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 09/11/2010 06:20:40 PM · #26
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Disagree... If you think you're embarrassed, you should start doing better soon, and that's the goal here I think.

ubique will never do any better... he is hopelessly mired in creativity.

Pot calling kettle black, you know. :-)
 09/11/2010 06:24:02 PM · #27
How about an option - the user gets to choose whether the profile page shows the five (or however many) top scoring entries OR the five (or however many) most recent challenge entries. The most recent would then be a continually renewing showcase which would make visiting users' profile pages that much more interesting.

Possible in the coding scheme of things? More likely if we send Langdon bribes? And remember - user selected. Those that like the top scoring can still keep that. This adds an option for people who think dolls are just a wee bit creepy....
 09/11/2010 06:32:52 PM · #28
Originally posted by Melethia:
How about an option - the user gets to choose whether the profile page shows the five (or however many) top scoring entries OR the five (or however many) most recent challenge entries. The most recent would then be a continually renewing showcase which would make visiting users' profile pages that much more interesting.

Possible in the coding scheme of things? More likely if we send Langdon bribes? And remember - user selected. Those that like the top scoring can still keep that. This adds an option for people who think dolls are just a wee bit creepy....


Or the 4-5 that are their favorites? That would be my preference.
 09/11/2010 06:34:05 PM · #29
Maybe the top scoring images could dump at the end of the calendar year and start over. To piggy-back that perhaps there could be a link after "Highest rated photographs of 2010" that would lead to an archive page. The top 5 shots from each year being displayed there.
 09/12/2010 01:53:12 AM · #30
In starting this thread I was suggesting only that it'd be nice to have an option to not show any 'Highest Scoring Images' on your profile page.

If you do show them, then surely it should remain as it is now: your highest scoring images all-time. Otherwise it's meaningless.

But if scores are not a criterion for you, why show them? Alphabetical order would, for example, be just as illuminating.
 09/12/2010 02:03:12 AM · #31
Originally posted by ubique:
In starting this thread I was suggesting only that it'd be nice to have an option to not show any 'Highest Scoring Images' on your profile page.

If you do show them, then surely it should remain as it is now: your highest scoring images all-time. Otherwise it's meaningless.

But if scores are not a criterion for you, why show them? Alphabetical order would, for example, be just as illuminating.


Dude, your photos are excellent... I wouldn't worry about the votes and stuff.
 09/12/2010 02:34:19 PM · #32
I'd vote for the dropping photos off the top rated section after so many years. Many of us have evolved or at least hope we have. Here is my 5th highest rated shot and it is apiece of crap; taken with a cheap lens, oof,drab color and processed very badly. It was shot in 2005 and scored almost 6.9! I hate it being on my profile page.

09/12/2010 09:57:14 PM · #33
I agree with the suggestion.

I do find it an odd concept that a high-scoring shot "embarrasses" anyone, but to each his own.
 09/12/2010 10:34:33 PM · #34
Hmm...I think I may be the only one to disagree.

Even if you were to hide the top rated photos, its easy for a user to see what your highest rates photos are. Just click average column.

You can elect recent or select the photos you want to appear for your select portfolio images section. That section is your own personal "space".

But, the highest rated photo section is something that "belongs" to the community. Yes, a certain top 5 may define your style, but, isn't that part of the nuance of DPC?

However, there is a point to be made that photographers styles do change over time. To add to that, VOTER's styles change over time. Certainly the grumblings in the forums, DPL issues, and DPC user vacations have made that clear.

Perhaps, the idea presented in this thread is a better compromise where the top 5 are taken from the last 25 entered challenges. This would shift as voter and photographer styles change. ETA: Or new equipment.

I really think if permissions were granted so that an individual could remove the top 5 rated photos, it would be a loss of the personality of the site.

Message edited by author 2010-09-12 22:35:54.
 09/13/2010 12:47:48 AM · #35
My highest rated photos are some of my least favorite photos I've ever taken, so yeah, I'd definitely love to be able to turn them off.
09/13/2010 02:57:56 AM · #36
Seems like everyone agrees with this suggestion, so I am vehemently opposed.

If it's not implemented in the next week or two, then you'll know who's calling the shots around here.
 09/13/2010 07:43:28 AM · #37
Makes two of us.

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Seems like everyone agrees with this suggestion, so I am vehemently opposed.
09/13/2010 08:32:46 AM · #38


Originally posted by PGerst:

You can elect recent or select the photos you want to appear for your select portfolio images section. That section is your own personal "space".
But, the highest rated photo section is something that "belongs" to the community. Yes, a certain top 5 may define your style, but, isn't that part of the nuance of DPC?
However, there is a point to be made that photographers styles do change over time. To add to that, VOTER's styles change over time. Certainly the grumblings in the forums, DPL issues, and DPC user vacations have made that clear.
Perhaps, the idea presented in this thread is a better compromise where the top 5 are taken from the last 25 entered challenges. This would shift as voter and photographer styles change. ETA: Or new equipment.
I really think if permissions were granted so that an individual could remove the top 5 rated photos, it would be a loss of the personality of the site.


Originally posted by PGerst:
Makes two of us.


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 09/13/2010 11:24:45 AM · #39
Originally posted by h2:
Originally posted by PGerst:

... the highest rated photo section is something that "belongs" to the community ... I really think if ... an individual could remove the top 5 rated photos, it would be a loss of the personality of the site.


Originally posted by PGerst:
Makes two of us.


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OK I'm convinced. It's an irresistible argument you mount – 'Community über alles.'

I'm not sure you should count Art among the dissenters though. Perhaps, given your austere views about personal profile pages, Art's characteristic impish subtlety may have eluded you?
 09/13/2010 11:50:11 AM · #40
I never understand people who oppose whatever does not affect them.

09/13/2010 02:18:37 PM · #41
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
I never understand people who oppose whatever does not affect them.

I am opposed to your lack of understanding.
 09/13/2010 02:20:14 PM · #42
Originally posted by ubique:
...Art's characteristic impish subtlety...

I am not sure if I've been insulted. ...cuz I'd be opposed to that.

eta:
Originally posted by ubique:
I'm not sure you should count Art among the dissenters though.

ahhh, ok I see what you were saying and you would be correct and kudos for picking up on my impish subtlety.

Message edited by author 2010-09-13 14:22:50.
 09/13/2010 02:23:31 PM · #43
I would like to hide/show challenge photos in my profile. Or be able to show the ones I like the most.
 09/13/2010 02:30:52 PM · #44
Art, you are a true shepherd, look at your flock blindly following you without grasping what you were really saying. lol

I'm all for choice. I understand PGerst's argument and I think this site should keep our results in some sort of order but I would like the option to be able to change what people see on my profile page.

Maybe we can leave the results intact but remove, as an option, the thumbnails and let other images from our portfolio take their place.

Message edited by author 2010-09-13 14:32:31.
 09/13/2010 03:00:54 PM · #45
I think the proposal - for what is after all only an OPTION - quite reasonable. I would like to think I would make use of it, but I am lazy when it comes to making choices - I try to limit myself to one or two a day. On the other hand I would be delighted to view what other users have carefully chosen to offer me.

Not at all sure that the option of having the highest scoring in the more recent challenges would be so effective. Though that too could be a choice; just not to rule out the original option.

Not at all sure how this threatens the "personality" of the site; possibly pgerst meant the character or nature or purpose of dpc, in which case I would argue that the individual development of the photographer would be wonderfully served by such an option, and that dpc is more about THAT than about who is a better or worser photographer. Well... Well if it isn't, then maybe it should be.

09/13/2010 03:00:56 PM · #46
You can do that already. Just for challenges, they are static. Choosing which photos you want for both defeats the purpose of competition. If you like your lower scoring challenge images, put them in the personal section. But, without some site consistency, its hard to "calibrate" one's expectations of a "good photo" to a "Great one". The whole idea of "calibration" goes to the other forum post about having DPC automatically change based on the last 25 entries. Plus, provides more consistent variety across all users.

Originally posted by Jac:
I understand PGerst's argument and I think this site should keep our results in some sort of order but I would like the option to be able to change what people see on my profile page.
09/13/2010 03:22:56 PM · #47
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
I never understand people who oppose whatever does not affect them.

I am opposed to your lack of understanding.

yes... Art is objective.
 09/13/2010 03:26:41 PM · #48
Originally posted by PGerst:
... the purpose of competition...

and that's where we differ.
 09/13/2010 03:29:08 PM · #49
Originally posted by PGerst:
You can do that already. Just for challenges, they are static. Choosing which photos you want for both defeats the purpose of competition. If you like your lower scoring challenge images, put them in the personal section. But, without some site consistency, its hard to "calibrate" one's expectations of a "good photo" to a "Great one". The whole idea of "calibration" goes to the other forum post about having DPC automatically change based on the last 25 entries. Plus, provides more consistent variety across all users.

Originally posted by Jac:
I understand PGerst's argument and I think this site should keep our results in some sort of order but I would like the option to be able to change what people see on my profile page.


Calibration!? lol.

The whole idea with DPC as a community having to do with anything on someone's personal profile page is laughable at best.

Message edited by author 2010-09-13 15:29:32.
 09/13/2010 05:52:33 PM · #50
Fair enough. I'll edit to add:

Part of DPC is competition.

Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Originally posted by PGerst:
... the purpose of competition...

and that's where we differ.
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