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07/30/2004 06:01:17 PM · #1

Did you see it?

What did you think?

I saw it, and was EXTREMELY impressed... and inspired. I'm now convinced that come January 2005 we'll be celebrating John Kerry's first term in the White House.

pitsaman

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07/30/2004 06:10:32 PM · #2

" I don't want to claim that God is on our side. As Abraham Lincoln told us, I want to pray humbly that we are on God's side ! "

dacrazyrn

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07/30/2004 06:12:02 PM · #3

Has he even stated anything specific he stands for. I can't remember hearing anything as of yet. All general broad strokes at all the issues. but then again he is a politician.

tyt2000

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07/30/2004 06:17:32 PM · #4

I watched it because I had to write a one page report on it (worth 5 extra points on the test), I wouldn't have watched it otherwise. I have to say that it looked like a movie with his speech and all those camera views.

LoudDog

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07/30/2004 06:18:49 PM · #5

I thought it was a very good speach for him. If people believe it he may win.

thelsel

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07/30/2004 06:22:17 PM · #6

Is it just me or did Kerry:

1. Base most of his platform on what the current President is already doing.
2. Take credit for things he didn't do.
3. Imply Republicans were responsible for things they didn't actually do.
4. Promise a bunch of really cool sounding stuff without specifying how he plans to pay for it.
5. Promise the same age-old programs that no one else has been able to implement in the last 30 years.

07/30/2004 06:40:09 PM · #7

It was a good speech plain and simple. I even had republicans who ive before faught with on the subject tell me today at work they very much liked his speech and if even half of it is not BS, they would vote for him.

I am now highly ancious to see Bush's speech.

Oh ya, did you guys hear that idiot that was running the balloon drop cuss up a storm into a microphone for like 2 minutes?
Those CNN folks need to hire some better, faster working tech controllers, big time.

07/30/2004 06:40:59 PM · #8

On your first point, it is widely accepted that it is the other way around: it is Bush that has attempted to co-opt John Kerry's strategy in regards to Iraq. In fact, it increasingly appears as if Bush's advisors are getting their strategy from what John Kerry has documented so well in his own website.

As for points 2-5, for anyone that's interested, visit John Kerry's website to learn about the solutions he offers. Kerry's plans are responsible, reasonable and well thought out, in regards to Iraq and domestic policies.

Originally posted by thelsel:

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07/30/2004 06:43:38 PM · #9

Ha, yeah, I heard that and wondered what the heck was going on... I think I actually heard an expletive, as in: What the F@#$ is going on! It was pretty funny.

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

darcy

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07/30/2004 06:53:37 PM · #10

and i believe john edwards pointed out in his speech that the way they would pay for their proposed programs would be to *gasp* tax the rich.

i know there are republicans out their scratching their head since they've prolly been convinced for years that such a tax was scientifically (or spiritually for those who don't believe in science) impossible, and these last 3-and-some years have gone a long ways to proving them right, but they're wrong.

now, i'm typcilly glued to CNN, so i've heard a lot of what kerry and bush have both had to say over the last couple of months, and i must say a lot of what i heard from kerry last night seemed to be stitched together portions of previous speeches. still, just the same, they were from good speeches and they stitched together well, and ultimately what he had to say was encouraging.

lets just hope they can keep their message as clear as they made it throughout the DNC, despite the bush team's efforts to spin everything the kerry team says, up until this coming november....

LoudDog

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07/30/2004 06:56:32 PM · #11

did you hear from his speach that he's a war hero? I think he mentioned that.

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07/30/2004 06:58:02 PM · #12

Originally posted by bdobe:

Ha, yeah, I heard that and wondered what the heck was going on... I think I actually heard an expletive, as in: What the F@#$ is going on! It was pretty funny.

Ya he sure did drop the F-bomb. And after they got his mic shut off 2 commentators got on and talked about the "balloon technical difficulties" for like 2 minutes and the one lady said "yes the director was frustrated he used.. I think he used an exploitive."

I was like "LOL you 'think' ??"

cbeller

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07/30/2004 07:01:11 PM · #13

Originally posted by louddog:

did you hear from his speach that he's a war hero? I think he mentioned that.

I don't think that's something to make light of. At first, during the primaries, I was tired of hearing about it. Now, I understand why it is a main point of his campaign. He can relate to the soldiers in Iraq, as he was in the situation before. Bush can't relate.

I've not been a big Kerry fan, but the more I see, hear, and read about him, the more respect I have for him.

Unfortunately, in Bush's case, my opinion seems to go the other direction.

07/30/2004 07:03:37 PM · #14

Originally posted by cbeller:

I've not been a big Kerry fan, but the more I see, hear, and read about him, the more respect I have for him.

Unfortunately, in Bush's case, my opinion seems to go the other direction.

Your now the 3rd person ive heard say that today. Things are looking up! :D

07/30/2004 07:20:13 PM · #15

Yeah, that was good, specially when contrasted against his opponent. :) But what was even better is how genuine John Kerry seemed. One of the best lines was, I don't wear my religion on my sleeve... and how we shouldn't ask God to be on our side, but -- in stead -- pray that we be on God's side (courtesy of Abraham Lincoln).

Originally posted by louddog:

did you hear from his speach that he's a war hero? I think he mentioned that.

frychikn

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07/30/2004 08:31:17 PM · #16

[quote=darcy] and i believe john edwards pointed out in his speech that the way they would pay for their proposed programs would be to *gasp* tax the rich.

"Taxing the rich" sounds real nice and all; the problem with the Democrat version of this is that they seem to consider anybody making over, say, about $25,000 a year as rich and fair game for taxing. The real rich people simply hire top-flight tax lawyers to open the loopholes for them no matter how high the 'official' tax rates might be, while the not-really-rich middle class workers get stuck with the majority of the tax burden.

07/30/2004 08:43:51 PM · #17

Originally posted by frychikn:

"Taxing the rich" sounds real nice and all; the problem with the Democrat version of this is that they seem to consider anybody making over, say, about $25,000 a year as rich and fair game for taxing. The real rich people simply hire top-flight tax lawyers to open the loopholes for them no matter how high the 'official' tax rates might be, while the not-really-rich middle class workers get stuck with the majority of the tax burden.

Hate to be so blunt, but you're either woefully misinformed or utterly deceitful.

The Democratic party, under John Kerry, has called for repealing Bush's tax give-away to those individuals making over $200,000 a year.

"And let me tell you what we won't do: we won't raise taxes on the middle class. You've heard a lot of false charges about this in recent months. So let me say straight out what I will do as President: I will cut middle class taxes. I will reduce the tax burden on small business. And I will roll back the tax cuts for the wealthiest individuals who make over $200,000 a year, so we can invest in job creation, health care and education."

You can read the full text here.

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07/30/2004 08:43:53 PM · #18

Originally posted by frychikn:

He said people who make over $200,000 a year in his speech.

I believe there is the whole speech to download from //www.johnkerry.com

Cam

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07/30/2004 08:45:27 PM · #19

Originally posted by frychikn:

Thats not right...he wants to tax the top 2% of money earners...and thats people that make over about 200k.

But guess what, those are the people that open business, hire more employees, expand business...and most of all buy lots of stuff. Lots of stuff that regular Joes manufacture, sevice and make thier living by.

Olyuzi

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07/30/2004 09:04:59 PM · #20

I didn't hear his speech, except for excerpts on the news, but hasn't Kerry already pledged to increase our military presence in Iraq by 40,000 troops? I don't think I would be for that. Besides which, where is he going to get 40,000 more enlisted men/women? Sounds to me like whoever gets in, we're going to be subjected to a conscription because right now there's a big problem with getting enough troops.

Message edited by author 2004-07-30 21:09:49.

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07/30/2004 09:11:35 PM · #21

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

I didn't hear his speech, except for excerpts on the news, but hasn't Kerry already pledged to increase our military presence in Iraq by 40,000 troops? I don't think I would be for that.

Not in Iraq. The overall number of troops in the military as a whole.

Sounds like a good idea, since the military is currently recalling musicians from the IRR. BTW, these are people who have fulfilled their commitment to serve their country.