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08/24/2005 01:06:35 PM · #151

Originally posted by milo655321:

Originally posted by notonline:
4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to (v) does or may denigrate or offend any ethnic, racial, gender, religious or other protected group, through use of language, images, stereotypical depiction or otherwise

I think this sums it up for you. Originally post by scalvert.

That's an evasion. Please address my question.

I did. But again thats basically what happened but this isn't the topic for debate in this thread.

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08/24/2005 01:07:06 PM · #152

Originally posted by ldowse:

Look everybody!!!!! boobies!!!!

lol thats good.

glad2badad

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08/24/2005 01:07:53 PM · #153

Here's the entire quote/discussion to keep it in context.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by notonline:
...it is also my right to post what I see fit based on the thread I am reading in response.

Yes, except...

"4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content that... (v) does or may denigrate or offend any ethnic, racial, gender, religious or other protected group."

It's a pretty safe bet that you would have offended a religious group, and that IS a violation of the ToS.

scalvert

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08/24/2005 01:10:40 PM · #154

Originally posted by milo655321:

So, wait, someone posted a thread asking for a little support after a very bad experience, another person posts a Bible verse as a show of support and you attack the use of the Bible verse as offensive? Is this essentially what happened?

Originally posted by notonline:

I did. But again thats basically what happened but this isn't the topic for debate in this thread.

Seems to me that deleting such offronts to common consideration is EXACTLY what we're discussing here.

Message edited by author 2005-08-24 13:11:57.

glad2badad

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08/24/2005 01:11:03 PM · #155

Here's the first post to get back to "...the topic for debate in this thread."

Originally posted by notonline:

I wanna know what goves Site council to edit, remove or delete a post that is NON-offensive??? and yet when a VALID complaint goes in to a post where I personally thought it was in distaste asked that it be moved to the rant instead of general discussion MY post in that forum was deleted??? Where's the justice???

08/24/2005 01:11:31 PM · #156

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Here's the entire quote/discussion to keep it in context.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by notonline:
...it is also my right to post what I see fit based on the thread I am reading in response.

Yes, except...

"4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content that... (v) does or may denigrate or offend any ethnic, racial, gender, religious or other protected group."

It's a pretty safe bet that you would have offended a religious group, and that IS a violation of the ToS.

So no regards for my ethnic background or religious group??? and yes I was offended by the original poster.

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08/24/2005 01:12:31 PM · #157

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by milo655321:
So, wait, someone posted a thread asking for a little support after a very bad experience, another person posts a Bible verse as a show of support and you attack the use of the Bible verse as offensive? Is this essentially what happened?

Originally posted by notonline:
I did. But again thats basically what happened but this isn't the topic for debate in this thread.

Seems to me that deleting such offronts to common consideration is EXACTLY what we're discussing here.

then why didn't you delete the post that offended me??? contrary to 4.2???

muckpond

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08/24/2005 01:15:23 PM · #158

Originally posted by davidus428:

"For God causes all things to work together for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose." - Bible (Romans 8:28)

Even difficult and hard to explain happenings like this will remind us something to thank God for. God bless you Tater... with more than what was taken away from you.

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Originally posted by notonline:

Cuz of crap like this I'm asking that this be moved to the rant forum.

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Originally posted by notonline:

Why was my post deleted???

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Originally posted by notonline:

Yea and where was your "god" when all this took place??? I still take offence to this.

scalvert

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08/24/2005 01:15:44 PM · #159

Originally posted by notonline:

So no regards for my ethnic background or religious group??? and yes I was offended by the original poster.

The original poster didn't refer to your ethnic background or religious group as, "crap." Posting a verse from the bible (or any other religious text) as consolation for someone who requested it is not an offensive gesture.

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08/24/2005 01:17:18 PM · #160

Originally posted by notonline:

So no regards for my ethnic background or religious group??? and yes I was offended by the original poster.

The simple existance of another religious group is not considered a denigration or offence to whatever ethnic group or religious group you consider yourself a member of.

Jason

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08/24/2005 01:17:47 PM · #161

You people need a HUG!

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08/24/2005 01:20:36 PM · #162

Originally posted by muckpond:

ok, look. i'm going to post what is going on here so we can let other decide who's being offensive and who's being one-sided.

while the posts were hidden in the original thread due to the contextual nature of that thread, i find them appropriate in this thread. and, since notonline posted them originally in this public venue and did not requested their removal (indeed, exactly the opposite), i am going to assume his tacit approval for posting them here.

the conversation went as follows, and is from taterbug's "Need some luvin' from my dpc family..." thread:

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Originally posted by davidus428:
"For God causes all things to work together for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose." - Bible (Romans 8:28)

Even difficult and hard to explain happenings like this will remind us something to thank God for. God bless you Tater... with more than what was taken away from you.

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Originally posted by notonline:

Cuz of crap like this I'm asking that this be moved to the rant forum.

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Originally posted by notonline:

Why was my post deleted???

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Originally posted by notonline:

Yea and where was your "god" when all this took place??? I still take offence to this.

AND I asked, "where is your GOD now???" Muckpond if your gonna post everything then plz make sure you post everything I said instead of SC editing, deleting, removing or hiding what I say.

Matthew

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08/24/2005 01:21:20 PM · #163

Originally posted by notonline:

when 4.2 of he ToA says I'm right.

Notonline - you are not in a democracy, and you do not have "rights" on DPC, except those granted in the terms you agreed when signing on to the site. 4.2 does not say anyone is "right": it sets out an obligation on your part. Whether you or anyone else is complying with that obligation will always be open to debate and subject to the facts.

You and the SC have a difference of opinion on whether one or more of your posts have been in the right place, and whether another commenter has inappropriately used a religious reference. No one has suggested that you cannot make your point, merely that it should be made in another place.

This site is populated by a huge mixture of people, many of whom choose to follow a religion, and some of whom regularly provide religious quotations by way of guidance. I don't particularly like the practice of offering up religious guidance in a secular context. But I reject the idea of stifling those comments (where would you start or stop?), and most are well meant.

You are not being stifled, but you are being directed to post in a more harmonious manner (ie not thread-jacking). The irony is that you are requesting that other comments be deleted because you find their contents objectionable.

love

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08/24/2005 01:21:26 PM · #164

I personally don't think it should have been removed...even though he was obviously venting

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08/24/2005 01:21:53 PM · #165

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by notonline:
So no regards for my ethnic background or religious group??? and yes I was offended by the original poster.

The original poster didn't refer to your ethnic background or religious group as, "crap." Posting a verse from the bible (or any other religious text) as consolation for someone who requested it is not an offensive gesture.

He did NOT request ANY religious context. He may not have been offended by it but I was when I went to console him.

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08/24/2005 01:23:29 PM · #166

I think that a lot of people are answering Notonline's postings and fueling his ... well I wont say anger... and allowinghim to continue all this ... this thread has grown like mad because of it.. If no one answers him... he wont have anyoen to go off on.. so ... Please people... dont fuel his need

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08/24/2005 01:23:32 PM · #167

The only problem I see is the word crap maybe.

scalvert

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08/24/2005 01:26:07 PM · #168

Originally posted by notonline:

Yea and where was your "god" when all this took place??? I still take offence to this.

AND I asked, "where is your GOD now???" Muckpond if your gonna post everything then plz make sure you post everything I said instead of SC editing, deleting, removing or hiding what I say. [/quote]

Your post was hidden, not deleted. Muckpond posted what you wrote verbatim.

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08/24/2005 01:26:23 PM · #169

"Ok we're gonna start some sh!t today *fixing tie*" - Pablo Francisco impersonating Jerry Springer

08/24/2005 01:26:54 PM · #170

Originally posted by legalbeagle:

Originally posted by notonline:
when 4.2 of he ToA says I'm right.

Notonline - you are not in a democracy

Your right. Where's Hitler when you need him??? <--- Thats not right.

since this site is based from the USA it should be a democracy. I did NOTHING wrong in the ToA that wasn't done before me and yet my post was deleted. IU'm not asking for the post to be removed but that SC as a collective be MORE aware of offensive matterial and stop religious content from being posted as it itself is offensive.