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08/17/2004 11:14:10 PM · #1
This could be the new 20D that all the rumors are about!

//www.photo.co.nz/featured/cameras/canon_20d/lores_20d_angle.jpg

//www.photo.co.nz/featured/cameras/canon_20d/lores_20d_back2.jpg

Message edited by author 2004-08-17 23:14:57.
08/17/2004 11:16:13 PM · #2
Hmmm, looks a lot like the 10d. Interesting to see an EF-S lens on it.
08/17/2004 11:22:53 PM · #3
Cool. The flash is up higher than the 10D, too.
08/17/2004 11:25:57 PM · #4
Just a stupid question, why do any of you 10D owners care about an on camera flash? I was kinda hoping for a complete removal of the on-board flash. I mean, if you're spending that much on a body only, what's $200-300 more for a decent external flash?
08/17/2004 11:29:26 PM · #5
I have not one used the on camera flash! And the 550 is about 400 bux, but worth every penny!
08/17/2004 11:31:46 PM · #6
Originally posted by bledford:

Just a stupid question, why do any of you 10D owners care about an on camera flash? I was kinda hoping for a complete removal of the on-board flash. I mean, if you're spending that much on a body only, what's $200-300 more for a decent external flash?


I was just noting the difference. I almost never use flash. I'm still fairly new to the whole SLR thing so I haven't invested in any external flashes. Working on learning other aspects of the camera first. Besides, I have other things on my wishlist. :-)

Edit: Noted the difference because I've heard others complain the flash is low.

Message edited by author 2004-08-17 23:33:46.
08/17/2004 11:31:56 PM · #7
Originally posted by bledford:

Just a stupid question, why do any of you 10D owners care about an on camera flash? I was kinda hoping for a complete removal of the on-board flash. I mean, if you're spending that much on a body only, what's $200-300 more for a decent external flash?


I agree, that little POS excuse for a flash would be better off gone altogether. I have used it exactly once, saw how crappy the results were and never have used it again.
08/17/2004 11:34:49 PM · #8
It does look VERY close to my 10 d
Ya sure that they didnt just change the # on the pic??
08/17/2004 11:35:20 PM · #9
I;ve never used the on camera flash since i have a 550! However, I wouldn't sell my 10D for this, seems like a upgraded 300D not an upgraded 10D
08/17/2004 11:37:04 PM · #10
Originally posted by parrothead:

It does look VERY close to my 10 d
Ya sure that they didnt just change the # on the pic??


No one knows for sure but this is the most convincing pic i've seen. The back pic shows the most changes.
08/17/2004 11:39:08 PM · #11
now that I look at it closer, I guess its a bit different, But I LOVE MY 10D!!!!!!

08/17/2004 11:44:16 PM · #12
Originally posted by bledford:

Just a stupid question, why do any of you 10D owners care about an on camera flash? I was kinda hoping for a complete removal of the on-board flash. I mean, if you're spending that much on a body only, what's $200-300 more for a decent external flash?


It's a very nice convenience to have on the camera when you want to shoot a flash shot. I don't know about every other 10D owner, but I shoot a lot of simple snapshots and that flash is an extreme convenience and I would hate to see it go.
08/17/2004 11:56:14 PM · #13
While the oncamera flash is certainly not as versatile as the 550 flash which I just bought, I have learned to use it. You can adjust the brightness of the flash on the camera to add just a slight fill to a flash that is usually too much for the kind of pictures I am trying to do. I have to make similar adjustments to the settings with my 550 flash, but I only bought it a short while ago and so I am still learning to use it.
08/18/2004 12:02:57 AM · #14
PS-ed 20D???????????

after some snooping
08/18/2004 12:11:26 AM · #15
Originally posted by bledford:

Just a stupid question, why do any of you 10D owners care about an on camera flash? I was kinda hoping for a complete removal of the on-board flash. I mean, if you're spending that much on a body only, what's $200-300 more for a decent external flash?


The flash isn't just for low light situations, I find the on-camera flash even more useful in bright daylight. It's great for fill lighting in backlit situations and it's great for adding that extra sparkle to a subject's eyes. That includes wildlife photography where adding that extra catch light to the eyes can really improve the photo.

T
08/18/2004 01:30:13 AM · #16
Here's waiting for a EOS-3D.
08/18/2004 01:38:09 AM · #17
Ignorong any discussion of the 20D in particular ....

I very very seldom use the built in flash, but would absolutely hate to see it go.

Sometimes I do not want to lug additional equipment about, maybe if I am just out an about with friends, at a party maybe. I just want a small lens on the camera and slip it into the smallest carry case I can fir it in, a small snoop (snoot, whatever) bag. In these instances, typically for snapshots, I would not want to have to ahve a larger bag for the external flash, or have to attach it when I go to use it, and then oops, no longer fits in the bag again.

I think the built in flash has it's place for snapshots at the very least.
08/18/2004 02:26:45 AM · #18
the 20D it REAL i tell you!!
//www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/genhtml_photo/photokit_EOS20D.dcr.html
08/18/2004 02:28:44 AM · #19
Whats the spec's ... does anyone know yet ...?
08/18/2004 02:32:07 AM · #20
Did anyone else notice that EFS 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM??

I wonder will it be a kit lens? (oops. here i am... starting rumours...)

EDIT: And is that a joystick on the back, above the rear wheel?

Message edited by author 2004-08-18 02:33:25.
08/18/2004 02:37:52 AM · #21
I was just going through the Canon website and in the product search they are showing an EOS D2000. Did they have that before? I've never even heard of it.

June
08/18/2004 02:38:28 AM · #22
From another photoweb site;

EOS-20D
8.2 MegaPixels
DIGIC II
1:1.6x Crop
9 Point focusing
1/8000s Max Shutter speed
5fps Continuous speed
25 frame buffer
EF-s support
E-TTL II support
0.2sec startup time
50g lighter than 10D (which might mean a plastic body but I don't think so...)

Price US$1600 RRP
(Street price should be closer to 1300 they say)

August 20 - Announcement
September 20 - On Sale

Also 2 Lenses will be announced at launch of 20D
EF-s 10-22mm /f 3.5-4.5
EF-s 17-85mm /f 4-5.6 IS (Will be sold with 20D also like the 300D)
08/18/2004 03:36:20 AM · #23
Originally posted by chiqui74:

I was just going through the Canon website and in the product search they are showing an EOS D2000. Did they have that before? I've never even heard of it.

June


It was one of the first dSLR's from Canon. Very expensive.
08/18/2004 03:56:17 AM · #24
They hve also announced the G6 as well. That is prolly going to interest the non-slr crew.

//www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/genhtml_photo/photokit_PowerShotG6.html

Message edited by author 2004-08-18 03:57:56.
08/18/2004 06:01:58 AM · #25
Well, the 20D is nice and all, but the 10-22mm lens is more interesting, IMHO. It is very clever little lens, both technically and market-wise. It is an EF-S lens, so you have to get a whole new camera for it, if you don't own the 300D. I would like to know its price and performance. 16-35mm eq. focus length, it would almost be worth it to get a 300D just to use it. (Yeah, and I have a money growin tree in my yard!)
J.
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