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12/04/2024 07:35:27 AM · #1 |
Is the Duotone challenge description correct?
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Your submission should only consist of two tones (black/white, sepia, etc)
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I think black/white and sepia are not duotone but monochrome techniques. For example black/white is just shades of gray, i.e. a single color.
wikipedia
Although in previous duotone challenges I see many monochrome and even color images ......
Message edited by author 2024-12-04 07:44:24. |
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12/04/2024 07:44:34 AM · #2 |
Duotones, Duotones II, Duotones III, Duotones IV, Duotones V, Duotones VI ... all had the exact same challenge description.
Guess I'd look at prior challenge results to see how those worked out? |
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12/04/2024 08:19:04 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Duotones, Duotones II, Duotones III, Duotones IV, Duotones V, Duotones VI ... all had the exact same challenge description.
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We can all learn from prior mistakes ...
Just kidding....
I can understand a flexible interpretation of "duotone" since it would be hard to check anyway and you can't stop people voting even on color images (as in some previous challenges) , but the point of a challenge is to challenge oneself and b/w, sepia seems a bit too easy. Duotone adds another dimension since you need to choose two colors that work well together in your particular image.
Maybe force people to explain the processing they did and the two colors they chose? |
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12/04/2024 09:37:23 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by willem:
Maybe force people to explain the processing they did and the two colors they chose? |
Fun in theory, but won't happen in reality.
Perhaps a discussion could be started after the challenge is finished and hope that participants chime in with details of their entry, etc.? |
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12/04/2024 01:50:15 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Perhaps a discussion could be started after the challenge is finished and hope that participants chime in with details of their entry, etc.? |
I've always wondered why this doesn't happen after every challenge.
FWIW the JPEG format does not support a true duotone mode -- you need to convert to RGB color as a final step anyway. |
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12/04/2024 01:52:35 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Perhaps a discussion could be started after the challenge is finished and hope that participants chime in with details of their entry, etc.? |
I've always wondered why this doesn't happen after every challenge. |
Great question! Hmm. |
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12/04/2024 03:46:03 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
FWIW the JPEG format does not support a true duotone mode -- you need to convert to RGB color as a final step anyway. |
Well, yeah, but that's a confusing statement since the final result has to be resized and saved as JPG to enter the challenge... "True Duotone" is pretty much a function of the printing industry, anyway.
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12/04/2024 04:01:29 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
FWIW the JPEG format does not support a true duotone mode -- you need to convert to RGB color as a final step anyway. |
Well, yeah, but that's a confusing statement since the final result has to be resized and saved as JPG to enter the challenge... "True Duotone" is pretty much a function of the printing industry, anyway. |
That's what I meant ( I think). I do (usually) use Photoshop's Duotone mode to make this type of image, but it does have to be converted for any format except separations for printing. |
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12/04/2024 06:05:10 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by willem:
Maybe force people to explain the processing they did and the two colors they chose? |
Fun in theory, but won't happen in reality. …… |
We have sort of done it before, you could rule that the entry’s name has to be the 2 colours used. |
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12/04/2024 06:33:58 PM · #10 |
If those of us interested enough to post here agree to post their processing steps post-challenge, that might be enough critical mass to get others interested as well.
In the site's early days, when there was more of an emphasis on learning than ribbons, I used to put pretty detailed editing in the notes when submitting an entry, but I've kinda given it up since nobody seems to care anyway ... :-(
ETA: and yeah, that's a terrible description of a duotone. :-(
Message edited by author 2024-12-04 18:35:32. |
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12/04/2024 07:10:18 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
ETA: and yeah, that's a terrible description of a duotone. :-( |
Give me a better one and I'll change it. :-) |
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12/04/2024 07:35:53 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
ETA: and yeah, that's a terrible description of a duotone. :-( |
Give me a better one and I'll change it. :-) |
For Photoshop · For PaintShop Pro |
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12/05/2024 05:07:35 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
ETA: and yeah, that's a terrible description of a duotone. :-( |
Give me a better one and I'll change it. :-) |
For Photoshop · For PaintShop Pro |
You might want to add to the Photoshop instructions that the duotone option will only show up for images with an 8 bit channel. So if it is 16 bit you first need to convert to 8-bit. |
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12/05/2024 07:03:38 AM · #14 |
| Ok. Description stays as is for now (it's already up and running). Next time, it's going to be "N/A - Google it". :-) |
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12/05/2024 07:08:26 AM · #15 |
| Wow. You guys are smart! I've never given it much thought. Looking forward to reading more about it post challenge. |
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12/05/2024 01:22:21 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Ok. Description stays as is for now (it's already up and running). Next time, it's going to be "N/A - Google it". :-) |
Possibly this..... "create an image in two tones or colors" |
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12/05/2024 01:38:20 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by willem:
You might want to add to the Photoshop instructions that the duotone option will only show up for images with an 8 bit channel. So if it is 16 bit you first need to convert to 8-bit. |
You just did! (Here anyway -- I don't think I can edit the tutorial.) ;-) |
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12/26/2024 05:17:27 AM · #18 |
This was my original image for the duotone challenge
This was the same image converted to regular duotone (with the Photoshop process), with bright red and dark yellow and an elevated s-curve applied to the red.
I thoughed this looked to much like a regular flower so I played around with it and inverted the collors and then applied curves to it to soften the color and increase contrast
This was the end result, which I liked because of all the fine structures coming out.
I found it difficult to get an attractive image because of the blend of the two colors that occurs, which was of course also the case when this still was a analog printing process. Must have been a lot of trial and error as well in the past, or a very good understanding of color mix effects. The people who did not experiment with a real duotone process simulation (more than half in this challenge?) I think missed this opportunity, even though the results were sometimes beautiful.
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