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08/04/2005 12:00:28 AM · #1 |
This statement was discussed indirectly in the other post, but I would be interested in getting oppinions:
"Your title should be the year that you are trying to capture for future generations."
Does this mean that the title should ONLY contain the year you are trying to portray:
"1984"
Or can it contain something in addition to that such as:
"I am born, 1984"
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08/04/2005 12:07:27 AM · #2 |
If it says that your title should be the year - your title should be the year. Not that 'My uncle bob had his first spliff in 1950 when he was 12'.
Message edited by author 2005-08-04 00:10:33. |
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08/06/2005 07:10:00 AM · #3 |
| I think your question is justified. And the example you gave must be valied that is : |
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08/06/2005 09:28:22 AM · #4 |
Take a shot that depicts an era in time. Your title should be the year that you are trying to capture for future generations.
I don't see much room for argument there, except the odd use of "should" instead of "must": for some people, "should" indicates an advisory, not an order.
I could be wrong, but it's my sense that the challenge posters wanted titles that consist ONLY of the year. Certianly, that's what I'll do, to be safe. And you know me: the "mystical title" guy.
Robt.
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08/06/2005 12:58:26 PM · #5 |
| To be safe?? or that extraaa safe! |
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08/06/2005 06:52:29 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
I don't see much room for argument there, except the odd use of "should" instead of "must": for some people, "should" indicates an advisory, not an order.
Robt. |
Sorry for using 'must', but all I meant was without a subheading how can somebody know which happening/event/theme of that year the photograph points to ?
One can say, well, that must be in the photo, fair enough, but then how to bridge the gap between the theme in the photograph and the year which is its caption, specially for the off-bit entries ?
And without knowing that how could the photograph be properly contextualised?
That would be a test of the IQ too. For example how many remembers in which year Bangladesh fought the war of independence, and then how much impact a picture of a Bangladeshi girl running with joy with a caption 1971 would make??
Another example. 9/11 means for the US and indeed for all of us the attack on the twin towers but the same 9/11 means for the Chilean people the 'coup ' by Augusto Pinochet to throw away their elected govt.,"the world's first democratically-elected Marxist head of state". (Quoted from BBC see here, .//www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/chile.shtml
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So only dates/numbers are not enough
And when it comes to 'trying to capture [a moment in history] for future generations', it becomes essential to make ones point as clear as possible.
Message edited by author 2005-08-06 19:13:02. |
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08/06/2005 08:56:42 PM · #7 |
Sounds tricky, put more then the year and risk getting voted down by the sticklers, put just the year and risk people not knowing how the heck the photo relates to the year.
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08/06/2005 09:17:18 PM · #8 |
It's a shame that people are scared to be creative when thinking of titles. Personally, if you put the year and a subtitle, I see no problem with that -- heck, if the title works, it could only help -- but I agree, you'll be risking getting voted down by the closed-minded folks. :D
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08/06/2005 09:22:24 PM · #9 |
Personally, I felt that the SC left VERY little to interpretation this time by spelling it out very clearly. "Your title should be the year that you are trying to capture for future generations." How much more specific could it be? Your title should be the year - period. I'm sure that there will be variations on this theme - people trying to think outside the box and stretch the limitations of the theme, but I bet they'll get hammered for it in the voting. (Not saying that it will matter to me, but I would venture beyond a title stating just the year at your own peril...)
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08/07/2005 05:40:59 AM · #10 |
What is the conclusion then ?
Only year or also a subtitle acting as a pointer which adds the Photo and the year? |
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08/07/2005 06:26:53 AM · #11 |
| In these topics, there's never a conclusion. Do what you want and have fun with your entry. |
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08/07/2005 07:52:38 AM · #12 |
If the photo is for future generations, wouldn't your descendants know a bit about your heritage perhaps...that would separate the Americans vs Chileans issue.
Besides, I thought a 'Time Capsule' was something you put things into - you know, bury it - then dig it up 50 years from now. So I would want to depict things that help identify or show events for that year. Think about it...wouldn't a newspaper from the year your grandparents turned 16 be pretty interesting? Tough to take a picture of for this challenge perhaps, but still an interesting 'Time Capsule' item.
Anyhow - let's have fun. ;^)
Originally posted by Willtorecord:
...Another example. 9/11 means for the US and indeed for all of us the attack on the twin towers but the same 9/11 means for the Chilean people the 'coup ' by Augusto Pinochet to throw away their elected govt.,"the world's first democratically-elected Marxist head of state". |
I agree with bear on this point...
Originally posted by bear_music:
I don't see much room for argument there, except the odd use of "should" instead of "must": for some people, "should" indicates an advisory, not an order.
Robt. |
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08/07/2005 08:22:26 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
If the photo is for future generations, wouldn't your descendants know a bit about your heritage perhaps...that would separate the Americans vs Chileans issue.
Besides, I thought a 'Time Capsule' was something you put things into - you know, bury it - then dig it up 50 years from now. So I would want to depict things that help identify or show events for that year. Think about it...wouldn't a newspaper from the year your grandparents turned 16 be pretty interesting? Tough to take a picture of for this challenge perhaps, but still an interesting 'Time Capsule' item.
Anyhow - let's have fun. ;^)
Originally posted by Willtorecord:
...Another example. 9/11 means for the US and indeed for all of us the attack on the twin towers but the same 9/11 means for the Chilean people the 'coup ' by Augusto Pinochet to throw away their elected govt.,"the world's first democratically-elected Marxist head of state". |
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You quoted from me. Thanks for that.
But I did not understand you agree with me or not.
Because you have not made your point clear.
I did not at all tried to say anything about A vs B issue or anything like that.
All I asked was how would the voters know which theme of the year the photo indicates to, for we do not know all the important events of every year. And that was only one example.
So my query remains unanswered.
Message edited by author 2005-08-07 08:29:30. |
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08/07/2005 08:50:27 AM · #14 |
Will,
There is no correct answer here. Some will add a title along with the year and the DPC straight edgers will vote them down for it. Others will only title the year and leave us wondering what their photo should be and get voted down for that.
The title here is just like photography in general, you're not going to please everybody all the time. I am adding a title to mine. I figure even if half the people here in the US know what my picture is, it will leave the folks outside the US wondering. Besides, I'm never good with instructions, I don't even know what a circle is.
I see this is going to be your first challenge, good luck.
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08/07/2005 08:57:23 AM · #15 |
I wan't in on writing this challenge description, but we frequently use the word "should" rather than "must" to avoid getting DQ requests on the photos that don't follow the advice presented. Remember that what you are reading is part of the challenge description and not an Extra Rules section for the challenge.
As you know, not meeting the challenge is not grounds for disqualification. You could title your entry "Do this bunny think or are he scared" and not be disqualified for it. If you do, though, be aware that some voters will likely lower your score for not meeting the challenge.
-Terry
Message edited by author 2005-08-07 08:59:44.
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08/07/2005 10:47:45 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by jrtodd:
I see this is going to be your first challenge, good luck. |
No second, and anyway may be I will not take part.
I just thought the forum is a nice place for exchange of ideas. |
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08/08/2005 12:52:33 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by jrtodd:
...the DPC straight edgers... |
HA! xDxPxCx for life! |
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