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11/23/2004 02:17:56 PM · #1 |
I submitted photos to the three main Stock sites.
istock seems to take the longest to approve a photo.
Is it worth it? I mean...I have some holiday shots and if they don't get approved by Dec. 25th then why even bother with them?
Do you think the older members of those sites have a better chance and are hogging the money?
shutterstock approves the people who have more photos approved then the ones who have less approved.
Is that fair?
Should we start our own stock site and only let dpc members be apart of it? I think so!
How am I supposed to make money off 10 pictures?
Just some thoughts to throw at you?
What bugs you about these stock sites?
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11/23/2004 02:23:45 PM · #2 |
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11/23/2004 02:34:15 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
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Should we start our own stock site and only let dpc members be apart of it? I think so!
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Let's do it! Maybe we could have an option where we check any (or all!) of what's in a portfolio and D&L make it downloadable (for a price, of course) as stock... That would save the upload time.
Now, what about approval? Or do we allow anything??
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11/23/2004 02:37:20 PM · #4 |
I think it would run so much smoother if we had a team to approve the photos. I would be part of that team.
I wonder what D and L think about that?
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11/23/2004 02:37:22 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
shutterstock approves the people who have more photos approved then the ones who have less approved.
Is that fair?
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I don't think there's really a whole lot of difference in time between those with more approved and those with less. I was questioning that system when it first came up because, according to what they said, I had a pretty low rate of acceptance. I've still never had to wait more than a day to have my stuff approved.
What I do wonder about there (I don't submit to any other sites) is the quality of what they accept. I've seen some pretty godawful stuff there. I wonder how that affects the site as a whole.
dpc stock is an interesting idea. I wonder what some of the pros and cons are? |
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11/23/2004 02:43:50 PM · #6 |
I have 11 photos at shutterstock and 12 downloads - in 3 weeks. Arcane approval policies and bottlenecks mean that, sometime in the year 2047, I'll get a check for $100 -- YIPPEE!!!
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11/23/2004 02:57:44 PM · #7 |
| Sonja. Even if your Christmas photos get approved after the holiday, they can be left in place for next year and the next year and the next. That's the beauty of stock. You can slowly build up your collection and it keeps earning money year after year. But with istock it's better to think ahead of time. Start valentines and easter now and have them in place for a month or two before you think they will be needed. |
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11/23/2004 02:59:04 PM · #8 |
The only stock site I would ever consider submitting to is //www.corbis.com as I feel they attempt to maintain a very high level of photographic quality.
Also, their pricing structure allows photographers to maintain a selling point that isn't so ludicrous as to dilute the value of their services. Still, it seems to be a very difficult site to break into if you're not a professional with a proven portfolio.
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 14:59:43. |
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11/23/2004 03:20:28 PM · #9 |
| I'm a little dim when it comes to a stock site and the desire to put your stuff onto it in the first place. Can you actually make money on these things? I certainly do not expect to get rich but is it a good way to get some pocket money? Any thoughts? |
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11/23/2004 03:22:19 PM · #10 |
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Submission Guidelines:
We accept all sizes of TRANSPARENCIES (NO PROOFS, PRINTS, OR
NEGATIVES). Images may be horizontal or vertical (Note: For
calendars, the horizontal format is most often used). Photo credit
will be given on each slide per product (except for souvenir
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11/23/2004 03:23:32 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
I'm a little dim when it comes to a stock site and the desire to put your stuff onto it in the first place. Can you actually make money on these things? I certainly do not expect to get rich but is it a good way to get some pocket money? Any thoughts? |
At the rate I'm going, I'll earn about $150 for Istock and $500 for Shutterstock this year. That's $650 of gear I wouldn't otherwise have.
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11/23/2004 03:26:35 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
At the rate I'm going, I'll earn about $150 for Istock and $500 for Shutterstock this year. That's $650 of gear I wouldn't otherwise have.
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Where would you suggest I learn about these things?
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11/23/2004 03:29:23 PM · #13 |
mavrik: how many pictures do you have on each site? how long have you been a member? could you possibly link your shutterstock (or istock) portfolio? i only have 3 images up, so i can understand how i've only sold 20cents worth.. haha - but it's a start. would like to see some examples and info on how much is necessary to bring in a little money.
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 20:06:45.
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11/23/2004 03:33:21 PM · #14 |
Soni
I now have 153 photos at Shutterstock, fast approvals there just a little longer over the weekends as I think they have Sundays off. Very few rejections there as well mainly I think because they don't have a huge amount of files like Istock so fewer "We have enough" rejections.
The longest I have had to wait is about 3 days, must have just missed the cut and then caught in the back log, shortest at Shutterstock was about an hour and that was only a week ago.
20 days at Shutterstock for 65 downloads Woo hoo! And I'm a stock n00bi.
EDIT: Yeah I'd love to see Stock introduced here! Or maybe "Digital Photographic Art" would be a better term for our photos.
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 15:36:25.
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11/23/2004 03:41:42 PM · #15 |
Istock has recently put a stat on their front page with how long the oldest image in the queue has been in the queue so you get a rough idea how long it would take to process your images. I think the other day I saw one in there for 13 days. Istock seems to take the longest with shutterstock approving fairly quickly. Istock is also has a very large collection online with a lot of traffic.
Is it fair that your images are in a queue for 10 days or so? No, but you can still upload the maximum allowable amount every day so technically you could have a turnaround of 10 approved images a day if you are uploading that many.
Is it worth the effort? Once you've uploaded the images you dont have to do anything else but wait. There is no effort in waiting. You move on to the next batch of uploads.
Seasonal deadlines - This is why people upload christmas stock images in July or sooner. A lot of places that use stock images for seasonal promotion has already put together their designs and likely got the stock images months ago. As someone already stated, those images can still be used for future seasons.
The only person who can decide if it is worth your time is yourself. If you only upload a small amount of images every few months and find yourself antsy waiting to be approved and then get frustrated with the whole process then it's likely not going to be worth the hassle. |
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11/23/2004 03:57:31 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by brianlh:
mavrik: how many pictures do you have on each site? how long have you been a member? could you possibly link your shutterstock (or istock) portfolio? i only have 3 images up, so i can understand how i've only sold 20cents worth.. haha - but it's a start. would like to see some examples and info on how much is necessary to bring in a little money. |
I have 68 up on shutterstock and 44 up at Istock. I've been with istock since late May and shutterstock since mid Oct.
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11/23/2004 04:01:45 PM · #17 |
it's all a question of numbers.... the more you upload the more $$ you make. Of course, photo quality and needed themes will usually get you more downloads.
As for a DPC Stock site.... it would just be logical!!!! there's room for everyone!!! I would be willing to help out.
The only problem I see is the interaction with DPC Prints....
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11/23/2004 05:17:53 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I submitted photos to the three main Stock sites. |
Corbis, Getty, Comstock?
Those are the three big boys. They pay well and maintain very professional and established businesses that keeps their photographers interest's first.
istock, shutterstock, etc... are small potatoes that pay pennies. Submitting to these companies drives the price down on stock photos, and is hurting the photography business in general.
It's disappointing that anyone would accept $.50 for a photo that they took.
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11/23/2004 05:19:32 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by ericlimon:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
I submitted photos to the three main Stock sites. |
Corbis, Getty, Comstock?
Those are the three big boys. They pay well and maintain very professional and established businesses that keeps their photographers interest's first.
istock, shutterstock, etc... are small potatoes that pay pennies. Submitting to these companies drives the price down on stock photos, and is hurting the photography business in general.
It's disappointing that anyone would accept $.50 for a photo that they took. |
Getting accepted at either of those three you listed is very difficult. Do you have portfolios there?
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11/23/2004 05:26:43 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by ericlimon:
It's disappointing that anyone would accept $.50 for a photo that they took. |
This discussion has been made many times here already. Those who don't understand the market for royalty free stock photography often make the comment you just made. There are different types of buyers who buy rights managed images.
I don't look at my royalty free stock as penny images. I look at it as (currently) $500-$600 a year that I wouldn't have had otherwise.
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11/23/2004 05:29:09 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by RHoldenSr:
:(
Submission Guidelines:
We accept all sizes of TRANSPARENCIES (NO PROOFS, PRINTS, OR
NEGATIVES). Images may be horizontal or vertical (Note: For
calendars, the horizontal format is most often used). Photo credit
will be given on each slide per product (except for souvenir
items; space is limited and hides views). |
I saw that too.. I did a search and there is a way. //www.iprintfromhome.com/image_child.asp?id=65406&pid=66497&referid=32521 is the first website that came up as an option. According to my husband (who is the photographer in the family.. mine is just hobby (wonderful hobby :) this should work. |
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11/23/2004 05:32:18 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by ericlimon:
Submitting to these companies drives the price down on stock photos, and is hurting the photography business in general. |
Nonsense. There have been RF cds being sold for years. RF companies don't produce the same level of work as the "big 3" but they sure as hell don't cost as much for the designers either. McDonald's can't use RF from Istock on a promo campaign. Photos who do commercial work aren't losing anything. That's a huge misconception - what you can do with Istock pics.
Originally posted by ericlimon:
It's disappointing that anyone would accept $.50 for a photo that they took. |
Actually, it's quite disappointing to read the thread about throwaway photos and know that most of us throw away around 75% of our images when those images could buy us a new lens.
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11/23/2004 05:33:35 PM · #23 |
I have 51 photos on shutterstock and already manage to make 6.20$. And willing to put more photos to get more money. The more you have there the more you sell. I've just quited with istock because it's to slow and it seems like nothings happening there. didn't sell one photo yet.
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11/23/2004 05:40:15 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Discraft:
I have 51 photos on shutterstock and already manage to make 6.20$. And willing to put more photos to get more money. The more you have there the more you sell. I've just quited with istock because it's to slow and it seems like nothings happening there. didn't sell one photo yet. |
Istock has been very beneficial for me so far... Shutterstock is proving to be equally beneficial.
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11/23/2004 05:41:39 PM · #25 |
It's just so much easier to upload at Shutterstock that I have more images there than istock now. I'm not very consistent at uploading though. If I did my 10 a day, I could just be happy. :)
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