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11/17/2005 03:48:53 PM · #1076

Originally posted by ScottK:

...but belief does not define what is right or wrong. If it did, then slavery (in particular, the form of slavery practiced in early America) was right 300 years ago, but wrong today.

I'll go back and tackle some other comments later, but this one's too easy. The contention is that homosexuality is wrong because the bible says so, therefore that is the truth and absolutely right. It cannot be wrong hundreds of years ago and right in modern times. The bible is the infallible word of God... it is the truth, it was the truth, and it always will be the truth. To wit:

Originally posted by res0m50r:

Originally posted by milo655321:
Do you believe the Bible to be inerrant?

Yes, not liable to error in terms. ...my conclusion came after reading it and not being able to find error. This is based soley on my research and understanding and have yet to have anyone prove it false.

Therefore, passages like this are absolute facts, relayed to us from God, and not subject to error or revision.

Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as a possession for ever; you may make slaves of them, but over your brethren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another, with harshness.

Exodus 21:2,4
When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve you six years, and in the seventh he shall go free for nothing ... If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone.

Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord.

Now match that up with your statement above. Slavery was undeniably "right" hundreds of years ago. That should be self-evident (if slavery was wrong, it never would have made it into deeply religious Colonial American life in the first place). Oops.

Message edited by author 2005-11-17 17:39:05.

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11/17/2005 05:32:47 PM · #1077

Good one, Shannon. OK let's talk more about slavery vs. homosexuality.

Aside from what the Bible says about how acceptable slavery is, do conservatives really condone it?

If not, why slavery is wrong? I would say because there are actual victims.

If homosexuality is wrong, it is so because...? I still haven't been convinced that anyone will be physically harmed or imprisoned because two persons of the same sex sign a piece of paper that has "Marriage Certificate" typed across the top of it.

The issue of slavery was one that initially caused me to question the rationale of Christianity, in the first place. No one was ever able to explain to me how slavery was acceptable then and not now. But let's pretend that such twisted logic does apply:

Slavery (and prostitution, for that matter) were considered acceptable in Biblical times because society could not function without them.

Therefore, homosexuality is now acceptable because society cannot function without it.

muckpond

Nikon D200

11/17/2005 05:37:15 PM · #1078

Originally posted by greatandsmall:

Therefore, homosexuality is now acceptable because society cannot function without it.

EXACTLY! without us, who would do your hair?

11/17/2005 05:38:34 PM · #1079

ROFL!

11/17/2005 05:43:31 PM · #1080

Originally posted by muckpond:

Originally posted by greatandsmall:
Therefore, homosexuality is now acceptable because society cannot function without it.

EXACTLY! without us, who would do your hair?

LOL! :) I wasn't going to say it!

11/17/2005 05:48:20 PM · #1081

Anybody know where I can get a gay slave that knows how to make curtains and give highlights?

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11/17/2005 05:50:24 PM · #1082

Costco, but you have to buy them by the dozen.

muckpond

Nikon D200

11/17/2005 05:55:01 PM · #1083

jeez, you'd never get into your own bathroom.

11/17/2005 05:56:32 PM · #1084

ROFL X 2

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11/17/2005 05:57:17 PM · #1085

Yeah, but at least it would be clean.

muckpond

Nikon D200

11/17/2005 05:59:08 PM · #1086

but crowded! think of all the "product" around the edges of the tub. yeesh.

11/17/2005 05:59:18 PM · #1087

Keep going with these one-liners and I'M going to have to get in the bathroom! ;-)

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11/17/2005 06:00:54 PM · #1088

Well just be careful when you bend over. There might be a Christian in there with a whip!

Riponlady

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ35

11/17/2005 06:09:02 PM · #1089

Originally posted by greatandsmall:

Well just be careful when you bend over. There might be a Christian in there with a whip!

Promises, promises!
:))

frisca

Nikon D70

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11/17/2005 06:09:31 PM · #1090

I'm killing myself and I'm telling this one to my FABULOUS (with a capital "F A B") stylist!

Riponlady

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ35

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11/17/2005 06:12:02 PM · #1091

The first gay black guy I knew was a hair stylist at Sassoons in London. I didn't think they existed until then - but that was 37 years ago!

BTW - guess what I had to teach in school today ? - Noah! I nearly wet myself thinking about T Rex when the kids asked if all the animals were in there!

P

11/17/2005 06:13:26 PM · #1092

Oooh, oooh...I've been thinking about Noah all day. Give me few minutes to compose my thoughts on this.

I fear we may have chased all the conservatives out of this thread, but just in case we haven't here is my question about Noah:

Assuming Noah was able to build an ark large enough to accomodate two of every creature on Earth (including dinosaurs), and assuming that they all lined up to get on the Ark; how did he know to collect all of the microorganisms that populate this world. And what did he keep them in? For example, since evolution is impossible, every strain of bacteria and virus throughout history must have already been in existence (many of which are deadly and exclusive to a particular species).

And since the Bible is the absolute authority...why does it fail to discuss how Noah controlled and fed dinosaurs and the bird flu?

Message edited by author 2005-11-17 18:27:20.

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11/17/2005 06:15:58 PM · #1093

Originally posted by Riponlady:

guess what I had to teach in school today ? - Noah!

Noah way!

Riponlady

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ35

11/17/2005 06:24:29 PM · #1094

I HAMmed it up a bit though!
"The animals went in two by two
Hurrah, hurrah
The animals went in two by two
Hurrah, hurrah
The animals went in two by two,
T Rex, Diplydocus and kangaroo
They all went into the Ark
For to get out of the rain!."
:)

jsas

Sony Mavica CD250

11/17/2005 06:37:43 PM · #1095

Nice little ditty. Funny how you guys cry about discimination but yet you feel it is ok to discriminate against people who do not agree with you. Whatever you say it is a double standard. LOL funny how that all works out.

11/17/2005 06:37:59 PM · #1096

Originally posted by greatandsmall:

I may actually be able to answer this one on behalf of some of the folks.

The majority of microorganisms (unicellular little guys) are water creatures. Ergo, as pertaining to the salt water floating at the top and the fresh underneath, or was it the other way around? Anyways, they all had the means to survive without having to go on the ark. As for land based micro-organisms, they probably stashed out in the vegan lions manes and other various hiding spots. Oh, I've got a partial sentence in there. Sorry about the bad english.

11/17/2005 06:38:37 PM · #1097

Originally posted by muckpond:

jeez, you'd never get into your own bathroom.

Just yell there's a fabulous sale at Bloomingdales. Then it'll empty out pretty quick ;)

jsas

Sony Mavica CD250

11/17/2005 06:39:44 PM · #1098

But yet you make fun of the very people you soo called defend LO(freakin)L!

11/17/2005 06:41:22 PM · #1099

Originally posted by jsas:

I just see a good debate going on here. The only discrimination I see is that some people believe gays shouldn't get married. Granted this thread is so long now I can't remember everything that's been said.