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03/01/2025 01:07:50 PM · #1 |
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03/01/2025 01:17:17 PM · #2 |
| I wish we didn't have to ... :-( |
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03/01/2025 01:25:25 PM · #3 |
Who said this:
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time—when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. " |
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03/01/2025 01:29:40 PM · #4 |
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03/01/2025 01:32:33 PM · #5 |
And what about this one:
“To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle.” |
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03/01/2025 02:03:17 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
And what about this one:
“To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle.” |
I'll have to add that to my collection ... :-)
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03/01/2025 02:23:07 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Who said this:
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time—when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. " |
That'd be Carl Sagan.
Regarding our president, when DJT and the Veep ambushed Zelinsky yesterday All hope that things might turn out alright went out the window. It couldn't be more obvious that we're being steered into the Russian orbit and that alignment with the Soviets is what Trump wants... |
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03/01/2025 04:13:17 PM · #8 |
Trump is okay for a reality tv con man. What concerns me is that people voted for him, even after a 4 year demonstration of what a terrible president he is. I think it's because there is an entire misinformation industry.
The first term was an attempt at dictatorship. I think this term is more about setting up a plutocracy.
The only hopeful thing for me is that Republicans in general are so bad at governing that when they get control of executive and legislative branches they tend to lose the next election.
But if voters keep giving Republicans chances to dismantle our democracy, they might eventually do it.
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03/01/2025 04:43:58 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
The only hopeful thing for me is that Republicans in general are so bad at governing that when they get control of executive and legislative branches they tend to lose the next election.
But if voters keep giving Republicans chances to dismantle our democracy, they might eventually do it. |
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03/01/2025 06:53:25 PM · #10 |
It makes me sick watching the news. Jesse was fired 1.5 months away from his one year anniversary. They're claiming all probationary employees are substandard, because if it was a planned workforce reduction, you'd have to pay severance. A government that so blatantly commits fraud against its own employees...
But the crap with Ukraine, that's playing with people's lives. That's just on-beyond sick.
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03/01/2025 08:01:45 PM · #11 |
| What I find fascinating is how thoroughly he has deluded this so-called "Christian nation" ... if you take any given situation and honestly assess "what would Jesus do?" I think it highly likely that you could expect Trump to do the opposite ... I'm not suggesting he's THE anti-Christ, but he sure checks all the boxes on the job description ... |
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03/02/2025 12:52:28 AM · #12 |
| Thanks for giving me some hope but unless someone stops him very soon a lot of people will die. I have a very strong fear that Putin will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. |
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03/02/2025 09:59:23 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Thanks for giving me some hope but unless someone stops him very soon a lot of people will die. I have a very strong fear that Putin will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. |
How, exactly, have you been given "hope" based on the responses in this thread? ... and, on what do you base your "strong fear" for the use of nuclear weapons. Would love to hear some actual thoughts, rather than baiting. Thanks. |
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03/02/2025 12:37:20 PM · #14 |
1. They could understand my concern.
2. If they don't get Zelensky to resign or manage to assassinate him, what else is there? US soldiers fighting for Putin? Nuclear option seems to be a better solution, it does not involve American soldiers.
Message edited by author 2025-03-02 12:39:55. |
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03/02/2025 12:43:22 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
1. They could understand my concern. |
I didn't see any "concern" on your part, only "I'm curious".
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
2. If they don't get Zelensky to resign or manage to assassinate him, what else is there? US soldiers fighting for Putin? Nuclear option seems to be a better solution, it does not involve American soldiers. |
If the US quits providing military support, either NATO or European Allies step up to a larger degree, or Ukraine loses more ground to Russia, and eventually all of Ukraine. Russia would be stupid to nuke Ukraine at this point and spoil what will eventually be there's, not to mention that nukes could be enough to really engage those on the sidelines and kick Russia's ass. |
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03/02/2025 12:47:23 PM · #16 |
| I arrest my case, thanks for those who are still capable of thinking. |
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03/02/2025 01:20:22 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
I arrest my case … |
LOL |
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03/02/2025 01:24:13 PM · #18 |
| I hope someone speaks up. |
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03/02/2025 04:46:41 PM · #19 |
I didn't write this, but I think it makes sense.
I won't debate it... just giving you something to think about:
And... I'll delete it off of my portfolio in a bit, since it takes up a lot of my allotted space.
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03/02/2025 05:17:53 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
I didn't write this, but I think it makes sense.
I won't debate it... just giving you something to think about:
And... I'll delete it off of my portfolio in a bit, since it takes up a lot of my allotted space. |
the genius of trump is that for 9 years he's gotten people to craft excuses for every impetuous egotistical thing he has ever done. |
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03/02/2025 07:03:58 PM · #21 |
THIS ---> Originally posted by posthumous:
the genius of trump is that for 9 years he's gotten people to craft excuses for every impetuous egotistical thing he has ever done. |
Message edited by author 2025-03-02 19:04:35. |
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03/02/2025 08:47:28 PM · #22 |
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03/02/2025 09:03:25 PM · #23 |
I am not an American but as America is making a big impact on the world today I have an opinion about Trump too. I think he is going to model America on Putin's Russia - create an imperialistic dictatorship. Democracy is dead and unfortunately it is happening around the world.
I grew up in a communist regime where everyone was afraid of their own shadow, those who spoke up woke up in Siberia, if they were lucky enough to wake up at all. The elections were a joke, there were no other candidates than those from communist party and they always won 99% of the votes.
Freedom of speech? Not if you are threatened with killing of you and your family. This is already happening in America.
I used to be an optimist, now I am a pessimist. I cannot see how and when the damage will be undone.
Who remembers what pretext Hitler used when he invaded Poland in 1939? |
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03/04/2025 12:12:01 AM · #24 |
I guess I will continue my rumblings alone as I am very concerned about what is happening and how it happened. I read a lot about why a person like Trump could become an American president. This is what I found:
1. personality cult - the followers can only see good things in their leader, are blind to any criminal acts committed by him, of any wrongdoing
2. misinformation - a new word for propaganda, without any doubt with a big support from Putin's Russia to which your president is now very grateful and wants to give it all of Ukraine, I understand this is called transactional politics
3. career politicians - they will work for anyone who can advance their greed for power and money
4. Musk - the anti Robin Hood
5. fear - crushing any opposition
6. Musk again - enormous money thrown into gaining and keeping power
The only hope now is that the Americans will wake up when they realize that all those promises of better economic times won't happen. But by then it might be too late to change anything :(
I have never imagined that in my lifetime US will become a Plutocratic Autocracy.
Message edited by author 2025-03-05 10:35:16. |
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03/04/2025 10:30:16 AM · #25 |
| Margaret, #1 goes both ways. If someone doesn't like Trump, they see everything he does as something nefarious. |
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