Creative Editing - who wants to learn?

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

05/01/2011 08:05:43 PM · #78

Originally posted by wolf:

I'd love to participate as well.

In.

cynthiann

Nikon D810

05/01/2011 08:38:32 PM · #79

Just saw this! I'd like to participate too, please.

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

05/01/2011 09:13:01 PM · #80

Trying to catch up:

cats:

Tried to colorize the next cat. The one thing I noticed is that you can't seem to get really vibrant colors...

05/01/2011 10:30:36 PM · #81

Sorry bit delayed in getting going on this.. been a busy weekend.

Here is from lesson one. The first thing I noticed is while doing the second part is that when bringing back the color I had a lot of bleed over and had to go back and remove it, I think this is because of the way the brush was setup, it is stronger in the center and weaker as it goes out, so when you want to get it to full color on the outside edges it then bleeds over, does this make sense? is this right or did I do something wrong?

05/01/2011 11:00:29 PM · #82

vawendy - Nice work. Watch your colourizing over the shadows though. And as for colour vibrancy, that is determined by how dark the BW tones are that you are trying to colourize. You can't colour white for example.

Socom - Nice work on the drop shadow and border. You will get bleed over unless you really zoom in and paint your outside edges first, then fillin with a larger brush. Try and use a soft brush as this gives you a neater blend and if you zoom in, obviously use a smaller brush. Also this is where masks come in because you can then mask out where you went outside the lines and see the areas you have missed. By masking for the entire cat first, then you can just Alt+click on the mask and smake sure your cat is completely covered. Then Alt+click to get out of there. Ctrl+click on the mask and fill that with the colour you want in one click.

cynthiann - you're in.

05/02/2011 12:46:36 AM · #83

Judi - Ok with lesson 2 and the coloring section, I dont seem to be able to get the deeper colors. Also, even switching colors they look the same, those two blue ones side by side are very different colors of blue but look exactly the same. (the bottom one should be much darker then the top one)

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05/02/2011 12:49:40 AM · #84

Socom - It is difficult to get really deep colours, depending on our dark the BW tones are on that area. With regards toyour blues, it could be either the initial tones of those umbrellas were different, and you used a dark blue on the light umbrella and vice versa on the other OR you accidently switched your foreground/background colour before painting and ended up painting with the first blue again. Try it again and see what happens. (Pressing X on the keyboard will switch your foreground/background colours).

05/02/2011 12:52:41 AM · #85

Judi I checked, all that seems fine, here is the layer

I guess its just the way the Umbrellas are.

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Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/02/2011 01:04:08 AM · #86

Lesson 2:

Maggye

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/02/2011 01:17:09 AM · #87

So I just started with lesson one, here are my first two.

Now, I was trying to download the picture of the kitties, but I don't get the full size. What am I missing?

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/02/2011 01:23:33 AM · #88

Socom - Yep, it looks like it is due to the tonage of the umbrellas. But do zoom in and be careful around your colour edges...there is a bit of bleed coming in there.

With your cloning watch your edges. Try cloning onto a blank layer and then turning off the visibility of the background of the background and mask out the unwanted edges.

Maggye - I didn't worry about the large versions of the kitties as you should be able to do the exercise on the small versions. Your lesson images look good. You are more than welcome to use your own images or the ones I supply. I try and leave it up to your choice.

Maggye

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/02/2011 03:08:30 AM · #89

ok, so here is lesson 2.

Now I have to go back to selective desaturarion, that one is really giving me a hard time.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/02/2011 03:19:15 AM · #90

Maggye - Yuor cloning looks good. Your painting is good but watch your edges. I know it sounds picky but I would rather teach you detail now then watch you get hammered down the track on any of your entries.

Now where are you having difficulty with selective desat?

Maggye

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/02/2011 03:25:18 AM · #91

Originally posted by Judi:

Thanks

Judi, and you are right, those edges are giving me a headache and that's the same problem I'm having with desaturation, but I'm sure with practice I'll get better at it. I really appreciate what you are doing, I'm learning a lot.

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

05/02/2011 03:44:22 AM · #92

Originally posted by Maggye:

Originally posted by Judi:
Maggye - Yuor cloning looks good. Your painting is good but watch your edges. I know it sounds picky but I would rather teach you detail now then watch you get hammered down the track on any of your entries.

Now where are you having difficulty with selective desat?

Thanks Judi, and you are right, those edges are giving me a headache and that's the same problem I'm having with desaturation, but I'm sure with practice I'll get better at it. I really appreciate what you are doing, I'm learning a lot.

Make sure you are using a soft brush, zoom right in and use a small brush for detail. With your selective desat masking, when you think you have it right do Alt+click on the mask to see the mask on the main image in black and white. You will see where you have missed areas and where other edges don't look right. You can paint straight onto the mask. Just Alt+click to go back to normal view. I often switch between these two types of view to make sure I have it right.

amnon

Canon EOS R6

05/02/2011 06:19:33 AM · #93

hi judi
i do not find the source to download the images in hi res
i tried to copy from dpc but got only a gif. thanks for ur help

05/02/2011 06:49:08 AM · #94

Originally posted by amnon:

hi judi
i do not find the source to download the images in hi res
i tried to copy from dpc but got only a gif. thanks for ur help

Which images are you looking for?

PHOTOKID

05/02/2011 06:51:41 AM · #95

Hey Judi,

I am stuck on the Painting of the Black and White image of lesson 2. I open the photo, and I create my layer, but when I try to convert the layer to a colour layer I am not able to select it.

I have tried the Layer both as a normal layer and a duplicate layer and both ways it seems unselectable.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you =)

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

05/02/2011 07:36:36 AM · #96

Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:

If anybody out there has this same issue, simply go to Image/Mode and change it from Greyscale to RGB mode. It will then work.

Now while I think of it, I have a shoot over the next two days and will be out of town. I will be able to come online at night, so please add your questions and results here so I can answer them when I get back each night. For the ones that have completed the first couple of lessons, please move onto Lesson 3. In two days time I will put up the next stage. That should give you guys some time to get through the fiddly stages of that lessons. I promise, that is the fiddliest part of these types of images. I like to get the hard work out of the way so you can get down and funky with your creativity and see your image come to life.

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

05/02/2011 07:40:29 AM · #97

Originally posted by Judi:

I wasn't sure what to do with the shadows. When I noticed that it colored them, I went and deleted the color. But then it was a grey shadow, and I noticed that the first cat really did have a yellow shadow reflection.

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

05/02/2011 07:49:15 AM · #98

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Judi:
vawendy - Nice work. Watch your colourizing over the shadows though. And as for colour vibrancy, that is determined by how dark the BW tones are that you are trying to colourize. You can't colour white for example.

I wasn't sure what to do with the shadows. When I noticed that it colored them, I went and deleted the color. But then it was a grey shadow, and I noticed that the first cat really did have a yellow shadow reflection.

Try doing the shadow on a different layer and really reduce the opacity right down if you still want to retain some colour.

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

05/02/2011 07:50:38 AM · #99

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Judi:
vawendy - Nice work. Watch your colourizing over the shadows though. And as for colour vibrancy, that is determined by how dark the BW tones are that you are trying to colourize. You can't colour white for example.

I wasn't sure what to do with the shadows. When I noticed that it colored them, I went and deleted the color. But then it was a grey shadow, and I noticed that the first cat really did have a yellow shadow reflection.

Try doing the shadow on a different layer and really reduce the opacity right down if you still want to retain some colour.

Good idea -- I didn't bother going back and fixing it, but I was thinking of changing the opacity of the brush next time. A new layer is much easier and much more flexible.