How do you vote? - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/25/2005 02:16:12 PM · #1

Ever wonder how your challenge voting habits compare to the "average" voter?

I put together a utility that will analyze your votes on any particular challenge and generates a report. The results aren't saved anywhere nor shared with anyone.

If you want to try it out, I posted it at //www.sn3creations.com/trollcheck.asp

Instructions for how to feed your challenge votes into it are on the page. The instructions look long, but it just spells everything out in detail.

Gunni

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

11/25/2005 02:18:31 PM · #2

booooring

nee just kidding :D

still i wouldnt mind havin the formula on how people vote ;)
prolly get me a ribbon or two ;)

mfairbanks

Sony DSC-F828

11/25/2005 02:27:18 PM · #3

Greetings,
OK, the above listed steps yeilded this for the trypytch challenge...

SUMMARY

Total votes: 232
Average difference from final score: -0.4654
Average ABSOLUTE difference from final score: 0.8932
# of votes more than 1 pt off final score: 82
# of votes more than 2 pts off final score
# of votes Below the final score 179
# of votes Over the final score 53

Now, could someone please put this in english? What does it all mean?

Mike
//www.mikefairbanks.com

Message edited by author 2005-11-25 14:27:53.

MattO

Nikon D4

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

11/25/2005 02:36:12 PM · #4

Well here are my results from single light source.

Total votes: 287
Average difference from final score: -0.2271
Average ABSOLUTE difference from final score: 0.5906
# of votes more than 1 pt off final score: 52
# of votes more than 2 pts off final score
# of votes Below the final score 174
# of votes Over the final score 112

So what exactly does all of this mean? BTW thats some pretty cool work to get that done.

MattO

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

11/25/2005 02:38:32 PM · #5

While this is an interesting exercise, when I run it repeatedly over the same challenge, I get a different number of votes cast/analyzed each time...

R.

11/25/2005 02:48:04 PM · #6

Originally posted by mfairbanks:

Here's the author's interpretation:

On average, your vote was .465 below how the universe voted. This measures your scoring relative to everyone else.

The absolute difference is a measurement of how far from the final score (+ or -) your typical vote is.

The difference between the average and absolute is that if you had 2 votes, one 1pt above and one 1pt below the score, your average would be a difference of zero, while the absolute variance would be 1. Kinda like the beta coefficient for stocks.

82 votes (rougly 33%) of the votes cast were more than one point different than the final score - it just shows that you didn't agree with the consensus on a significant # of the entries.

The numbers below and above the final score shows that you had more of a tendency to vote below the average score than above it.

The far right column on the report flags the entries where your vote was more than 1 pt off from the average.

How to use the data? It can be helpful to see if you have a trend of voting up or down certain types of entries, or for self-inspection of whether you are being more harsh or more generous than the general population.

Think of it as useful trivia.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

11/25/2005 02:49:36 PM · #7

Originally posted by bear_music:

While this is an interesting exercise, when I run it repeatedly over the same challenge, I get a different number of votes cast/analyzed each time...

R.

Not happy to hear that - would you be willing to PM me the source you used as input? I would love to use it for debugging.

Thanks.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

11/25/2005 03:02:53 PM · #8

Originally posted by northrop3:

Originally posted by bear_music:
While this is an interesting exercise, when I run it repeatedly over the same challenge, I get a different number of votes cast/analyzed each time...

R.

Not happy to hear that - would you be willing to PM me the source you used as input? I would love to use it for debugging.

Thanks.

Whoot. I tried that and it looks as if the whole thing was sent as HTML to you. I used single light source, where I voted on all images, and got a range of between 60 and 167 votes cast on 3 tries.

Let me know if I can help further.

R.

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

11/25/2005 03:20:33 PM · #9

That's weird Robert, I tried it several times on Tryptich, which I voted on all, and I get the same results every time....

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

11/25/2005 03:28:41 PM · #10

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by northrop3:

Originally posted by bear_music:
While this is an interesting exercise, when I run it repeatedly over the same challenge, I get a different number of votes cast/analyzed each time...

R.

Not happy to hear that - would you be willing to PM me the source you used as input? I would love to use it for debugging.

Thanks.

Whoot. I tried that and it looks as if the whole thing was sent as HTML to you. I used single light source, where I voted on all images, and got a range of between 60 and 167 votes cast on 3 tries.

Let me know if I can help further.

R.

Thanks - I just finished going through what you sent - I did see a problem where it is stumbling on the DQ'd images and have fixed that, but have tried inputting the data you sent multiple times and keep getting the same results. I will keep looking though.

Thanks for the assistance!

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

11/25/2005 03:39:39 PM · #11

Just tried it with pumpkins and it works fine.

R.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

11/25/2005 03:42:57 PM · #12

Very nice. One thing that I would like to see, and it's probably already being summed/averaged, is my avg vote for the entire challenge that I plug in. I know it shows the +/- difference at the end of mine against the total avg...just being lazy. ;^)

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

11/25/2005 03:46:19 PM · #13

Triptych

Total votes: 150
Average difference from final score: -0.0054
Average ABSOLUTE difference from final score: 0.7737
# of votes more than 1 pt off final score: 30
# of votes more than 2 pts off final score 8
# of votes Below the final score 86
# of votes Over the final score 64
Your average vote: 5.6667

Fauna - the first challenge I voted/entered just for comparison

Total votes: 312
Average difference from final score: -0.4142
Average ABSOLUTE difference from final score: 1.1454
# of votes more than 1 pt off final score: 107
# of votes more than 2 pts off final score 44
# of votes Below the final score 210
# of votes Over the final score 102
Your average vote: 4.8462

Message edited by author 2005-11-25 15:53:43.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

11/25/2005 03:48:52 PM · #14

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Good thought - just added it to the bottom of the report.

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

11/25/2005 03:52:33 PM · #15

Originally posted by northrop3:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
Very nice. One thing that I would like to see, and it's probably already being summed/averaged, is my avg vote for the entire challenge that I plug in. I know it shows the +/- difference at the end of mine against the total avg...just being lazy. ;^)

Good thought - just added it to the bottom of the report.

That's a good idea, interesting you called it a trollcheck !!

wavelength

Nikon D300

11/25/2005 03:54:17 PM · #16

what do the 4 stars off to the right mean?

11/25/2005 03:55:25 PM · #17

Originally posted by keegbow:

That's a good idea, interesting you called it a trollcheck !!

My sense of humor is a bit dry. Glad you noticed.

Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

11/25/2005 03:56:45 PM · #18

Originally posted by wavelength:

what do the 4 stars off to the right mean?

It just flags the entries where your vote was more than one pt of the final score that entry got - makes it easier to see the ones you may want to look at to see why your opinion differed from the crowd.

CEJ

Canon EOS-40D

11/25/2005 04:12:02 PM · #19

bust post...

Message edited by author 2005-11-25 16:17:14.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/25/2005 04:25:16 PM · #20

I kept getting a exceeded time to execute error...

Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0113'
Script timed out

/trollcheck2.asp

The maximum amount of time for a script to execute was exceeded. You can change this limit by specifying a new value for the property Server.ScriptTimeout or by changing the value in the IIS administration tools.

Message edited by author 2005-11-25 16:28:20.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/25/2005 04:33:50 PM · #21

Well, that error was on single light source. I got triptych to work.

Total votes: 228
Average difference from final score: 0.3675
Average ABSOLUTE difference from final score: 0.8269
# of votes more than 1 pt off final score: 63
# of votes more than 2 pts off final score 14
# of votes Below the final score 86
# of votes Over the final score 142
Your average vote: 6.0044

Looks like I'm officially off the troll list.