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05/31/2011 06:41:04 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Is this a lot of views?
Votes: 232
Views: 619
Avg Vote: 5.9316
Updated: 05/31/11 05:05 pm |
I am calling FOUL - you have 2 more votes than I do. lol
Votes: 230
Views: 545
Avg Vote: 5.7478
Comments: 17
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/31/11 06:39 pm
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05/31/2011 09:24:56 PM · #102 |
yes, how can their be almost 3x as many views as votes!
Votes: 230
Views: 603
Avg Vote: 6.xxx
Comments: 17
happy to have so many comments, too... i seemed to have stirred some reaction ;-)
-mefnj |
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05/31/2011 09:38:06 PM · #103 |
It is very strange. Look at William88's winner. It only had 468 views while voting was going on. Surely that thumbnail looks better than these fridge thumbs. DPC is a strange place ! A strange place indeed....I"m willing to bet that this challenge has the most views of any recent challenges. It also has only 54 entries.
I wonder what's going on...hmmmmm.
lace: 1 out of 84
Avg (all users): 8.0559
Views during voting: 468
Votes: 143
Comments: 86
Favorites: 31 (view)
Originally posted by mefnj:
yes, how can their be almost 3x as many views as votes!
Votes: 230
Views: 603
Avg Vote: 6.xxx
Comments: 17
happy to have so many comments, too... i seemed to have stirred some reaction ;-)
-mefnj |
Message edited by author 2011-05-31 22:08:39. |
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05/31/2011 11:31:14 PM · #104 |
| Yikes !!!! Going down by the minute...I hope everyone is tanking !!! LOL.... |
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05/31/2011 11:55:21 PM · #105 |
Votes: 243
Views: 567
Avg Vote: 5.7449
Comments: 17
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/31/11 11:54 pm
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06/01/2011 01:02:52 AM · #106 |
Top 10, yay! Thanks!
I have to say to the 1 person who gave me a 1, the 5 people who gave me a 2, the 10 people who gave me a 3...
Kiss my you know what! :) I liked the image and obviously so did others, and if that's a 3 in your eyes I would love to see a 10!
A fun challenge though, happy to be back at DPC even though there are still those out to ruin it for others... the good thing is the majority isn't! |
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06/01/2011 01:11:47 AM · #107 |
I hear ya!
Originally posted by Sunshine86:
Top 10, yay! Thanks!
I have to say to the 1 person who gave me a 1, the 5 people who gave me a 2, the 10 people who gave me a 3...
Kiss my you know what! :) I liked the image and obviously so did others, and if that's a 3 in your eyes I would love to see a 10!
A fun challenge though, happy to be back at DPC even though there are still those out to ruin it for others... the good thing is the majority isn't! |
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06/01/2011 03:57:53 AM · #108 |
| Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
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06/01/2011 04:52:02 AM · #109 |
I think my biggest gripe about this challenge was that voters mixed up ideas that were "arbitrary" with "creative."
Without personally attacking anyone, I just don't think that throwing a dog, kid, or other non-food/conceptually related items in a fridge was enough for this challenge. It just felt sort of cheap.
I won't say that my image was great, but I am disappointed to end up in the bottom 30% with a 4.xx with a shot that doesn't have major technical flaws.
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06/01/2011 06:39:40 AM · #110 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I understand your frustration -- I felt the same thing when I first started. But you have to realize that a good portion of photography is studio work. Most professionals do studio work. And the best professionals, imo, go a beyond the normal, everyone stand in line and smile shot.
So why isn't a setup, creative studio shot just as valid as a candid?
As I mentioned before: I had the same thoughts when I first started here. Photography wasn't about setting up a moment, it was about capturing a moment. But that was my version of photography. And I quickly realized that people can have their own interpretations.
So where do you go from there? Simply put, there were challenges that required setup shots. I didn't enjoy them, but I did them.
And I learned a huge amount in the process!
By studying the things that you can learn in a studio shot: lighting, composition, setup, creativity, it helps you be a better photographer. You still may choose to do the "realistic" images, but you'll be better at them for all of your experiences.
I speak from experience. |
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06/01/2011 07:30:45 AM · #111 |
.....I know that some people don't put their apples in the fridge but some do ! LOL.....
Originally posted by jamesgoss:
I think my biggest gripe about this challenge was that voters mixed up ideas that were "arbitrary" with "creative."
Without personally attacking anyone, I just don't think that throwing a dog, kid, or other non-food/conceptually related items in a fridge was enough for this challenge. It just felt sort of cheap.
I won't say that my image was great, but I am disappointed to end up in the bottom 30% with a 4.xx with a shot that doesn't have major technical flaws. |
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06/01/2011 07:46:50 AM · #112 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
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06/01/2011 07:52:50 AM · #113 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
All I can say is sit back and get use to it.....nothing will change the way it is. Get into side challenges that interest you. Did the same thing and have similar feelings about some of the challenges, but that falls on my likes and dislikes. Happy shooting. |
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06/01/2011 08:09:28 AM · #114 |
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
+1
Please don't knock these creative "set up" shots until you try one. They are incredibly difficult to do, you get an idea or picture in your head and it is very hard to translate it into film. It almost never comes out how you imagine it, Gyaban is exceptionally good at making what really only exists in his mind, seem real or plausible to the viewer, and that is why he always scores so well. |
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06/01/2011 08:16:14 AM · #115 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I agree completely. It's ridiculous, isn't it? Mr. Hahn should have snapped a wild refrigerator in its natural environment perched on some rocky outcrop in the mountains. Now that would have been real. |
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06/01/2011 08:41:34 AM · #116 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I agree completely. It's ridiculous, isn't it? Mr. Hahn should have snapped a wild refrigerator in its natural environment perched on some rocky outcrop in the mountains. Now that would have been real. |
Lol!
Well, Mine was a Wild fridge. Not even cleaned for the photo.
I just added a light to it & a little smoke.
Personally I couldn't see how the inside of my fridge could be made interesting without a little smoke & lights
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06/01/2011 09:45:30 AM · #117 |
LOL...put me down for both ! Both well represented on my Ipod !
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
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06/01/2011 09:47:48 AM · #118 |
...or he could have packed a fridge with some of that wild goat meat he is always "shooting" ! LOL....
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I agree completely. It's ridiculous, isn't it? Mr. Hahn should have snapped a wild refrigerator in its natural environment perched on some rocky outcrop in the mountains. Now that would have been real. |
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06/01/2011 10:17:29 AM · #119 |
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
exactly, that's the point. Your photos are marvelous and you are a great photographer. I respect your hours in studio and all your ibbon. Don't get me wrong, for me you are great. Just I think a photo is a moment of reality, and not a moment of unreal life in a studio. |
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06/01/2011 10:26:56 AM · #120 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
exactly, that's the point. Your photos are marvelous and you are a great photographer. I respect your hours in studio and all your ibbon. Don't get me wrong, for me you are great. Just I think a photo is a moment of reality, and not a moment of unreal life in a studio. |
Then 90% of professional photographer are probably not doing real photos. Most people are hired to take posed shots. I have a gig on Saturday where I'm doing some candids -- but there will definitely be setup, posed shots. It's just as big of a part of real photography as "finding" a shot. It's just that you prefer one method over the other.
But think it through carefully. Just because that's they way you like to shoot, does it make the others less of a photo?
In the beginning of photography, the majority of photos were setup, simply because of the limitations of the equipment. If photography started out that way, is it fair to say they're not real? (albeit, they didn't have heads in their refrigerator, but it was still a completely made up shot.) Heck, Matthew Brady even moved the dead bodies around in his pictures after the Gettysburg battle.
Message edited by author 2011-06-01 10:29:38. |
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06/01/2011 10:30:51 AM · #121 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
exactly, that's the point. Your photos are marvelous and you are a great photographer. I respect your hours in studio and all your ibbon. Don't get me wrong, for me you are great. Just I think a photo is a moment of reality, and not a moment of unreal life in a studio. |
Then 90% of professional photographer are probably not doing real photos. Most people are hired to take posed shots. I have a gig on Saturday where I'm doing some candids -- but there will definitely be setup, posed shots. It's just as big of a part of real photography as "finding" a shot. It's just that you prefer one method over the other.
But think it through carefully. Just because that's they way you like to shoot, does it make the others less of a photo?
In the beginning of photography, the majority of photos were setup, simply because of the limitations of the equipment. If photography started out that way, is it fair to say they're not real? |
for me ureal means NOT a moment of real life. Such as find your dog into the fridge, or a baby ..... nothing against of course, as I said I think he is a great professionist person |
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06/01/2011 10:34:08 AM · #122 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
for me ureal means NOT a moment of real life. Such as find your dog into the fridge, or a baby ..... nothing against of course, as I said I think he is a great professionist person |
There is no suggestion in the challenge description that it needst to be 'real life'. You are essentially misinterpretting the challenge description if you are inferring this, especially when the challenge description says to take the photo in a 'creative way'.
Message edited by author 2011-06-01 10:35:12. |
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06/01/2011 10:34:54 AM · #123 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
exactly, that's the point. Your photos are marvelous and you are a great photographer. I respect your hours in studio and all your ibbon. Don't get me wrong, for me you are great. Just I think a photo is a moment of reality, and not a moment of unreal life in a studio. |
Then 90% of professional photographer are probably not doing real photos. Most people are hired to take posed shots. I have a gig on Saturday where I'm doing some candids -- but there will definitely be setup, posed shots. It's just as big of a part of real photography as "finding" a shot. It's just that you prefer one method over the other.
But think it through carefully. Just because that's they way you like to shoot, does it make the others less of a photo?
In the beginning of photography, the majority of photos were setup, simply because of the limitations of the equipment. If photography started out that way, is it fair to say they're not real? |
for me ureal means NOT a moment of real life. Such as find your dog into the fridge, or a baby ..... nothing against of course, as I said I think he is a great professionist person |
I would recommend sticking to newspapers then, where the photography is most likely to be photo journalistic. That is but one shade of photography, and you're honestly missing out by trying to cram all of photography into that box. |
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06/01/2011 10:40:29 AM · #124 |
Hey man...I'm starting to get Pi**ed off. Can you please start to mention my COMPUTER in the refigerator along with the dog and the baby references? Give me a little respect ! :)
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
for me ureal means NOT a moment of real life. Such as find your dog into the fridge, or a baby ..... nothing against of course, as I said I think he is a great professionist person |
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06/01/2011 10:44:23 AM · #125 |
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by danieletagliabue:
Well, the 2 best photos are amazing. great idea, great picture, but as usual photos made in studio and unreal. |
I'm not really interested in doing photos depicting reality, although I can appreciate them too. I'm using photography as a way to express my ideas and creativity: it is what I like, and I don't see why this would be "wrong", or less "pure" in any way.
Some people love J.S. Bach, some love Pink Floyd, some even love both. It's all music. |
exactly, that's the point. Your photos are marvelous and you are a great photographer. I respect your hours in studio and all your ibbon. Don't get me wrong, for me you are great. Just I think a photo is a moment of reality, and not a moment of unreal life in a studio. |
Then 90% of professional photographer are probably not doing real photos. Most people are hired to take posed shots. I have a gig on Saturday where I'm doing some candids -- but there will definitely be setup, posed shots. It's just as big of a part of real photography as "finding" a shot. It's just that you prefer one method over the other.
But think it through carefully. Just because that's they way you like to shoot, does it make the others less of a photo?
In the beginning of photography, the majority of photos were setup, simply because of the limitations of the equipment. If photography started out that way, is it fair to say they're not real? |
for me ureal means NOT a moment of real life. Such as find your dog into the fridge, or a baby ..... nothing against of course, as I said I think he is a great professionist person |
I guess you've never had a pet or a baby. My dog sticks his head in the fridge every chance he gets. And I used to have a cat that frequently got shut into the fridge. My granddaughter can on occasion get my fridge open, and has pulled many things from the shelves. Just as real as it gets.
You haven't been here all that long, yet at the end of every challenge you seem to be posting about how everyone else was some how wrong. Maybe you should take a long look at your own interpretations and think about it some more. I'm not saying your way of thinking is wrong, but, I also don't think you should keep going on about how everyone else is wrong. |
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