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03/01/2005 03:08:29 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
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Site council needs this in the form of an icon for the rant forum (where this thread better not have to be moved to.) ;-)
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03/01/2005 03:54:51 PM · #27 |
| Geeeezz... All I did today was type the word "bump". |
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03/01/2005 04:01:50 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by uctopuk:
Originally posted by WobblyLegs:
Originally posted by uctopuk:
Originally posted by xion:
Americans can photograph their flag.
/me ducks |
I can think of a few other countries where photographing the flag might fit as well. |
True, but they tend not to... |
They tend not to... export their form of government aggressively and violently (Germany)? ... invade others ideologically opposed to their way of life (Russia)? ... Legislate cultural beliefs domestically and internationally (France)? Or did you have something else in mind? |
Having been a member for a while, although not a very vociferous one, I have noticed MANY photographs of the US flag for all sorts of challenges, which is what I was refering to...
However, to note your response, how about IMPOSING "democracy" on nations that are not yet ready or able to implement it? These things take time, and a will to change. They cannot be forced... |
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03/01/2005 04:07:39 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by WobblyLegs:
However, to note your response, how about IMPOSING "democracy" on nations that are not yet ready or able to implement it? These things take time, and a will to change. They cannot be forced... |
Amen!
I have a better idea for a challenge. I don't think Armed Forces would be a controversial enough topic, so what would you all think of War as a challenge?
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03/01/2005 04:12:15 PM · #30 |
| Even though I am for democracy, I don't think we will see a political Challenge. Even though I think it would be OK. |
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03/01/2005 04:17:11 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by WobblyLegs:
However, to note your response, how about IMPOSING "democracy" on nations that are not yet ready or able to implement it? These things take time, and a will to change. They cannot be forced... |
Amen!
I have a better idea for a challenge. I don't think Armed Forces would be a controversial enough topic, so what would you all think of War as a challenge? |
nsbca7 - Sorry if you have addressed this before but I just noticed you have [No Camera - Vote Only] under your name. I don't mean to delve into your business but I was just wondering what happened. You had some great pictures and enjoyed voting on them... Just wondering, you don't have to reply if you wish to keep it to yourself.
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 16:17:45. |
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03/01/2005 05:38:52 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
I have a better idea for a challenge. I don't think Armed Forces would be a controversial enough topic, so what would you all think of War as a challenge? |
How about "War, what is it good for?" (plagerized from a Seinfeld episode) ;-)
The challenge would be to show the POSITIVE outcomes of fighting for your (and others') freedom, even when it costs lives. An example might be an Iraqi woman with purple ink on her finger. I would think, as previously mentioned in this thread, Europe would have some very positive examples of being liberated through the use of armed forces (someone else's at that).
As far as Politics being a hot button issue - didn't they have a "Propaganda" challenge a year or so ago that had some politically charged entries and discussion?
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03/01/2005 05:53:15 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
How about "War, what is it good for?" (plagerized from a Seinfeld episode) ;-)
The challenge would be to show the POSITIVE outcomes of fighting for your (and others') freedom, even when it costs lives. An example might be an Iraqi woman with purple ink on her finger. I would think, as previously mentioned in this thread, Europe would have some very positive examples of being liberated through the use of armed forces (someone else's at that).
As far as Politics being a hot button issue - didn't they have a "Propaganda" challenge a year or so ago that had some politically charged entries and discussion? |
Actually, the first time I heard that quote was Springsteen, long before Seinfeld... I digress.
Yes, there could be a "war" challenge, but I think that idea, along with the recent "poverty" and "pain" challenges might well get this site in to some serious trouble. Having looked at pictures from those challenges, I have to ask whether there was a model release signed by the subject for some of those photo's.
The reason I bring this up is that some pictures in those challenges were rather intrusive and would be acceptable in a "journalistic" sense. However, this is not a journalist's site. This site is for "gain" even if it is only a ribbon, which legally would require consent from the subject. No?
These pic's are, afterall, being "published," are they not?
Got my coat and left the building...
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 17:54:17. |
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03/01/2005 06:11:07 PM · #34 |
As an Army brat, I'd be all for a challenge like this...
...However, I can say from personal experience that this might have it's difficulties. Why? Sometimes militaries are touchy about their stuff being photographed, especially with the US military post-9/11. I mean, I understand their concerns completly and am all for being a little extra-safe and a bit restrictive versus seeing disaster because someone said, "Ah, well, sure, go ahead; you look pretty harmless."
On some US army bases overseas, I've seen postings specifically prohibiting photograhpy without clearance procedures. Even on bases without such signs, I've been asked to kindly put my camera away for security purposes (and at the time I was just a high-school kid). It was explained to me that it isn't even just a matter of the possibility that I might be taking pictures for wrongful purposes, but there's the thought that the pictures might get into the wrong hands later.
Now, if we're taking pictures of gravestones, already over-exposed landmarks, changes of commands, etc, and limit the view of the shot to not include buildings in the background, harbors, etc., that's probably fine in the eyes of most. The thing is, any picture that displays images in which the wrong sort of people could put together layouts of bases, buildings, etc., could be a vital piece of some terrorist's puzzle. This might all have too many 'ifs' and 'maybes,' but I'd rather not make people uncomfortable by my taking photographs when those 'ifs' and 'maybes' could harm them, their base, and the country which they stand for.
There are plenty of things to take pictures of that won't potentially threaten anyone, so why have one more mass conglomeration of pictures of military property that's on a public website that anyone could have access to? I'm not saying that every picture is a threat, but in a pile of 350 or so pictures of that theme, there's sure to be a few that someone could have a bit too much fun with, if found.
Just a thought on security for all of our countries, and peace of mind in the hearts of those that stand and fight for them. |
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03/01/2005 06:20:07 PM · #35 |
Edwin Star did it first back in '70.
WAR
(Barret Strong, Norman Whitfield)
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War is something that I despise
For it means destruction of innocent lives
For it means tears in thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons go out to fight to give their lives
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War
It's nothing but a heartbreaker
War
Friend only to the undertaker
War is the enemy of all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
Handed down from generation to generation
Induction destruction
Who wants to die
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War has shattered many young men's dreams
Made them disabled bitter and mean
Life is too precious to be fighting wars each day
War can't give life it can only take it away
War
It's nothing but a heartbreaker
War
Friend only to the undertaker
Peace love and understanding
There must be some place for these things today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord there's gotta be a better way
That's better than
War
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 18:23:47.
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03/01/2005 06:55:56 PM · #36 |
War is good for the economy. Downsizing the military and contracting out a lot of it's functions has substantially enlarged the benefits the private sector reaps when we go to war, and is having a corresponding influence on policy. "Imposing democracy" on places like Iraq is good for business.
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03/01/2005 07:14:39 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
War is good for the economy. Downsizing the military and contracting out a lot of it's functions has substantially enlarged the benefits the private sector reaps when we go to war, and is having a corresponding influence on policy. "Imposing democracy" on places like Iraq is good for business. |
I'm not so sure "good for business" is an acceptable notion in certain circles.
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03/01/2005 07:27:59 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by uctopuk:
"The jingo ate my baby." |
Okay, now that's just hilarious. :-)
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03/01/2005 07:28:46 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by uctopuk:
Originally posted by coolhar:
War is good for the economy. Downsizing the military and contracting out a lot of it's functions has substantially enlarged the benefits the private sector reaps when we go to war, and is having a corresponding influence on policy. "Imposing democracy" on places like Iraq is good for business. |
I'm not so sure "good for business" is an acceptable notion in certain circles. |
Some people think what's "good for business" is good for the country.
In a way it's like all the people here who jump in the forums reccommending that every newbie ought to buy a Rebel. You look at what camera they own and find they are all owners of Canon products. Their thinking is influenced by their investment, but most don't realize how much.
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03/01/2005 07:36:21 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
Originally posted by uctopuk:
"The jingo ate my baby." |
Okay, now that's just hilarious. :-) |
A band featuring Seth Green from the series Buffy the Vampire Slayer is named Dingos Ate My Baby.
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03/01/2005 07:39:32 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Some people think what's "good for business" is good for the country.
In a way it's like all the people here who jump in the forums reccommending that every newbie ought to buy a Rebel. You look at what camera they own and find they are all owners of Canon products. Their thinking is influenced by their investment, but most don't realize how much. |
I don't think my advise to someone to buy a Rebel has ever caused a young girl's brains to splat all over the wall of her bedroom.
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03/01/2005 07:54:03 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
Originally posted by uctopuk:
"The jingo ate my baby." |
Okay, now that's just hilarious. :-) |
A band featuring Seth Green from the series Buffy the Vampire Slayer is named Dingos Ate My Baby. |
Yes, and there's the Meryl Streep/Sam Neil movie set in Australia where Meryl Streep is charged with killing her baby while camping and claims "the Dingos ate my baby!" It's a classic and the first thing I thought of when I saw uctopuk's signature. Can't think of it's name at the moment, though. I forgot that Oz's band's name was Dingos Ate My Baby. LOL
Jen |
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03/01/2005 07:59:18 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
In a way it's like all the people here who jump in the forums reccommending that every newbie ought to buy a Rebel. You look at what camera they own and find they are all owners of Canon products. Their thinking is influenced by their investment, but most don't realize how much. |
...or the other way round...
-Terry
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03/01/2005 08:18:18 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by coolhar:
In a way it's like all the people here who jump in the forums reccommending that every newbie ought to buy a Rebel. You look at what camera they own and find they are all owners of Canon products. Their thinking is influenced by their investment, but most don't realize how much. |
...or the other way round...
-Terry |
Or maybe boths ways. Did you get the PM I sent you last night?
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03/01/2005 08:19:35 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Or maybe boths ways. Did you get the PM I sent you last night? |
Y'all get a room.
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03/02/2005 04:17:11 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by WobblyLegs:
Originally posted by kpriest:
How about "War, what is it good for?" (plagerized from a Seinfeld episode) ;-) |
Actually, the first time I heard that quote was Springsteen, long before Seinfeld... I digress. |
Yes, I know it was a Springsteen song and also that it was done previously - I just thought the Seinfeld reference was funnier. :P |
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03/02/2005 04:21:07 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
I don't think my advise to someone to buy a Rebel has ever caused a young girl's brains to splat all over the wall of her bedroom. |
Maybe not, but I have seen some newbies' heads explode trying to figure out how to use it. ;-) |
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03/02/2005 04:53:57 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by phreakon:
Originally posted by aronya1:
How about an Armed Forces challenge? Take a photo intended to honor those who protect & defend your country. |
Yeah, extra points for capturing jingoism. |
The military plays an important role in everyday American lives ...
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03/02/2005 04:56:59 PM · #49 |
So do cooks, auto mechanics and sanitation workers.
cool picture
Message edited by author 2005-03-02 16:58:34.
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