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07/02/2010 06:58:40 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Do we email our mentors with these shots or how is this working? |
Put the discussion in the comments of the image. That way everyone can read an contribute if they like, but it keeps the main thread reasonably easy to read.
I left some questions on your original. |
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07/02/2010 07:02:59 PM · #52 |
I keep crashing people's comments. Sorry. I'm bored. My entire family is at camp (husband included), and I don't want to vote on the free study quite yet. It's too depressing. :)
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07/02/2010 07:16:40 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by PGerst:
No one has asked me.... :( Guess I can't blame them.
I'm available though.... |
A lot of people have not checked in yet. Either that, or they all want  Bear_Music. |
Meanwhile, Bear_Music is losing track of everything, largely because he's just realized he has less than 3 weeks before he leaves for the Caribbean for his bare-boat charter with Yak and Penny and Shortstuff.
Bear_Music hopes his putative Mentees will PM him when he is needed, to call his attention back to business.
R.
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07/02/2010 07:32:13 PM · #54 |
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07/02/2010 08:20:23 PM · #55 |
House to yourself and you are bored!?
Sounds to me like Wendy is planning a GtG at her house!
Originally posted by vawendy:
I keep crashing people's comments. Sorry. I'm bored. My entire family is at camp (husband included), and I don't want to vote on the free study quite yet. It's
too depressing. :) |
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07/02/2010 08:29:01 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by PGerst:
House to yourself and you are bored!?
Sounds to me like Wendy is planning a GtG at her house!
Originally posted by vawendy:
I keep crashing people's comments. Sorry. I'm bored. My entire family is at camp (husband included), and I don't want to vote on the free study quite yet. It's
too depressing. :) |
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Hahah! unless it's tonight, you're too late. Everyone comes home tomorrow. (finally!! It's way too quiet here!)
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07/02/2010 09:41:03 PM · #57 |
This is where I started. Looking for a way to add interest to this, I suddenly thought of
this. And then, I tried this.
I'm still laughing. This tickles my funnybone.
[eta] Not challenge-legal, true. I wish!
Message edited by author 2010-07-02 21:44:38. |
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07/02/2010 10:07:24 PM · #58 |
Yeah, but its still doable! That would make an awesome entry for chaos, and you could shoot it using legal techniques.
Originally posted by pixelpig:
I'm still laughing. This tickles my funnybone.
[eta] Not challenge-legal, true. I wish! |
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07/02/2010 10:43:42 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by PGerst:
Yeah, but its still doable! That would make an awesome entry for chaos, and you could shoot it using legal techniques.
Originally posted by pixelpig:
I'm still laughing. This tickles my funnybone.
[eta] Not challenge-legal, true. I wish! |
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Inquiring minds want to know --- HOW? This is sooo far away from Basic Editing that they're not even in parallel universes!
Message edited by author 2010-07-02 22:46:15. |
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07/03/2010 12:02:46 AM · #60 |
Do exactly what you did to get the effect (not sure what you did). Then double expose your eye with a flash (same frame). Wear a black hood so you eye shows and rest of your face blends in with the blackness.
Alternatively, and I am pretty sure this is legal, you could have a print out of your eye from another photo you took on the background.
The first way is technically more challenging and fun. :)
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Inquiring minds want to know --- HOW? This is sooo far away from Basic Editing that they're not even in parallel universes! |
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07/03/2010 01:51:59 AM · #61 |
May I make a suggestion/recommendation to everyone who is posting photos? Very helpful if you include the shutter speed and aperture settings. As I think this is not just meant to be about how you can process your images better, but how you can improve the overall quality of the image, it really helps a lot if you could include that info. (at least for me it does).
ETA. I know some have the info, but this was just a reminder for everyone.
Message edited by author 2010-07-03 03:27:50. |
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07/03/2010 04:15:28 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by PGerst:
Do exactly what you did to get the effect (not sure what you did). Then double expose your eye with a flash (same frame). Wear a black hood so you eye shows and rest of your face blends in with the blackness.
Alternatively, and I am pretty sure this is legal, you could have a print out of your eye from another photo you took on the background.
The first way is technically more challenging and fun. :)
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Inquiring minds want to know --- HOW? This is sooo far away from Basic Editing that they're not even in parallel universes! |
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The flash method would be legal, but I don't think a photo would be -- I think it would violate the existing art rule because it's not obvious that it's existing art.
really, really fun idea!!
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07/03/2010 07:53:14 AM · #63 |
From the Basic rule set:
You MAY:
include images that are clearly recognizable as existing artwork when photographing your entry. Images that could be mistaken for real objects in the scene may also be included, but must not be so prominent that voters are basically judging a photo of a photo. |
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07/03/2010 08:27:32 AM · #64 |
Thanks for the ideas. All I need now is a glass eye, or some other likely object to pose with the fork when I do the motion blur. I'm pretty sure that would never in a million years have occurred to me on my own. I will try that today & post the result if I get anything good. Collaboration can produce the most amazing things--thanks again!
[eta] I will go back to make sure the capture info is posted with the shot & correct as many as I can that don't have any info. Sorry!
Message edited by author 2010-07-03 08:28:29. |
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07/03/2010 09:18:06 AM · #65 |
In PM's with a couple of the participants, I mentioned that one of the turning points for me was when I started seeing the light as much as I saw the subject. They were not sure what I meant, and I realized this may be a large part of the issue for a lot of folks.
I'm merely a newb when it comes to artificial lighting, but I think I have gotten better at recognizing when the natural light is good. For instance, I had originally been planning on going out shooting for the street portrait challenge on Saturday, but on the way home from work Thursday, I noticed there were a lot of broken up, but light clouds. This created a strong but diffuse light, and a lot of interest for those shots that had some sky in them. Ellen and I went out that evening, because we knew we had good conditions then, and might or might not on Saturday.
Morning and evening are generally considered the best time to shoot because the sunlight is coming at an angle which enhances textures, it is diffuse from having to cut through more atmosphere, and it gives a warm glow to things. Harsh midday sun is direct and causes overly bright highlights and too dark shadows. If I have no choice but to shoot in midday sun, I try to avoid wide views and concentrate on closer shots. Overcast days are actually better for taking midday photos, but I try to keep the flat gray sky out of the shot.
This was evening sun, an hour or two before dusk. the sun was to the right, so it got in under the overhang and illuminated this scene with a warm diffuse, and flattering light. If it had been taken midday, there would likely be blown highlights on the right and/or too-dark shadows looking into in the shed.
This was shot about 11 am with the sun high in the sky. You can see how harsh shadows are cast down from her hat and overall the direction of the light does not help the scene. I also had to do some selective editing to bring out the girl's face from the shadows.
This shot of  Bergiekat and Kawesttex was shot midday, but on an overcast day. The light wraps around them better, showing details and not creating harsh shadows. (Not one of my best challenge entries for other reasons, but it illustrates the light well.)
Anyone else have input on "seeing the light"?
Message edited by author 2010-07-03 09:20:04. |
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07/03/2010 09:34:48 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Anyone else have input on "seeing the light"? |
So I am not a mentor but wanted to jump in on that. Light and Perspective are the best things I have studied about and learned. You can get away with poor composure sometimes but you can't really fix bad light. I pay attention to light almost all the time anymore and even when I don't have my camera. I also notice in know when I look at other photos and think about how different light would help or hurt it.
Great advice here Thank You. |
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07/03/2010 10:07:33 AM · #67 |
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07/03/2010 10:18:58 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Anyone else have input on "seeing the light"? |
If you think about where the word photograph comes from, derived from Greek word for light phos, and graphia Greek for drawing, it makes some sense that light is one of the most important elements when making pictures. Not really exclusive to photography, as typically most painters are also making their craft when the light is at it's best.
The quality of the light is something I struggle with greatly living where I do. In winter we have very little light, and what we have is typically not very pretty (typically around 6 hours of daylight during December & January with lots of grey days - never easy conditions). Contrast to summer, like now, where we are having more than 19 hours of daylight. Very difficult to catch sunset or sunrise - sunset is at 11.00 pm and sunrise around 3.30 am without staying up all night! I think these extremes really opened my eyes to the whole light thing. Right now, as we are enjoying some beautiful sunny days, it is impossible to get a decent image during the day as it's so bright, so on days like those, I tend to go for close ups and details rather than vistas. I was in Syria recently and the light there in the daytime, typically when I was out and about doing my sightseeing was shockingly bright. Resulted in some very disappointing images.
Here's an example of what I consider to be good light for image making - subject not so exciting, but anyway, it's to illustrate a point, this was just before sunset. (And this is out of the camera, apart from a crop and resize).
Message edited by author 2010-07-03 10:19:35. |
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07/03/2010 10:43:01 AM · #69 |
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07/03/2010 11:26:56 AM · #70 |
I like dreamy cows, lol! Thanks to everyone. I'm going to try to reshoot this later today. It's very overcast, so who knows, but THIS time I'm taking the big camera, and staying the heck away from the fence. The last experience was a bit unnerving (and the fence didn't look very strong, either).
As for  idnic's Move the Light tutorial, i look at that when I first got here, but it made no sense to me and I've not revisited it. Guess it's time! Thanks for all of the comments. I'll try to reshoot this eve and do better! |
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07/03/2010 11:33:37 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Anyone else have input on "seeing the light"? |
That's a very good post Steve. It touches on the basics of light very nicely. See my signature :-) People can see also the Landscape/Natural Light Mentoring Thread from way back when. Unfortunately, when they changed something in DPC the thumbs stopped showing automatically on old threads, but many of the links still work if you click on them.
R.
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07/03/2010 02:26:37 PM · #72 |
My best advice on "seeing" the light is this, turn off all the lights around your house, and pull the curtains mostly or partly..
Now start trying to guess how bright one spot will be compared to another on film, then shoot and compare how much difference you thought there was to how much difference there really was when photographed.
Playing around like this (and using many other shooting situations..), I have learned just how much difference a subtle difference in lighting can make.. One of the best examples of this is in landscape shooting when it's partly cloudy... The subtle shifts of light across the landscape can make a HUGE difference in the end result..
Basically, I guess what I'm ranting towards, is that effectively, you need to simply practice, the critical part is really paying attention to what the light is doing instead of what the subject is doing.
I'm always chasing the perfect natural lighting... |
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07/03/2010 05:09:55 PM · #73 |
| My best advice on 'seeing the light' is to pay attention to shadows. The color & quality of shadows alone can tell you a lot about the object that's casting the shadows and the light that's creating the shadows. |
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07/03/2010 07:07:28 PM · #74 |
| Also equally as important is understanding how different colors correspond to the different zones. |
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07/03/2010 07:15:56 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by PGerst:
Also equally as important is understanding how different colors correspond to the different zones. |
zones? |
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