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08/26/2004 01:19:52 AM · #26
A professional is someone that has an air of confidence in his craft.

It has nothing to do with if you are getting paid or not -- after all, an amateur can get lucky and a photog-for-hire can starve.

David
If you consider yourself professional, you are.
08/26/2004 01:30:15 AM · #27
a pro is like my friends uncle who is the photogopher for the dallas cowboys cheerleaders :):):)
08/26/2004 01:35:27 AM · #28
Originally posted by RobCoursey:

Get it? Amature spelling for amateur work? (*insert snickering here*)

I thought it was a typo of the missing infrastructure for the Venus de Milo ...

Message edited by author 2004-08-26 01:35:46.
08/26/2004 10:57:07 PM · #29
How about - when other people start referring to you as a professional photographer? For example, I was recently commissioned - in return for free publicity - to shoot a photo for the cover of one of our local newspapers. The byline for the cover photo referred to me as a professional photographer even though I did not claim to be one.

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08/26/2004 11:41:59 PM · #30
It depends on why you need "professional" defined. If you want to enter a photo in a contest (e.g., a local fair) that has professional and amateur divisions, read their definitions carefully.

For tax purposes, I think the distinction is whether you intend to make a profit, not whether you consider yourself to be a "professional". If you want to start a photography business, you should probably get advice from a tax lawyer. If not, photography is considered a "hobby" (even if you consider yourself professional); you must still report any income, but you can only deduct expenses up to that amount. (This is U.S. law, which confuses me enough; I have no idea how it works elsewhere.)

If it is just for yourself, define it however you want!
08/27/2004 12:20:16 AM · #31
A professional photographer would make a 'specific portion' of their income from their photography. I've checked out quite a few photo contests and that seems to be their defintion of a professional. I think I was once given the number of 20% of your income.
08/27/2004 12:35:17 AM · #32
Originally posted by luv2photo:

A professional photographer would make a 'specific portion' of their income from their photography. I've checked out quite a few photo contests and that seems to be their defintion of a professional. I think I was once given the number of 20% of your income.


Located this posted by a VERY well know maker of Professinal Film..."definition of Professional (defined as 5% or more of your personal income derived from photographic activity) or Advanced Amateur (defined as less than 5% of your personal income derived from photographic activity) level and a category of submission as listed in item #2 above."
08/27/2004 12:39:47 AM · #33
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

Function: adjective

2nd
a : participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs
b : having a particular profession as a permanent career

c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return
08/27/2004 11:14:31 PM · #34
MSN Encarta

I looked it up too :} I thought line 2 fit I guess, and might be 4 too lol
professional
pro·fes·sion·al

adjective

1. of a profession: relating to or belonging to a profession


2. following occupation as paid job: engaged in an occupation as a paid job rather than as a hobby


3. very competent: showing a high degree of skill or competence


4. doing something habitually: habitually, and usually annoyingly, indulging in a particular activity

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