the regular shooting mode when you take the photo. I have discussed this before with pros and they reluctantly thought it was quite possible but they seemed to have a real negative attitude about it as if this feature just doesn't belong on a "pro" camera.
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