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 04/14/2004 11:42:56 AM · #51
anyway...a flag is a flag, and could be interpreted as strength...But again a US flag picture with water droplets is too much for me !!!
 04/14/2004 11:49:12 AM · #52
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:


Yea you are probably right, but all of us that live anywhere else are continuously amazed abut the way americans obsess with theyrs. :)


Well they pledge to it every day in schools and stuff like that. I haven't seen anywhere else that ties the whole cultural identity up in the flag in the way its done here - never quite understood why.

It is a bit like the way the queen is treated in the UK. Instead of a figurehead they have a figureflag.
 04/14/2004 11:51:36 AM · #53

Since September 11th the US flag has become a banner, a logo for USA(TM), when I see a picture of a proud US marine, patrolling the streets of Baghdad, even a tired, dust covered soldier, I think "Strength", when I see the "Star and Stripes" I see George Bush, hiding behind the flag, telling us all that the "War is won".

I can't help but think the flag is over used, when people can buy USA Flag t-shirts/towels/mugs/underwear its no longer the symbol of a nation, its a commercial logo.
 04/14/2004 11:51:55 AM · #54
[quote]England conquered America, America never conquered England!
[/quote]

Ummm... OK. How about:
England colonized America and then the colonists kicked them back to England. England did not "conquer" America. If anything, you could say that Americans conquered British soldiers on American soil...
:) (all in good fun folks...)

Message edited by author 2004-04-14 11:53:53.
 04/14/2004 11:52:59 AM · #55
Originally posted by Gordon:

It is a bit like the way the queen is treated in the UK. Instead of a figurehead they have a figureflag.


But we don't pledge allegiance to the queen
 04/14/2004 11:57:17 AM · #56
Originally posted by cbonsall:
Originally posted by Gordon:

It is a bit like the way the queen is treated in the UK. Instead of a figurehead they have a figureflag.


But we don't pledge allegiance to the queen


God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us;
God save the Queen.
 04/14/2004 12:00:01 PM · #57
We also sing songs about Mickey mouse, it doesn't mean we pledge allegiance to him either.

Message edited by author 2004-04-14 12:00:44.
 04/14/2004 12:03:20 PM · #58
Do you ask Mickey Mouse to long reign over you?
 04/14/2004 12:06:36 PM · #59
Originally posted by kellian:
[quote]England conquered America, America never conquered England!


Ummm... OK. How about:
England colonized America and then the colonists kicked them back to England. England did not "conquer" America. If anything, you could say that Americans conquered British soldiers on American soil...
:) (all in good fun folks...) [/quote]

Occupied would be a better word than conquered then.

Long live her majesty (That correct spelling? never tried that word before) the Queen!
:)
 04/14/2004 12:08:41 PM · #60
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:


Yea you are probably right, but all of us that live anywhere else are continuously amazed abut the way americans obsess with theyrs. :)


Well they pledge to it every day in schools and stuff like that. I haven't seen anywhere else that ties the whole cultural identity up in the flag in the way its done here - never quite understood why.

It is a bit like the way the queen is treated in the UK. Instead of a figurehead they have a figureflag.


The queen isn't really in your face like the American flag can be (no offense meant to anyone).
 04/14/2004 12:17:20 PM · #61
Of course it is a symbol of power. You see pictures of American flags being burned everywhere as a protest against US hegemony and power. I think many have forgotten that the challenge also says, aside from strength, "or power." I am not a US national, but it is obvious to me that when I see an American flag, anywhere outside of the US, I see America and all its connotations. When I see flags all over the United States, especially in small towns, I am amazed how proud Americans are in displaying their power.
 04/14/2004 12:19:13 PM · #62
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:


Yea you are probably right, but all of us that live anywhere else are continuously amazed abut the way americans obsess with theyrs. :)


Well they pledge to it every day in schools and stuff like that. I haven't seen anywhere else that ties the whole cultural identity up in the flag in the way its done here - never quite understood why.

It is a bit like the way the queen is treated in the UK. Instead of a figurehead they have a figureflag.


The queen isn't really in your face like the American flag can be (no offense meant to anyone).


Plus the queen is a person that talks, cries, loughs, walks, farts, and does all kind of new tricks everyday, unlike a flag wich is just a flag anyway you look at it, must be boreing.. :))
 04/14/2004 12:20:12 PM · #63
And all of this has to do what with photography?? Think of all the comments that could have been made on entries by now.



Message edited by author 2004-04-14 12:21:26.
 04/14/2004 12:22:06 PM · #64
Originally posted by LtHousLady:
And all of this has to do what with photography?? Think of all the comments that could have been made on entries by now.


But it's more fun getting everyone's dander up in the forums than just one person's dander up with a comment. ;-)
 04/14/2004 12:26:01 PM · #65
I love photography but I would hate it if it would be all I whas suposed to discuss all day. Cmon can't we have a bit of a fun discussion on something elese?

Edit1: Besides it has to do because a flag is a flag while art and photography is something else, atleast that's what some of us had stated here.

Edit2: If a flag is seen like John Setzler has seen it in his "Liberty and Freedom" or something like that where there is some other issue interesting for the eye other than the flag itself, that is one thing but just a flag by simply being a flag menas no art and no photography to me, maybe photojournalism, or magazine or postcard photo but nothing artistic.

Message edited by author 2004-04-14 12:32:14.
 04/14/2004 12:34:36 PM · #66
Whenever someone start bashing certain photos or ideas during the voting is going on,Administrators should lock the thread and warn the creator!
Complain after the challenge is over(like me) and get blasted for "always comlaining after the challenge is over" ! :-)
 04/14/2004 12:42:49 PM · #67
So it whas ok to pick up on old wheels here during the "wheels" challenge voting but is certainly not ok to pick up on the US flag. That's really something. That thread is still in the "current challenge" while this is in the "rant", and yes, I did had an old wheel that may have suffered because of that thread.

Message edited by author 2004-04-14 12:44:51.
 04/14/2004 01:28:43 PM · #68
And to think, the guy with the towel draped over him could have used a U.S. flag instead.
 04/14/2004 01:37:56 PM · #69
Originally posted by orussell:
And to think, the guy with the towel draped over him could have used a U.S. flag instead.


hahahaha
 04/14/2004 01:42:49 PM · #70
the sad thing is that this rant wouldn't be here if the flags were japan and canada instead of the US. no one would care. people would just vote and move on.
 04/14/2004 01:53:33 PM · #71
Originally posted by nborton:
the sad thing is that this rant wouldn't be here if the flags were japan and canada instead of the US. no one would care. people would just vote and move on.


I guess a lot of the world perceive the U.S. as bullies looking out for their own interests in this new age we live in. I don't really like this generalization because I believe most American aren't as pompous and arrogant as their president and his administration.
 04/14/2004 02:05:37 PM · #72
Originally posted by Trinch:
I think we can all see the difference between a leader being voted out by his people and a leader being forcefully taken out by invading forces.

Originally posted by Gordon:
End results are remarkably similar.


Remarkably similiar only if you forget about the people who died fighting those wars.
04/14/2004 02:12:39 PM · #73
Originally posted by orussell:
Originally posted by nborton:
the sad thing is that this rant wouldn't be here if the flags were japan and canada instead of the US. no one would care. people would just vote and move on.


I guess a lot of the world perceive the U.S. as bullies looking out for their own interests in this new age we live in. I don't really like this generalization because I believe most American aren't as pompous and arrogant as their president and his administration.


You are right especially because America is a nations of 100's of nations, but it's stuff like "americans are the only ones" and "our flag is the best" that has effect on some of theyr youth's education. Belive it or not I met a few over the internet and when I said i'm from Romania they first asked me in which state is it, then when I said it's in europe they asked in wich state is that... and that not only once or twice. I belive that's how you grow good nationalists but certainly not a global geting along and cultures understanding and respecting eachother and eventualy a global peace IMHO.
 04/14/2004 02:30:29 PM · #74
The challenge was ''Photograph your representation of strength or power''

That's 'your representation' so whatever people think represents strength or power is fine with me - be it a flag,cat,dog,horse,flower etc. - a tv represents power to me, a credit card represents power, just wish I had thought of one of those before the challenge finished!


04/14/2004 02:53:16 PM · #75
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Don't get me wrong I have nothing against americans or America I admire them, but the idea that's put in the amrican's minds like "we are the strongest and the only ones and our flag is the most powerful" is something in my opinion that can easily turn into something aggresive. I think americans should be more open to other nations and cultures that are older and probably whiser, maybe we will then be one step closer to a global peace. But that's just what I think and that's why I whas expressing this curiosity.


As an American I do not feel that "we are the only ones" or that "our flag is most powerful". I also believe that America is very ethnically diverse.
I did use the flag in my photo. To me it does represent strengh. Not the strength of the government, but of our diverse people.
I am not so gullable as to believe that my nation is perfect. But as a citizen of it, it is my responsibility to support it, show pride in being part of it, and to strive to change what is wrong with. As I would expect each of you to do of your country.

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