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05/23/2005 06:54:30 PM · #26

Originally posted by thewriterside:

Sofapez: Sorry to hear about your troubles. Cash only from private parties is the best sometimes. That's a hard lesson to have to learn. By the way, I just wanted let you know that I do believe violating copyrights on stills is just as bad as video... when I mentioned that it wasn't a big deal, I was only referring to stills taken of a movie in a movie theater. I don't want you to think I have callused view that disregards photographs :)

THANKS, probably won't go to cash only, I don't want to let one bad apple in 10 years ruin it for the whole basket. That THIEF will get hers through Karma (not Karmet (LOL)), and the attorney I have is on the job. I will be D A M M E D if I will let her get away with it. ANYWAY
I just get all riled up when it comes to pirating or theft especially (but not limited to) when it comes to art of any kind.

My son is involved with a group of people who attend a yearly festival, people there sell bootlegged stills taken at theaters of movies. They get $10 to $50 each. He once asked me if I was interested in having any, I went off on him. He realized I was correct and reported them to the festival committee who shut these idiots down. The money they made of this stolen images was probably into thousands. Some images that are coveted are not released by the production company, as I understand it.

DanSig

05/23/2005 07:05:08 PM · #27

Originally posted by xtabintun:

Originally posted by thewriterside:
You really need to check your facts. The profit of the film industry is actually down from last year. You might've seen the press on the continuing "box office slump." The industry is 14 weeks (in profit)behind what it was last year.

They should make better movies then.

totally agree there ;)

the reason for this slump is because last year was the year of the sequel,

LOTR 3
matrix 3
Bridget Jones 2
kill bill 2
Bourne Supremacy
shrek 2
spiderman 2
meet the fockers
harry potter 2

and I can go on and on...

and then itÂ´s all the other big hits..

Incredibles
Day after tomorrow
National Tresure
Polar Express
Sharktale
Million dollar baby
Eternal sunshine of the spottless mind
farenheit 9/11
Troy
Passion of the Christ
Village.

and what has this year offered so far ??

Hitch, Robots, the Pacifier, The Ring 2, Constantine, Sin City, Coach Carter, Sahara, Guess who, Are we there yet.
that's not a list of good movies, but it's the box office hitlist, I've seen most of them, but only 3 I consider good, none is great.

so if they would make some great movies then they would make more money.. not that I feel sorry for all those billions of $$$ they make in profit each year ;)

thewriterside

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/23/2005 07:27:44 PM · #28

DanSig- You can have all the large budget sequels you want in the previous year, but it won't affect the profits for the following year. The imbalance is corrected with more releases. It makes no difference in the world whether last year was the "year of the sequels" or not. Piracy is what makes the difference.

If you agree with the "They should make better movies then." line, why do you download them? If you are unhappy with the quality, it would only make sense to discontinue obtaining the films. And, again, the quality of a film has NOTHING to do with profit! Look at movies like Tomb Raider and Sahara... both are awful films, but they both made massive profits; and they aren't the only ones like that.

Originally posted by DanSig:

not that I feel sorry for all those billions of $$$ they make in profit each year ;)

What you fail to realize is that those billions in profits cover the paychecks of millions of talented people whom share their artistic visions with the world. You like being paid for your photographic skills, don't you?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

05/23/2005 08:30:02 PM · #29

thewriterside: what type films do you make?

Mick

Canon EOS-5D

05/23/2005 08:36:52 PM · #30

Originally posted by scalvert:

Was he using a Sith megapixel camera? ;-)

I don't know, but it sounds like 'The Force' was with him... when he left the theater anyway. :)

thewriterside

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/23/2005 08:39:45 PM · #31

Sofapez: The main genre I work with is drama- usually self written, short and feature length. I received an unexpected amount of praise for a short documentary that I recently distributed myself, so documentary may be my next step. I'm what is considered an "independent filmmaker." So, my films are usually obscure, and the majority have been shelved, or only played at a few festivals (I'm not even on IMDb). Hopefully that will change soon with the expansion of the independent market, and recognition of over-the-top styles like those of Charlie Kaufman (Oscar winner- Original Screenplay, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind) and David Lynch.

Message edited by author 2005-05-23 20:40:18.

Man_Called_Horse

05/23/2005 08:45:17 PM · #32

that $180 million that star wars made this past weekend doen not exactly mean they made that in profit.

also, every time a pirate steals, the trickle down effect happens. Not only do the studios suffer, but also ma and pa merchandise suffer.

for those that do steal, God help you for your dishonesty. for those that are honest, God help you with your wallet.

05/23/2005 08:45:22 PM · #33

Thanks thewriterside! I was just curious. Its nice to know a little bit about people. We do commercial work, graphics and photography. Digital is still new to us and so we are still learning lots about the work and the business of digital. Don't worry about being shelved, we all have those, still or not.

thewriterside

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/23/2005 08:57:56 PM · #34

The nice part about my shelved projects... I still collected my pay ; ) Good to see you're making an earning from graphics and photography. I tried my hand at graphics for a while. It didn't go too well ; )

And, Swinging Johnson, you made an excellent point on the earnings of Star Wars, that cost well over $100 million to make. And the trickle down effect- that hits theater operators, ticket takers, etc. And if you have a large theater that attracts customers to near-by businesses/restaraunts, what happens to those small businesses when the theater has to shut down from profit loss?

Another little thing for those commenting on the quality of movies to think about- if the industry loses profits due to piracy, the focus in filmmaking is no longer on quality... money is only put into projects that will have a decent return (which is why funding recently got pulled on several projects of mine).