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07/13/2004 04:10:50 PM · #51 |
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07/13/2004 04:15:27 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by drgsoell:
Boo Hoo.
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Good grief, people like me would be happy for even one shot in the top 10 (which is exactly what I have out of 50 entries. That's 0.5%). Stats like most of these, I would kill for.
Everyone knows how good you all are, after all we all voted you there. But to post your envious stats and then say "Oh I'm such a lousy photographer that I only got this many in the top ten." kinda kicks the rest of us in the face. If you are such bad photographers, what does that make us?
Someone move this to the RANT section.
(Done ranting and mixing it up. Stepping back to avoid backsplash, angry retorts.)
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I was not implying that those people with multiple top-ten finishes did not deserve their stats. Goodness, the number of votes on each challenge show that they do deserve every ribbon and high finish they get and I am envious of them all.
I also did not mean to imply that I get lower votes than I deserve (same reason as above). I am not whining about my scores as it is ENTIRELY MY RESPONSIBILITY for how well or poorly I do.
Just makes me feel like there is no chance for me when people who are better than I am, put themselves down.
Hope I did not insult anyone as that was not my intention. My original post was supposed to be partially in jest. Maybe I dug up something I did not know was there.
Aplogies to all.
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07/13/2004 05:01:52 PM · #53 |
Just as there are those here struggling to break various barriers - the 6 barrier, the top fifty barrier, the 7 barrier, even (hopeless optimism) the 8 barrier, there are those who have achieved one or other of those, and are looking toward the next. That, I think is what Jon means by his 'poor' comment. I'm sure he's also trying to get through the blue ribbon barrier, come to that.
I now have 15 top tens out of 72 entries. By Jon's reckoning, also poor - and possibly by my own. When I started submitting here, I'm sure I would have looked with some envy at a photographer with the stats I now have (perhaps apart from the average vote recieved). These days, I want to be improving my regular score, and thus achieving more top ten (twenty, 6.xxx, ribbons, whatever) placings. This is good, it makes it a learning experience, an improving experience. Sometimes people make that leap quickly, sometimes slowly, sometimes never. Some people never seem to need to make that leap at all (Gary, JJ, Heida ...)
My first top ten was my 15th submission - so since then, it's 15/58. Still only 1 in 4 entries, if you look at it that way.
My point is that we are all starting from different places, with different expectations.
A d never forget that we don't all always submit photographs simply because we think they will win. This is the real beauty of DPC - those folks submitting shots they really like, or that they are experimenting with, from time to time. Or even, like Zeus, submitting ith very little regard to the probable result, in the full knowledge that their shot will be lucky to break 5, because they want to exhibit their work here, because they like the place.
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07/13/2004 05:09:41 PM · #54 |
| 2/50... only a 4% of my entries are top ten.... I hope I´ll get more top ten in the future and of course a ribbon... Impossible is nothing! |
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07/13/2004 05:19:35 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by e301:
Just as there are those here struggling to break various barriers - the 6 barrier, the top fifty barrier, the 7 barrier, even (hopeless optimism) the 8 barrier, there are those who have achieved one or other of those, and are looking toward the next. That, I think is what Jon means by his 'poor' comment. I'm sure he's also trying to get through the blue ribbon barrier, come to that.
I now have 15 top tens out of 72 entries. By Jon's reckoning, also poor - and possibly by my own. When I started submitting here, I'm sure I would have looked with some envy at a photographer with the stats I now have (perhaps apart from the average vote recieved). These days, I want to be improving my regular score, and thus achieving more top ten (twenty, 6.xxx, ribbons, whatever) placings. This is good, it makes it a learning experience, an improving experience. Sometimes people make that leap quickly, sometimes slowly, sometimes never. Some people never seem to need to make that leap at all (Gary, JJ, Heida ...)
My first top ten was my 15th submission - so since then, it's 15/58. Still only 1 in 4 entries, if you look at it that way.
My point is that we are all starting from different places, with different expectations.
A d never forget that we don't all always submit photographs simply because we think they will win. This is the real beauty of DPC - those folks submitting shots they really like, or that they are experimenting with, from time to time. Or even, like Zeus, submitting ith very little regard to the probable result, in the full knowledge that their shot will be lucky to break 5, because they want to exhibit their work here, because they like the place.
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Well said Ed, I agree with you. |
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07/13/2004 05:32:44 PM · #56 |
I'm hoping one day to get my average over 6....
I'd have to stop entering pictures that I like but don't think will do well on occasion though - one of my favourite entries ever finished in the bottom 10%...
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07/13/2004 05:33:39 PM · #57 |
8 out of 22, I really need to enter another challenge soon :)
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07/13/2004 05:43:47 PM · #58 |
| I'm in my third challenge now and so far am 0/3. But now I feel like I have a good idea of the expectations from voters and the type of photo and editing I need to do. I've really learned a lot just lurking around this site the last month. Hopefully I'll get some top 10s soon! |
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07/13/2004 05:44:23 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by scab-lab:
8 out of 22, I really need to enter another challenge soon :) |
Yes you do...I love to see your work! :o)
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07/13/2004 05:46:41 PM · #60 |
| 1 top 10 out of 26 entries. Luckily, the one top 10 happened to be 3rd place :) |
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07/13/2004 05:50:34 PM · #61 |
| Only a stinking 3 out of 23 challenges, but still living in that childish hope that some day I can be good. |
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07/13/2004 05:53:44 PM · #62 |
1 out of 97 challenges. This thread is so depressing.
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07/13/2004 05:59:33 PM · #63 |
2/32 = .0625%
Can't say I'm surprised, never entered a challenge thinking I'd win.
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07/13/2004 06:01:34 PM · #64 |
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07/13/2004 06:06:06 PM · #65 |
Ahh, but I have 11 out of 139 in the bottom 20th percentile, including one last place brown ribbon.
Make any of you feel better?
(And for the record, I do not in any form, fashion, or use of the word, consider myself one of the "good" photographers on the site. I wouldn't even place myself in the top half.)
PS -- Havok, wouldn't 2/32 be 6.25%? |
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07/13/2004 06:07:26 PM · #66 |
4/7
EDIT: This challenge will NOT make 5/8 :(
Message edited by author 2004-07-13 18:08:10.
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07/13/2004 06:08:53 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
I'm hoping one day to get my average over 6....
I'd have to stop entering pictures that I like but don't think will do well on occasion though - one of my favorite entries ever finished in the bottom 10%... |
That's funny Gordon
When I first came to DPC, and after a few challenges, I looked at a a selection of portfolios.
I remember coming across yours and being astounded at the range of high quality photography displayed - in fact I recall sending you an email asking for tips (Low light / Night photography).
Ever since then, I set my goal to reach your average score which was 6 point something. I think you were one of the very few, if not the only person I was aware of that had a 6+ average; and it was a real goal of mine to be at the same number.
Ed: I agree 100%. If one doesn't push oneself than one will never improve. (or so my parents always told me ;)
One of my new 'aims' is to get a 6+ average by submitting shots I like as opposed to shooting for DPC. But i can't see that happening very quickly.
Message edited by author 2004-07-13 18:17:31.
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07/13/2004 06:10:08 PM · #68 |
I have a question about how entries are won. To start off, I have only subitted one photo, and did not even come close to a win.
I usually look at this, and several other contest sites to learn from others, and try to inspire myself to do better. More than likely better then I am capable of.
Sometimes, I will see three winners in any of the categories on the day after a topic closes, and maybe two days later, one entry has been replaced with someone else's photo. How and why does this happen?
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07/13/2004 06:11:38 PM · #69 |
Some photos get disqualified because the photographer didn't follow the rules.
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07/13/2004 06:13:55 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by DPBeckSr:
I have a question about how entries are won. To start off, I have only subitted one photo, and did not even come close to a win.
I usually look at this, and several other contest sites to learn from others, and try to inspire myself to do better. More than likely better then I am capable of.
Sometimes, I will see three winners in any of the categories on the day after a topic closes, and maybe two days later, one entry has been replaced with someone else's photo. How and why does this happen? |
That is usually because one of the winning photos was disqualified due to a rules violation. The top five finishers in each challenge are validated by the SC, along with any for which a request was made during the voting. |
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07/13/2004 06:18:38 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
I remember coming across yours and being astounded at the range of high quality photography displayed - in fact I recall sending you an email asking for tips (Low light / Night photography). |
Did I answer ? :)
A lot of my personal favourite entries tend to do worse than my more stocky, bright, shiny, saturated images. I find the shots that I take that are more successful are more boring to me.
Is a good example, about 15 minutes total to come up with the idea and have the finished result. Nothing very difficult or challenging. It looks pretty but isn't exactly hard to do. That sort of stuff scores well but I can't really be bothered shooting things like it. It just doesn't interest me a whole lot.
I'm finding creating interesting images with people, animals and real life in general to be a much more fun challenge.
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07/13/2004 06:18:59 PM · #72 |
| Thanks! I was leaning to that answer, but wanted to be certain. I am still learning. |
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07/13/2004 06:34:10 PM · #73 |
| 5/61 top tens and 19/61 top 20% (I like this last stats better) but have been spiraling downward lately :-(. |
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07/13/2004 06:42:44 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by flip89:
19/61 top 20% (I like this last stats better) |
Me too! 10 out of my last 11 (presumably including Freedom) in the top 20%. I figure if I stay in that herd long enough somebody will trip and I'll snag a ribbon. ;-) |
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07/13/2004 06:57:23 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by jonpink:
I remember coming across yours and being astounded at the range of high quality photography displayed - in fact I recall sending you an email asking for tips (Low light / Night photography). |
Did I answer ? :)
A lot of my personal favorite entries tend to do worse than my more stocky, bright, shiny, saturated images. I find the shots that I take that are more successful are more boring to me.
Is a good example, about 15 minutes total to come up with the idea and have the finished result. Nothing very difficult or challenging. It looks pretty but isn't exactly hard to do. That sort of stuff scores well but I can't really be bothered shooting things like it. It just doesn't interest me a whole lot.
I'm finding creating interesting images with people, animals and real life in general to be a much more fun challenge. |
Yeah you replied - Thanks again ;)
I can completely agree with the boring aspect of 'shooting pretty'. I think again that has been another reason for my sudden lack of interest in photography over the last couple of months.
I really enjoyed that side for a while (shooting pretty), but then it becomes lifeless and doesn't get me going on a personal level.
Likewise my pleasure comes from shooting rugged B&W landscapes / cityscapes and especially things that people find ugly (derelict buildings / power plants) - kind of conflicts with DPC which can result in half the effort either way.
Either that or flying out to a poor 3rd world country and shooting some emotive journalistic pieces.
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