| Author | Thread |
|
|
11/05/2004 01:22:46 AM · #1 |
Is it just me or does anyone else think the saturation level on the D-70 is very light?... even in the max'd out vivid mode.
I wish they just had a 1-5 +/- scale to work with...
CJS |
|
|
|
11/05/2004 02:16:22 AM · #2 |
I haven't noticed that but I'm shooting in RAW and can adjust it anyway.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 02:20:47 AM · #3 |
| Seems fine to me, even when in 'normal' mode. Are you using an LCD monitor? The contrast and saturation look much lower on my laptop LCD than on a regular CRT. |
|
|
|
11/05/2004 04:53:41 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by CactusJackSlade:
Is it just me or does anyone else think the saturation level on the D-70 is very light?... even in the max'd out vivid mode.
|
Yeah, I agree with you. I wouldn't say very light, but in vivid mode I'd like to see more saturation. But then again I don't shoot raw, just jpeg.
After I got used to the nikon gamut, I think the colors come out pretty lovely compared to, for examle, canon g5. I have taken some shots in raw mode and those seem to have more "dynamic depth", but havent really looked into this. This might be the fact that I am using infranView to read NEF files and I dont know what bayes pattern interpolation algorithm it uses. Propably some basic one.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 06:06:09 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Gurilla:
I haven't noticed that but I'm shooting in RAW and can adjust it anyway. |
Same here.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 06:13:26 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Gurilla:
I haven't noticed that but I'm shooting in RAW and can adjust it anyway. |
Me2
Plus I use FM Digital Velvia after sending the developed RAW to Photoshop.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 06:32:04 AM · #7 |
Try useing the Shade WB mode. That should help with your color sat levels.
Clara |
|
|
|
11/05/2004 07:52:11 AM · #8 |
It's odd that saturation is the one custom setting that doesn't have the +/- fine tuning for JPG shots. I thought it was a bit flat as well.
You might want to check out Fotogenic's article on custom curves. There is a very large following of D70/D100 users who have adopted the "white wedding" curve. I haven't tried it myself, but only because I'm back to using RAW now that I've discovered Bibble 4.0.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 07:54:33 AM · #9 |
I turn all the in camera processing off, so I can control all the adjustments myself in photoshop. The pictures are a little dull and flat coming out of the camera, but isn't the "digital darkroom" what digital photography is all about anyway?
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 07:59:56 AM · #10 |
One more interesting reference..
OutbackPhoto has an essay on Improving Contrast and Saturation. The last paragraph states:
Be careful that your photos don't get too punchy. Also photos directly contrasted with strong saturation photos look even flatter than they are. This is one reason that natural saturated photos are received as flat because we are bombarded with to many over saturated photos today (the heavy metal of photography).
Interesting thought... I like the analogy to heavy metal; Makes you wonder if over saturated shots are helping to bring out what's there, or altering perception of nature.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 08:03:59 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by cbeller:
I turn all the in camera processing off, so I can control all the adjustments myself in photoshop. The pictures are a little dull and flat coming out of the camera, but isn't the "digital darkroom" what digital photography is all about anyway? |
I take a different position... Digital photography, like all forms of photography, is about taking pictures. The better my shots come out of the camera, the less time I have to spend in any darkroom, and the more time I can spend creating new images and experiencing the world through my viewfinder.
There is of course a balance between image quality and post processing time, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the any form of photography is about the darkroom.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 08:09:51 AM · #12 |
I guess it's just personal choice. I want full control over my image. I trust my eye, more than my camera. :)
Originally posted by cghubbell:
Originally posted by cbeller:
I turn all the in camera processing off, so I can control all the adjustments myself in photoshop. The pictures are a little dull and flat coming out of the camera, but isn't the "digital darkroom" what digital photography is all about anyway? |
I take a different position... Digital photography, like all forms of photography, is about taking pictures. The better my shots come out of the camera, the less time I have to spend in any darkroom, and the more time I can spend creating new images and experiencing the world through my viewfinder.
There is of course a balance between image quality and post processing time, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the any form of photography is about the darkroom. |
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 11:57:45 AM · #13 |
I shoot almost only in RAW now. Even when just knocking out shots (cuz I forget). If you want it to look a specific way, right out of camera. Set it up that way. You can adjust the saturation, sharpness, etc. Have you tried the Direct to Print choice?
I ave the White Wedding curve in the camera and it does lighten the highlights. Will do a comparison (right out of camera) here in a few.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 12:47:22 PM · #14 |
I just got done with a photography class at a local community college - the instructor wanted us to use slide film, but I convinced him to let me try with my D70. I had slides made up at //www.colorslide.com. They came out very well and I saw no saturation problems compared to slides from real film cameras. (I don't think the digital to slide process would have saturated the color - the digital image is projected onto slide film and then processed in the normal way.)
One thing I learned in the class is to get off the automatic metering - I got far better results shooting on M and making intelligent exposure decisions.
Message edited by author 2004-11-05 12:48:33. |
|
|
|
11/05/2004 01:07:57 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by joebok:
One thing I learned in the class is to get off the automatic metering - I got far better results shooting on M and making intelligent exposure decisions. |
Yup.
At the moment I've got +1/3th exposure compensation on by default.
But what I've really got to learn now is to use the spot meter and some compensation intelligence to get spot on exposures.
|
|
|
|
11/05/2004 01:16:05 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by joebok:
One thing I learned in the class is to get off the automatic metering - I got far better results shooting on M and making intelligent exposure decisions. |
Yup.
At the moment I've got +1/3th exposure compensation on by default.
But what I've really got to learn now is to use the spot meter and some compensation intelligence to get spot on exposures. |
If I remember right, the White Wedding curve compensates for this. |
|
|
|
11/05/2004 01:24:42 PM · #17 |
I loaded the White Wedding Curve into my D70 last week. Although I was convinced that RAW did not take any presets into consideration, I have noticed those hard to get over/under exposed sky/land shots seem to have much more leeway and I'm not blowing out the highlights anywhere near as often.
The saturation is now set to normal and seems much better to me (especailly since I now lie to my eyes on the screen by setting my monitor to the first level of digital vibrance) This way I'm forced to under saturate the picture that I typically have over saturated. |
|
|
|
11/05/2004 01:42:03 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Yup.
At the moment I've got +1/3th exposure compensation on by default.
But what I've really got to learn now is to use the spot meter and some compensation intelligence to get spot on exposures. |
The text book we used was "John Shaw's Nature Photography Field Guide" - I found the chapter on exposure to provide exactly that "compensation intelligence" you mentioned. |
|
Home -
Challenges -
Community -
League -
Photos -
Cameras -
Lenses -
Learn -
Help -
Terms of Use -
Privacy -
Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2025 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Current Server Time: 03/11/2025 02:19:36 PM EDT.
