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12/10/2023 02:06:41 PM · #1 |
We have DQ'd the former Blue Ribbon image in the November FS because an Extended Editing technique was used to alter the figure in the image: he was removed, flipped, and replaced, which isn't allowed in Standard Editing.
Congrats to our new ribboner and HM.
Message edited by author 2023-12-10 14:07:12. |
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12/10/2023 05:53:56 PM · #2 |
Well that answers a question I'd had.
I submitted this to Barry for his thread discussing editing rules a few months ago, but the thread appears to have died out before he got to my sample. I had moved and enlarged the bird for the sake of composition. Pretty much the same thing as the image was DQ'd for in this instance.
 
It was a wonderful image, nonetheless. Got an 8 from me. |
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12/10/2023 08:32:12 PM · #3 |
| Gah. Sorry Steve. Thought that had been addressed. We did discuss it, and yes, it was determined as a non-legit edit. Now I need to revisit that conversation. :-} |
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12/11/2023 08:12:36 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
We have DQ'd the former Blue Ribbon image in the November FS because an Extended Editing technique was used to alter the figure in the image: he was removed, flipped, and replaced, which isn't allowed in Standard Editing.
Congrats to our new ribboner and HM. |
This one is especially tough, as the entry for which I won the yellow in extended editing was taken the same day and was a basic edit. I also took another photo with the subject facing the way I wanted the same day in the same position and chose the photo I did to practice my editing skills. lol! I am not much of an editor overall so unfortunately thought that edits within one frame (not combining multiple exposures) were acceptable within certain bounds - clearly I missed what those bounds are. But, it̢۪s 100% on me to carefully read rules and ask questions in advance if there̢۪s something I don̢۪t know. So, lesson learned.
I do have another question so I can hopefully avoid a similar fate in the future - I also did some minor cloud clean up in the far right hand side of the photo in which I cloned from other clouds in the photo. Would this also be considered a DQ able offense in standard but not extended editing? Thanks! |
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12/11/2023 09:03:25 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by noraneko:
I wanted the same day in the same position and chose the photo I did to practice my editing skills. |
the fact that your editing skills were good enough to get a blue ribbon in the first place is more important than whether or not it gets DQ'd.
Originally posted by noraneko:
But, it̢۪s 100% on me to carefully read rules and ask questions in advance if there̢۪s something I don̢۪t know. So, lesson learned. |
read what? there will always be edge cases. Sometimes they let you create and modify elements, and sometimes they don't. There will always be edge cases and judgment calls. DPCers clamor for clear, simple rules. These do not exist. |
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12/11/2023 09:40:56 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by noraneko:
I also did some minor cloud clean up in the far right hand side of the photo in which I cloned from other clouds in the photo. Would this also be considered a DQ able offense in standard but not extended editing? Thanks! |
I believe that is ok because you are replacing the background with what would otherwise be there. SC can confirm or deny. |
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12/11/2023 10:53:43 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by noraneko:
I also did some minor cloud clean up in the far right hand side of the photo in which I cloned from other clouds in the photo. Would this also be considered a DQ able offense in standard but not extended editing? Thanks! |
I believe that is ok because you are replacing the background with what would otherwise be there. SC can confirm or deny. |
That's generally correct: if you need to patch clouds that's pretty common, but beware of just *adding* clouds by whatever means to an area of the sky that HAD no clouds. You can't just look at a sky with one cloud in it and say "Gee, I wish there were more clouds!" and clone 'em in... On the other hand, in the common instance where the sun is BEHIND clouds and burning a smallish area into complete overexposure, you can certainly work on patching that up because there actually ARE clouds there, the sun has just blasted them out of the gamut. Hopefully this makes sense... |
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