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02/10/2006 10:31:24 PM · #1 |
How about a true Digital Photo challenge. Not a Photoshop challenge. Set your camera on 640X480 take a pic and post it. Maybe ad a subject mater to keep us focused. |
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02/10/2006 10:43:02 PM · #2 |
Come on. Are you guy's scared. A down to basics quick an easy, take a cool photo challenge. Someone come up with a subject. |
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02/10/2006 10:47:25 PM · #3 |
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02/10/2006 10:48:36 PM · #4 |
self portraits.... it seems to be what I am best at. Maybe I can actually win the blue! LoL
*wakes up from dream* |
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02/10/2006 10:51:27 PM · #5 |
You would have to make it a level playing field and allow some very basic editing for dSLR cameras like USM, levels, and maybe saturation. Because a point and shoot does that in the camera and a dSLR does not.
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02/10/2006 10:54:07 PM · #6 |
Why? Why not! If we come up with a good subject, then its down to set up and lighting and knowing how to use your camera. I will probably suck but to me it feels like a fun challenge. TAKE a good photograph not PRODUSE a good picture. |
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02/10/2006 10:57:43 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Bridog: How about a true Digital Photo challenge. Not a Photoshop challenge. Set your camera on 640X480 take a pic and post it. Maybe ad a subject mater to keep us focused. |
My camera doesn't go to 640x480
~Terry
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02/10/2006 10:59:34 PM · #8 |
I think it is ridiculous to have a zero edit. Just my opinion though.
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02/10/2006 11:01:48 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by southern_exposure: You would have to make it a level playing field and allow some very basic editing for dSLR cameras like USM, levels, and maybe saturation. Because a point and shoot does that in the camera and a dSLR does not. |
Actually it is pretty easy to simulate a PeaShooter with a dSLR. Just change to Parm 1 (on the 20D or dReb) and kick-up Sharpness 1 (or 2) and take the Contrast down 1 and saturate it a bit. |
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02/10/2006 11:02:03 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by southern_exposure: You would have to make it a level playing field and allow some very basic editing for dSLR cameras like USM, levels, and maybe saturation. Because a point and shoot does that in the camera and a dSLR does not. | Well not actually true but a DSLR does less processing in camera.
Old debate I guess. There's is no such thing as "without processing" because every camera do process the image. The reason is simple, no processing no images, simple as that. We could says "no post processing" but then it become a challenge of what camera do the best in-camera processing. or we could says if we want this kind of challenge to be fair, "let's just use this kind of film or this kind of film, and have it developped by your local lab" but then we wouldn't be "DP"challenge and then it would become a competition of who have the best local lab. Or we could have a set of basic editing rules and advanced editing rule and it could be just fine...
Message edited by author 2006-02-10 23:04:00.
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02/10/2006 11:09:12 PM · #11 |
OK I don't mind admitting you guys are way more advanced and techincal than me. That said here is what I am getting at. You pick a subject, set it up to be photographed. Set up your lighting, weather it be desk lamps and hallogen work lights or your fancy studio lights. Then position your camera to take the picture, the final picture, the picture you will enter. It might be fun, give it a try. |
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02/10/2006 11:13:12 PM · #12 |
That's like telling Ansel Adams to enter a contest without useing any darkroom techniques.
This is such an original idea, that I've only seen it posted about 50 times, and I haven't been her that long.
Not trying to be rude, but I am trying to be blunt. The stated "spirit" of this site is to foster learning of techniques, not to put us all into the darkages of digital photography. Usually someone post these only once, and then they get some PS skillz, and they're like, "Lets expand the basic rules to allow dodging and burning" and other such stuff.
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02/10/2006 11:19:38 PM · #13 |
OK I give in. I thought this was Digital Photography Challenge not Digital Photoshop Challenge. Not trying to be rude, but I am trying to be sarcastic. Ha, I crack myself up. No ribbons for you!
Message edited by author 2006-02-10 23:21:15. |
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02/10/2006 11:33:37 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Bridog: OK I give in. I thought this was Digital Photography Challenge not Digital Photoshop Challenge. Not trying to be rude, but I am trying to be sarcastic. Ha, I crack myself up. No ribbons for you! |
It couldn't be "digital photoshop challenge" because some people on this site use Paint Shop Pro".
Trying not to be sarcastic anymore. If you wish, I'll post here some real "without post processing" images. This would mean, shot in RAW and converted with no contrast, no exposure compensation, no brightness, no curves, no saturation, nothing!! When you see how boring it is to look at, no matter the subject or composition, you may not want it anymore. An important point to know is that a JPEG or a TIFF (not RAW) straight from the camera IS processed unlike the file i'm proposing to post. And there are no camera that process these files in the same manner. That being said, doing this challenge is comparing an automatic processing with another. It become a challenge of who has the camera that process the best. If we don't want that to happen, we will have to process them ourselves wich involve human skill. Some are better than the others (I'm not one of them) and this is the spirit of a challenge.
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02/10/2006 11:40:48 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Bridog: OK I give in. I thought this was Digital Photography Challenge not Digital Photoshop Challenge. Not trying to be rude, but I am trying to be sarcastic. Ha, I crack myself up. No ribbons for you! |
Post processing is just an integral part of digital photography. Doing away with it is somewhat counter productive.
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02/10/2006 11:40:52 PM · #16 |
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Message edited by author 2006-02-11 07:56:39. |
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02/10/2006 11:42:33 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bridog: OK I give in. I thought this was Digital Photography Challenge not Digital Photoshop Challenge. Not trying to be rude, but I am trying to be sarcastic. Ha, I crack myself up. No ribbons for you! |
In between the sarcasm and hilarity, it might interest you to read through some of the previous challenge suggestions. |
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02/10/2006 11:48:21 PM · #18 |
I'm game... will bust out the 950 for this challenge... it has super contrast and saturation ....
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02/10/2006 11:48:48 PM · #19 |
I think it's a great idea...will give everyone the same chance...it will tell who is a great photographer without the editing...and enhancing |
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02/10/2006 11:49:51 PM · #20 |
Ahha that was fun, No ribbons for you! I kill me. Well good luck to everyone in our future challenge's. I'll try to read more and catch up with whats going on. Goodnight. |
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02/10/2006 11:50:30 PM · #21 |
This is JPEG straight from the camera.
This is a RAW file converted with real no processing at all.
As you can see there is no such thing as a JPEG straight from camera with no processing...
Oh and by the way, the JPEG is shot with parameters 2. Everything set to neutral..?
Message edited by author 2006-02-10 23:52:25.
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02/11/2006 12:00:31 AM · #22 |
Wow, If Angela is in then maybe I was right, it would be a good challenge. Angela say hi to Mom, you guys are great. Love your pics |
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02/11/2006 12:01:12 AM · #23 |
It will be very nice to do such a challenge. I am very reluctant to extreme PP, because I cannot qualify it as photography when you do so. I wished I could look at the original pictures sometimes, I think I will be very disappointed of comparing the original and the modified versions. Unsharp mask + saturation + (and sometimes balance colour) works just fine with me.
Without any crop will be nice too. I wonder how people can shoot correctly without those fashionable tools. We might be surprised of the results.
Message edited by author 2006-02-11 00:09:44.
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02/11/2006 12:33:17 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by angela_packard: I think it's a great idea...will give everyone the same chance...it will tell who is a great photographer without the editing...and enhancing |
Bring it on ;OP
I have another edit that I burned, NI'd, and cloned into submission, but it IS pretty satisfying when you get a pretty high score in a tough challenge without editing.
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02/11/2006 12:37:39 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by msieglerfr: It will be very nice to do such a challenge. I am very reluctant to extreme PP, because I cannot qualify it as photography when you do so. I wished I could look at the original pictures sometimes, I think I will be very disappointed of comparing the original and the modified versions. Unsharp mask + saturation + (and sometimes balance colour) works just fine with me.
Without any crop will be nice too. I wonder how people can shoot correctly without those fashionable tools. We might be surprised of the results. |
Yeah, cuz when Ansel Adams "post Processed" in the darkroom, that didn't qualify as photography either? He had one negative that he worked on for like 30 years before he was truly happy with it. So much for snap a picture and go. I bet that man was never happy with a single piece of film that he ever developed initially.
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