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07/07/2005 12:45:19 PM · #1 |
How do you handle your images that nees a little 'noise ninja' or 'neat image': do you first get rid of the noise and then process them the usual way, or should noise removal be the last step? Something in between? Is it better to sharpen before or after noise removal?
Does it even make a difference?
I'm asking because I have a whole series of ISO 1600 images for the sport challenge :)
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07/07/2005 12:46:24 PM · #2 |
Noise removal should be first especially if you plan to sharpen the image. Sharpening will enhance the noise.
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07/07/2005 12:49:56 PM · #3 |
As a rule I do noise removal immediately if it seems warranted, and then sometimes have to do it a second time if PP has been extreme (frequently the case with dramatic B/W conversions a la Ansel Adams challenge).
R.
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07/07/2005 12:59:44 PM · #4 |
I tend to leave sports shots without noise reduction. I prefer the shots crisp rather than smooth. For the most part noise makes less of an impact on sports shots than say portraiture.
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07/07/2005 01:23:34 PM · #5 |
I too give more importance to crispness than to supermooth athletic skin :) I do find that my shots look too much like cheap newspaper after I converted them to B/W, like Robert said.
Thanks for the input, I'll remove the noise before further editing.
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07/07/2005 01:36:15 PM · #6 |
| Or you can duplicate the working layer and remove noise so you can reorder when ever you need to... also by doing this you can change the opacity to lessen the removal and add in a bit more noise if you need to (I usually set mine to 80%). |
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07/07/2005 01:52:46 PM · #7 |
When you say that we should remove noise immediately - does this mean even before any RAW adjustments as well?
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07/07/2005 01:56:28 PM · #8 |
Many other types of processing filters, especially any type of sharpening, drastically change the character and signature of the "noise" in an image, and therefore make it more difficult for programs like NEAT to remove it. Always do the noise removal as a first step, or at least one of the first. I don't see much harm in some mild levels adjustment or such, but certainly keep this step early in the workflow.
Brian, as long as you don't do any sharpening in the RAW adjustment stage, shouldn't be a problem
Message edited by author 2005-07-07 13:57:22. |
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07/07/2005 01:59:33 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by brianlh:
When you say that we should remove noise immediately - does this mean even before any RAW adjustments as well? |
Noise reduction can be part of the RAW adjustments. I don't think there's a way to apply noise reduction prior to any other RAW adjustments. In most cases the noise reduction tools are better in the editing program (you have more control).
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07/07/2005 02:00:39 PM · #10 |
That sounds logic. Even more so as noise ninja has specific profiles for different cameras at different ISO settings to match that particular noise scheme.
Edit: Should sharpening be done with the noise removal tool in one go, or afterwards with Photoshop/equivalent? Noise ninja seems to have some kind of USM.
Message edited by author 2005-07-07 14:04:58. |
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