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Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/04/2010 12:22:22 AM · #8

wow ... just wow!

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

09/04/2010 12:23:52 AM · #9

LOL... I soo thought this was old news by now.. Freaking amazing isn't it though?

EBJones

Nikon D200

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

09/04/2010 12:25:02 AM · #10

Originally posted by Stiger:

Wow. The selections, the content fill, the puppet warp. That's incredible. I might have to go rob a bank tomorrow so that I can buy CS5.

Expensive? Yes.

Still, there are options (legal ones, even!) Sign up for classes. . . . buy older versions and then buy upgrades. . . . Whole thread about it here.

bergiekat

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II

09/04/2010 12:42:24 AM · #11

Like you KNEW about all of it, lol! Such a know-it-all! :P Don't you have Photoshop 7 or something???

Originally posted by coryboehne:

LOL... I soo thought this was old news by now.. Freaking amazing isn't it though?

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

09/04/2010 01:08:46 AM · #12

Originally posted by coryboehne:

LOL... I soo thought this was old news by now.. Freaking amazing isn't it though?

Yes, I thought it was old news now too. I've had CS5 since June, I suppose I should really try some of the new features?

ETA, of course, I have tried the HDR but absolutely hate it and would never use it over Photomatix. The content aware fill I have also tried but it's not quite as easy to use as in the demo video. Can require lots of touch up depending on the scene you are working on.

Message edited by author 2010-09-04 01:17:29.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

09/04/2010 02:34:50 AM · #13

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Like you KNEW about all of it, lol! Such a know-it-all! :P Don't you have Photoshop 7 or something???

Originally posted by coryboehne:
LOL... I soo thought this was old news by now.. Freaking amazing isn't it though?

Actually, I'm running PS 2.5 LE on a 486 DX4 100. :) Why? That's legal in basic right? ;)

Message edited by author 2010-09-04 02:37:14.

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/04/2010 03:14:12 AM · #14

Just dont get too excited about `content aware fill` - the horse pic was specially chosen because it had lots of plain image data available to either side of the horse. Its good, it aint THAT good - trust me, it wouldn`t stand upto the standards of pixel peepers like you lot.

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

09/04/2010 04:39:00 AM · #15

Originally posted by Simms:

Ha, that's exactly my experience too.

photodude

09/04/2010 09:09:06 AM · #16

This guy has a cool site loaded with awesome videos PS God

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

09/04/2010 12:42:40 PM · #17

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by Simms:
Just dont get too excited about `content aware fill` - the horse pic was specially chosen because it had lots of plain image data available to either side of the horse. Its good, it aint THAT good - trust me, it wouldn`t stand upto the standards of pixel peepers like you lot.

Ha, that's exactly my experience too.

This reminds me of sometimes when I express pleasure at how well our daughter did at something, and she almost always points out that someone else did even better.

Even if it's only half as good as the video makes it seem, it's a FAR easier thing to do than straight cloning.

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

09/04/2010 12:56:51 PM · #18

Originally posted by levyj413:

Even if it's only half as good as the video makes it seem, it's a FAR easier thing to do than straight cloning.

Actually, I find I go back to doing it the old way to be honest. It's great for big areas where everything is even, but I haven't found it to be particularly time saving for anything else.

Here's an example. Say I want to get rid of one of the men in this image.

I select, him, then using the content aware fill I get this. Not really what I'm looking for. It's cloned part of the train.....

Message edited by author 2010-09-04 13:06:20.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

09/04/2010 01:32:26 PM · #19

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by levyj413:

Even if it's only half as good as the video makes it seem, it's a FAR easier thing to do than straight cloning.

Actually, I find I go back to doing it the old way to be honest.

I stand corrected. :)

Maybe the most accurate statement is that it's a very useful tool in some circumstances?

Strikeslip

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

09/04/2010 03:10:17 PM · #20

Originally posted by levyj413:

My brother just sent this to me. I'm still using CS2, but this is just amazing.

//tv.adobe.com/watch/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/terry-whites-top-5-photoshop-cs5-features/

I can do all that stuff in-camera using only mind power.

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

09/04/2010 03:19:21 PM · #21

Originally posted by levyj413:

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by levyj413:

Even if it's only half as good as the video makes it seem, it's a FAR easier thing to do than straight cloning.

Actually, I find I go back to doing it the old way to be honest.

I stand corrected. :)

Maybe the most accurate statement is that it's a very useful tool in some circumstances?

Definitely with the right image.

Louis

Nikon D800

09/04/2010 04:18:38 PM · #22

I've been happily going on using the "old" healing brush tool without exploring the options in CS5. I'm an idjit. I explored the puppet thing a bit, but it seemed just too weird to me. I think one has to let some of these tools enter one's consciousness as standard cloning tools before the weirdness subsides.

I'm sorry they felt the need to make HDR so simple, including faux HDR. I suppose I'll have to prepare myself for bleeding eyeballs in forthcoming challenges. :P

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

09/04/2010 06:29:39 PM · #23

Originally posted by Louis:

I've been happily going on using the "old" healing brush tool without exploring the options in CS5.

Well if you've been using the spot healing brush chances are you have been using the content aware fill since that's now the default type option for that tool. Personally, I think that's where the content aware fill shines.

The video makes you believe that the content aware fill can work for just any image. It can't. It's just as limited as the cloning and healing brush. If it lacks cloning sources it'll do a poor job. Now when there's a lot of cloning sources to use like skies and the DOF doesn't change then it'll work pretty well. In other words, it won't be replacing any difficult editing jobs. Those still need to be done by hand.

For example, if the DOF changes then content aware fill isn't smart enough to know. I tried to extend a landscape shot at the bottom where a road and fence curved in torward the foreground. Because the road and fence went from OOF to sharp the filled in areas ended up containing elements of both. In other words, it went from OOF, to sharp back to OOF then sharp again. Also, sometimes it'll just make poor decisions when figuring out what to use as a clone source. For example, in this image I wanted to extend the frame on both sides (i.e. create more of the background). Seemed like a pretty easy task for the content aware fill but it failed miserably. It kept wanting to use parts of the guy himself as fill for the background. If I made the selections very small it worked a little better but it was at the expense of a consistent tonal transition. I ended up having to do it all manually. Basically, it just couldn't figure out that it should use just the background as the cloning source. I'm guessing it would have done a better job had the background been evenly lit.

Message edited by author 2010-09-04 18:35:37.

yanko