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03/02/2013 01:50:45 AM · #1 |
| ...she says while sadly reviewing her images... |
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03/02/2013 01:56:28 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by pamb:
...she says while sadly reviewing her images... |
Did you shoot raw mode..? editing processing |
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03/02/2013 02:07:54 AM · #3 |
| Yo. Thanks for the reminder. I am continually mixing up the editing levels. It must be my youth. |
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03/02/2013 07:38:07 AM · #4 |
| Thanks for the reminder to skip this one. |
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03/02/2013 08:05:27 AM · #5 |
| I set my camera to raw + jpg when the challenge came out, but I have two sensor spots I CANNOT get rid of - really hard to work with in a light on white challenge :) |
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03/02/2013 08:16:19 AM · #6 |
Thanks.
Is a white subject on white background DNMC? |
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03/02/2013 08:47:19 AM · #7 |
| i think "white" qualifies as "light"? i can't see white on white being dnmc. |
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03/03/2013 01:45:24 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by FourPointX:
... I can't see white on white ... |
If all pixels in the frame are pure white (255/255/255), then it is impossible to separate subject from background. I had a few shots like that from accidentally setting a flash too strong, but it may not be optimal to submit a pure white patch for this challenge.
What we think of as white on white images actually are light grey on white, or white on light grey, or some variation of the theme (in Photoshop, the "info" window allows confirmation of exact readings at pixel or near pixel level). The book Light, Science, and Magic has a section on how to get images to look approximately white on white, but it is easier said than done. Minimal editing rules make it harder to achieve. I'm very greatful to pamb for her reminder about the rule set, which I had not noticed until (luckily) reading this thread shortly before shooting for the challenge.
"Light on White" suggests that the background should be closer to white (255/255/255) than the subject, but voter attitudes are impossible to predict accurately.
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03/03/2013 02:02:36 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by pamb:
...she says while sadly reviewing her images... |
Yeah, realized that after too. I doubt I'll reshoot. |
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03/03/2013 02:51:03 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by nam:
I set my camera to raw + jpg when the challenge came out, but I have two sensor spots I CANNOT get rid of - really hard to work with in a light on white challenge :) |
Must have been a lot of sensor dust/dirt showing up in challenges ... I swear this is Langdons way to make us clean our equipment .... There's that. |
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03/03/2013 02:54:25 PM · #11 |
Shot yesterday. Got rid of the spots - they were on the lens and not the sensor, apparently. duh
Unfortunately I was indoors with artificial lighting and no way of moving the subject so though I tried every white balance setting I had, I never got a good, white background and it was horribly noisy because of the iso I had to use - and that despite using 1.8 and 2.8 on two different lenses which gave me quite unsatisfactory focus. People talk about how much they learn from minimal challenges, but what I learned this time is that I shouldn't even try for a challenge in which white balance is critical when the subject is indoors and I can't control the lighting LOL |
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03/03/2013 03:06:37 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by nam:
People talk about how much they learn from minimal challenges, but what I learned this time is that I shouldn't even try for a challenge in which white balance is critical when the subject is indoors and I can't control the lighting LOL |
Minimal Editing allows direct conversion to grayscale ... |
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03/03/2013 03:11:04 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by nam:
People talk about how much they learn from minimal challenges, but what I learned this time is that I shouldn't even try for a challenge in which white balance is critical when the subject is indoors and I can't control the lighting LOL |
Minimal Editing allows direct conversion to grayscale ... |
And you can also set your WB to anything you want before you snap. |
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03/03/2013 03:13:45 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by nam:
People talk about how much they learn from minimal challenges, but what I learned this time is that I shouldn't even try for a challenge in which white balance is critical when the subject is indoors and I can't control the lighting LOL |
Minimal Editing allows direct conversion to grayscale ... |
And you can also set your WB to anything you want before you snap. |
Originally posted by nam:
... though I tried every white balance setting I had ... |
Did you try a "Custom" setting, shooting a white/gray card under your lights?
Message edited by author 2013-03-03 15:15:09. |
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03/03/2013 03:51:43 PM · #15 |
I forgot about the possibility of converting to grayscale. Thanks. Will check out my best with that in mind.
I read up on custom setting before even leaving the house but couldn't figure it out. When I tried at home, the results doing what I understood to do were worse, not better. I need to practice on that.
And as I said I often shot the same subject with several different in-camera setting, hoping for a good result. There were none that I thought acceptable.
May try something entirely different this afternoon at home.
Thanks for the ideas and reminders, though. |
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03/03/2013 03:57:32 PM · #16 |
| Can you set your camera on manual and hold down the shutter in minimal editing? Like maybe a 4 -6 second exposure? |
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03/03/2013 04:02:35 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nam:
I set my camera to raw + jpg when the challenge came out, but I have two sensor spots I CANNOT get rid of - really hard to work with in a light on white challenge :) |
Must have been a lot of sensor dust/dirt showing up in challenges ... I swear this is Langdons way to make us clean our equipment .... There's that. |
ha! there's that indeed. |
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03/03/2013 04:03:29 PM · #18 |
While we are on the subject...cleaning. How do you clean your lens...what do you use...I have a variety of things that I do and use. But no " magic" combination per say. I have a "special" cloth (microfiber) that I try to use but it leaves so much lint on the lens...I usually just breathe on the lens (fog it up) and use a soft linen cloth that seems to wk best. I'm wondering about using a glass cleaner of some sort and what kind of cloth you use?
I use a sensor cleaning kit for my sensor (haven't used on my new D7000 yet) it works like a charm. (When I cleaned my D80) |
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03/03/2013 04:05:05 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by kitkatklok:
Can you set your camera on manual and hold down the shutter in minimal editing? Like maybe a 4 -6 second exposure? |
Yes, you can do anything you want with your camera in minimal with the only rules being it's one capture, it's a jpeg file, and you perform no after-capture image editing. |
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03/03/2013 04:05:41 PM · #20 |
| Thanks for the answer! :) |
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03/03/2013 04:45:55 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by kitkatklok:
Can you set your camera on manual and hold down the shutter in minimal editing? Like maybe a 4 -6 second exposure? |
Yes, you can do anything you want with your camera in minimal with the only rules being it's one capture, it's a jpeg file, and you perform no after-capture image editing. |
Other than rotating by 90 degree increments, sharpening using the most basic tool, converting to grayscale, or resizing once that is. ;) |
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03/03/2013 04:47:27 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
While we are on the subject...cleaning. How do you clean your lens...what do you use...I have a variety of things that I do and use. But no " magic" combination per say. I have a "special" cloth (microfiber) that I try to use but it leaves so much lint on the lens...I usually just breathe on the lens (fog it up) and use a soft linen cloth that seems to wk best. I'm wondering about using a glass cleaner of some sort and what kind of cloth you use?
I use a sensor cleaning kit for my sensor (haven't used on my new D7000 yet) it works like a charm. (When I cleaned my D80) |
Just go grab these, you'll be good for a year or two, and they work for tons of other things too.
//www.amazon.com/Zeiss-Pre-Moistened-Lens-Cloths-Wipes/dp/B0030HG054
ETA: The trick with these is to buff the lens until the cloth dries - that way it won't leave even the faintest of streaks.
Message edited by author 2013-03-03 16:48:39. |
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03/03/2013 04:59:53 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
While we are on the subject...cleaning. How do you clean your lens...what do you use...I have a variety of things that I do and use. But no " magic" combination per say. I have a "special" cloth (microfiber) that I try to use but it leaves so much lint on the lens...I usually just breathe on the lens (fog it up) and use a soft linen cloth that seems to wk best. I'm wondering about using a glass cleaner of some sort and what kind of cloth you use?
I use a sensor cleaning kit for my sensor (haven't used on my new D7000 yet) it works like a charm. (When I cleaned my D80) |
Just go grab these, you'll be good for a year or two, and they work for tons of other things too.
//www.amazon.com/Zeiss-Pre-Moistened-Lens-Cloths-Wipes/dp/B0030HG054
ETA: The trick with these is to buff the lens until the cloth dries - that way it won't leave even the faintest of streaks. |
Good tip.
And if you need them fast, they are sold in the Vision Center of most Walmart stores... I got a box of 100 and I've still not used them all on many years.
Be careful while the lens is still damp (before the alcohol evaporates). In that brief period it's a lint (and pet hair) magnet! |
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03/03/2013 05:46:39 PM · #24 |
| So, what would constitute 'light'? I guess what I'm saying is I took some photos but the color seems to be more prominent than I thought, even though the majority of the photo is the white background. Ugh. I can't do it again - I may skip this one... |
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03/03/2013 06:03:19 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
While we are on the subject...cleaning. How do you clean your lens...what do you use...I have a variety of things that I do and use. But no " magic" combination per say. I have a "special" cloth (microfiber) that I try to use but it leaves so much lint on the lens...I usually just breathe on the lens (fog it up) and use a soft linen cloth that seems to wk best. I'm wondering about using a glass cleaner of some sort and what kind of cloth you use?
I use a sensor cleaning kit for my sensor (haven't used on my new D7000 yet) it works like a charm. (When I cleaned my D80) |
Just go grab these, you'll be good for a year or two, and they work for tons of other things too.
//www.amazon.com/Zeiss-Pre-Moistened-Lens-Cloths-Wipes/dp/B0030HG054
ETA: The trick with these is to buff the lens until the cloth dries - that way it won't leave even the faintest of streaks. |
I have used windex..(don't whip me) and the eyeglass cleaner wipes from Costco but I was worried that it would be to rough ( they actually don't even recommend using them on your eyeglass' (lens manufactor). |
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