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07/27/2005 02:46:24 PM · #1 |
its true, i've finally gone and done it. converted to shooting raw. it took this long w/ my camera to finally realize my capabilities with PS.
 
who knew i could turn a crappy shot like the left one into a crappy post-shot like the right one!
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07/27/2005 03:39:26 PM · #2 |
I know what you mean. I just started shooting RAW and was amazed at the extra details. I hate to show the same picture from a previous thread but it the only RAW vs. JPG example I have. A lot more details and tones to work with in RAW format. Still learing....
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07/27/2005 04:04:36 PM · #3 |
Sometimes I think we compare "JPEG vs. RAW" when it's really "Original vs. Processed". I know that RAW produces better results, but surely some of these are not comparing equal things.
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07/27/2005 04:35:08 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by brianlh:
Sometimes I think we compare "JPEG vs. RAW" when it's really "Original vs. Processed". I know that RAW produces better results, but surely some of these are not comparing equal things. |
The two pictures I am comparing above are from the same shot. My camera was in the RAW + Jpg mode. The only thing different is I had to open the raw file in Rawshooter Essentials first and convert to TIFF because PS/CS does not support the 350D .CR2 files. Other than that both pictures were process step by step the same and in the same history order. |
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07/27/2005 04:37:12 PM · #5 |
Ahh okay - whoops! Guess I was confused - I've never done a comparison myself. I always assumed that the comparisons were with the raw file converted straight to jpeg and with the product of processing the raw file (before PS).
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07/27/2005 04:38:23 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by brianlh:
Ahh okay - whoops! Guess I was confused - I've never done a comparison myself. I always assumed that the comparisons were with the raw file converted straight to jpeg and with the product of processing the raw file (before PS). |
No problem... hey I'm still learning :) |
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07/27/2005 04:40:03 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
Originally posted by brianlh:
Sometimes I think we compare "JPEG vs. RAW" when it's really "Original vs. Processed". I know that RAW produces better results, but surely some of these are not comparing equal things. |
The two pictures I am comparing above are from the same shot. My camera was in the RAW + Jpg mode. The only thing different is I had to open the raw file in Rawshooter Essentials first and convert to TIFF because PS/CS does not support the 350D .CR2 files. Other than that both pictures were process step by step the same and in the same history order. |
In Rawshooter, you did not adjust contrast, exposure, color balance or anything else?
I never realized there was that big of a differnece either. I just started shooting in RAW about a week ago and didn;t notice that dramatic of a change.
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07/27/2005 04:48:18 PM · #8 |
The only thing I did in Rawshooter was go to the little icon at the top of [looks like a wizard] and click "auto all". Then batch convert.
Then I go to PS/CS to do all adjustments. And like I said in the above post I had both the jpg and RAW file open and did exactly the same steps on both and saved as web. If I knew more about raw I could probably end up with a better picture. But I learing..I hope...
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07/27/2005 05:10:31 PM · #9 |
Is it possible that the "Auto All" is adjusting Saturation, Contrast, Exposure Compensation, etc?
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07/27/2005 05:13:40 PM · #10 |
Welcome in the world of raw shooting :)
On hint! Since you use PS/CS ore CS2 (even better with the second), the raw converter of PS is the best you can find around.
Not so fast as others, but it surely provides the best results, using the DcRaw engine for conversion.
For more info read this //www.insflug.org/raw/
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07/27/2005 05:13:43 PM · #11 |
I often shoot jpeg just for the ease of it... Raw I used when I need the most I can get, and the most flexibility. Jpeg is fine for almost everything I do.
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07/27/2005 05:35:20 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by brianlh:
Is it possible that the "Auto All" is adjusting Saturation, Contrast, Exposure Compensation, etc? |
Yes.
But the picture is better than the JPEG one, right? Let's assume it is. Who cares what made it better, the fact is, it's better. Now if you want, take the JPEG and try to make an image the same quality as the RAW version from it. Two things 1) it will probably be much more work and 2) it won't have a high of quality because it was stored in lossy 8-bit JPEG, while the RAW was 12-bit data processed in 16-bit internally to do the RAW conversion and adjustments. Even if you save to an 8-bit file after RAW conversion, it will be higher quality than a JPEG that was tweaked with curves and other tools in Photoshop. |
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07/27/2005 05:44:28 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by skylen:
Originally posted by brianlh:
Is it possible that the "Auto All" is adjusting Saturation, Contrast, Exposure Compensation, etc? |
Yes.
But the picture is better than the JPEG one, right? Let's assume it is. Who cares what made it better, the fact is, it's better. Now if you want, take the JPEG and try to make an image the same quality as the RAW version from it. Two things 1) it will probably be much more work and 2) it won't have a high of quality because it was stored in lossy 8-bit JPEG, while the RAW was 12-bit data processed in 16-bit internally to do the RAW conversion and adjustments. Even if you save to an 8-bit file after RAW conversion, it will be higher quality than a JPEG that was tweaked with curves and other tools in Photoshop. |
Good point :)
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07/27/2005 08:29:15 PM · #14 |
wow, quite a response...
my shots were comparing a raw to a jpeg ... i was just saying that I as a helpless quasi-photographer have converted to being a raw shooter rather than a jpeg shooter. the pics above are the raw file edited using CS2 into a not so ugly shot. i didn't have nearly that amount of control when working w/ a jpeg. in any case... =)
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07/28/2005 04:58:08 PM · #15 |
I used to laugh at people who only shot in RAW because I tried the included RAW conversion program with the Rebel and all the pics looked the same.
Then when Rawshooter Essentials came out, I tried it and it allowed me to control tones, lighting, shadow and stuff that JPEG and PS post processing just couldn't do. I was really amazed.
Now I only shoot in RAW and use RSE to adjust and rarely use PS. If I do, it's to do things I can't do in RSE, e.g. crop, layers, special effects, etc.
Message edited by author 2005-07-28 16:59:10.
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