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10/13/2004 06:26:24 PM · #1 |
Hello.
Here's my first serious attempt at "studio" portraits. It was only my first time so they're not perfect. I'd like to hear your opinions/comments/critiques/etc. Oh, after two days of shooting I realized the ISO was set to 800...  . I kept wondering why the pics with the white background were so bright so I played around with the aperture, but it never occured to me to check the stupid ISO. All the photos were taken with available light from a balcony door with a reflector.The ones with the white background were also taken with a Sigma EF 500 DG Super with a Lumiquest Big Bounce. Maybe I'll get me one of the 80-20 thingies so that less light bounces. Looking forwards to comments!
June
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10/13/2004 06:31:49 PM · #2 |
I think they look very nice. I've not done much portraiture, but from what I have done I find its better to let the model choose the poses so it looks more natural. In some of your shots the girl looks uncomfortable or unnatural. Also, maybe getting down to their level a little more will help. The one with the fruit looks like you are looking down on her. I still think these are really nice shots!
'u' is my fav.
Message edited by author 2004-10-13 18:33:00.
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10/13/2004 06:38:46 PM · #3 |
Hey, thanks for the response! Believe it or not, she had an In Style and Vogue magazine with her....a most of the poses she thought of herself. She REALLY REALLY wanted me to take picture G.
June
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10/13/2004 06:48:18 PM · #4 |
I think that they are all really nice. Good poses, and composition. The only 2 flaws that I see are.......on the black background, her hair almost blends in too much(a extra light or reflector would highlight tha top of the head and make for a much more pleasing look), and on the white background, there is too much of a halo effect, which means that the white was much brighter than the subject. They are a great effort, and you learn as you go. I have learned little things like that as I go, and still learn little things every time I shoot!
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10/13/2004 07:03:54 PM · #5 |
hehehe I was just going to say how I didn't like pictur G it was like someone was making her pose sexy LoL! In retrospect I realize that this kind of picture is what most little girls want now :(!
Picture N is very nice and love the expression, U is also great but personally i dont like the lighting...or maybe it's just the dress LOL! I would love to see that in Black and white with just the roses red! :)
But she has the 5yo smile on all the pics! (you know when they've just realize that they controle when and how they smile) I do LOVE the smile on the last pic!
Overall great pics :) And lighting good and just keep at it!! :) |
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10/13/2004 07:19:41 PM · #6 |
The lighting looks very professional. I agree that some of the poses look a bit unnatural, but that's hard to control.
One thing, if she were my daughter I wouldn't want shots l, n, o or p posted on the internet, she's old enough that they are a bit risky and not quite as innocent looking as they might be to you and her parents, you never know who's looking at them. But, that could just be my protective mother side coming out. |
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10/13/2004 07:23:23 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Paige:
The lighting looks very professional. I agree that some of the poses look a bit unnatural, but that's hard to control.
One thing, if she were my daughter I wouldn't want shots l, n, o or p posted on the internet, she's old enough that they are a bit risky and not quite as innocent looking as they might be to you and her parents, you never know who's looking at them. But, that could just be my protective mother side coming out. |
I'm not a mother and I had the same thought. Those shots you mentioned just aren't sitting well with me.
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10/13/2004 07:30:39 PM · #8 |
| yeah I agree, but I don't think those pics are sexual in anyway but you never do know who's looking! I think N is one of the best pic though and very innocent, children are shown in this way on many photographing sites, but it is a risk :/ |
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10/13/2004 08:22:18 PM · #9 |
| I have to agree with the nude shots. I don't care to see a nude from a child. It could get you into to trouble, especially at her age. I don't mind the others. I really like v, but maybe less contrast and M is perfect. I also like b. |
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10/13/2004 09:36:46 PM · #10 |
I like c. The wide lens is enlarging her face and head at such proximity, effectively shrinking her body and making a toy out of the plastic chair she's seated on. It's a playful effect which, I feel, suits the subject. It's funny too.
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10/13/2004 09:42:22 PM · #11 |
| Nothing much to add about the portraits except to agree that the nudes should not be on the intranet. I can't really imagine any parent wanting nudes for the family album of a little girl that age, they certainly shouldn't be posted for any creep on the intranet to be looking at. |
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10/14/2004 09:40:27 AM · #12 |
Thanks for your comments! While I really appreciate every comment, I have to say that I don't agree with the "nude" comments. She wasnt completely nude at the shoot and I did my best not show anything...except for a couple pics that I didnt realize werent covering everything. She's actually my sister and what my mom had in mind was something like picture M to hang on the wall. She ended up deciding on i for that. Once again, thanks for your comments.
June
BTW, N is one of my favorites, as is O.
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10/14/2004 10:02:24 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by kdkaboom:
Originally posted by Paige:
The lighting looks very professional. I agree that some of the poses look a bit unnatural, but that's hard to control.
One thing, if she were my daughter I wouldn't want shots l, n, o or p posted on the internet, she's old enough that they are a bit risky and not quite as innocent looking as they might be to you and her parents, you never know who's looking at them. But, that could just be my protective mother side coming out. |
I'm not a mother and I had the same thought. Those shots you mentioned just aren't sitting well with me. |
As a father, I semi-agree. These shots are wonderful and will certainly be a family treasure. But the world has a lot of sick folks on it. I would be very careful about sharing these on the internet. I don't object to the photos at all and think they are wonderful, artistic, and in very good taste... I just feel that having them on a internet site with no password protection is risking getting them into the hands of sick, demented individuals.
The portraits are great! I like your idea of using poses from magazines :) While the hair blended in with the background a bit, I'm not sure that was a completely bad thing... I liked the effect :) Great work!
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10/14/2004 10:19:25 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by chiqui74:
While I really appreciate every comment, I have to say that I don't agree with the "nude" comments. She wasnt completely nude at the shoot and I did my best not show anything...except for a couple pics that I didnt realize werent covering everything. She's actually my sister and what my mom had in mind was something like picture M to hang on the wall. |
No matter what your intentions are, it is prohibited in most countries to show nude pictures of under-aged on the Internet even with the written approval of their parents. What others are trying to say (and I support them) is - you should be carefull. That's all.
If I can recall well, even DPC has something about it in their rules.
Good luck with your studio work
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10/14/2004 10:29:05 AM · #15 |
| notable from the available light sitting are f. h. and j. The hand on chin shots less effective for a true expression - of the strobe lit photos m. & n. are good. However I have to agree with the mothers scolding. A studio would be in jeopardy for this. |
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10/14/2004 11:29:27 AM · #16 |
I think if a subject is past the age where it's acceptable to just be in a diaper but yet not old enough to get in to a bar, then nudes are inappropriate. And as someone stated, it's quite illegal.
My cousin did nude shots of her husband and 4 month old son and had to erase many because they appeared very inappropriate - especially if you didn't know the relationship between them.
I personally, thought the shots were good until I saw the last one. We all can appreciate art, but the law has stipulations about this. EVen if you don't agree with the popular opinion on this thread - you can't argue with the law. (unfortunately) |
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10/14/2004 11:38:26 AM · #17 |
| They look good overall. I too have to agree I was shocked to see nudes of such a young child! I do not think these are in good taste. One question for followup, what appature was used? |
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10/14/2004 11:43:46 AM · #18 |
| Lovely lighting and very well thought out and taken. I love the nudes and enjoyed seeing them, but I do know people who have found some of their children's pictures used in rude ways. Just so you and your parents know not to get upset when someone emails a vulgar picture they came upon when browsing the internet. It is quite a shock the first time that happens. But, you are free to post whatever pictures you feel like posting. Could I at least talk you into posting them in a protected folder like your workshop here or one you can create on pbase? At least that way you will know who had access to them. Probably to late at this point. |
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10/14/2004 02:30:14 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by chiqui74:
Thanks for your comments! While I really appreciate every comment, I have to say that I don't agree with the "nude" comments. She wasnt completely nude at the shoot and I did my best not show anything...except for a couple pics that I didnt realize werent covering everything. She's actually my sister and what my mom had in mind was something like picture M to hang on the wall. She ended up deciding on i for that. Once again, thanks for your comments.
June
BTW, N is one of my favorites, as is O. |
So June, that's 11 people telling you that the "nude" photos could be used in the wrong way and 4 people who chose not to say anything. Not one person who posted stated that they were appropriate for strangers to look at. I know she's your sister, it's hard for you to understand our point of view because of it. They are great shots for your home, but not for the internet. Don't you want to protect your sister?
Does your Mom know that they are on the internet for anyone to see? If she does perhaps you should let her see this thread...... |
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10/14/2004 02:41:53 PM · #20 |
| Paige. She took them down. It was probably her joy in having made some great pictures that clouded her judgement for a time. Happens to everyone from time to time. |
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11/15/2004 11:04:56 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Paige:
So June, that's 11 people telling you that the "nude" photos could be used in the wrong way and 4 people who chose not to say anything. Not one person who posted stated that they were appropriate for strangers to look at. I know she's your sister, it's hard for you to understand our point of view because of it. They are great shots for your home, but not for the internet. Don't you want to protect your sister?
Does your Mom know that they are on the internet for anyone to see? If she does perhaps you should let her see this thread...... |
I didn't see the photos, but:
1. Any picture can be "used the wrong way"
2. There's nothing shameful about nudity
3. "Protect" her? From what?
4. It is NOT illegal, to the best of my knowledge, in ANY state, to photograph a child nude.
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. I kept wondering why the pics with the white background were so bright so I played around with the aperture, but it never occured to me to check the stupid ISO. All the photos were taken with available light from a balcony door with a reflector.The ones with the white background were also taken with a Sigma EF 500 DG Super with a Lumiquest Big Bounce. Maybe I'll get me one of the 80-20 thingies so that less light bounces. Looking forwards to comments!
