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 02/14/2006 01:57:27 AM · #26
I would have to stick to landscapes and use an inbuilt sensor with around 50MP that uses my current (and best) lens...

...my eyeball.

02/14/2006 02:02:11 AM · #27
Wasn't there an article somewhere saying that human eyes didn't have a really great resolution after all? I didn't save the link, but I thought I remembered reading that.

I mean, with a fairly high resolution sensor and a normal/mid telelphoto lens we can crop to 100% and see details that were really small to our eyes, right?
 02/14/2006 02:04:30 AM · #28
Correct... but it has an excellent Noise ratio ;-)
 02/14/2006 02:07:16 AM · #29
To be fair, you wouldn't have to worry about ND grads when using an eyeball.
 02/14/2006 02:10:20 AM · #30
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
Wasn't there an article somewhere saying that human eyes didn't have a really great resolution after all? I didn't save the link, but I thought I remembered reading that.

I mean, with a fairly high resolution sensor and a normal/mid telelphoto lens we can crop to 100% and see details that were really small to our eyes, right?

if you're going to go past about 50mm (aprox. eye focal length) you should magnify the eye's ability with binoculars or something as well just to be fair. Otherwise you gotta stick to your 50mm or so... I've heard that the eye is a few hundred MP.
 02/14/2006 02:10:41 AM · #31
P&S :
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-fast prime lens equivalent to 50mm, f/1.4
-no shutter lag.
-instant on, even better : always on.
-a real ***click*** when shutter is released.
-iso range 100-1600, low noise.
-no program modes, only manual and both priority modes.
-decent spot metering.
-hot shoe.
-good autonomy.
-rugged build, preferably waterproof

I'd buy one NOW if it existed.
 02/14/2006 02:14:15 AM · #32
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
P&S :
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-fast prime lens equivalent to 50mm, f/1.4
-no shutter lag.
-instant on, even better : always on.
-a real ***click*** when shutter is released.
-iso range 100-1600, low noise.
-no program modes, only manual and both priority modes.
-decent spot metering.
-hot shoe.
-good autonomy.
-rugged build, preferably waterproof

I'd buy one NOW if it existed.


Your requirements seem possible, and *maybe* there is a camera out there that could fit in the bill if not for the prime lens you asked :)
 02/14/2006 02:17:19 AM · #33
I'd love a compact camera with a prime lens also.

Isn't 2 customers plenty for a customer to manufacture a fairly unique, semi-niche camera?? :P
 02/14/2006 02:45:26 AM · #34
If you check the news on DPReview.com for the upcoming PMA show product releases (last I checked they were already up to 36 before the show even started), you will find that there IS a new camera coming out (I believe by Fuji) that has TWO LENSES, providing a choice between them.

THE LOWER LENS IS EQUIVALENT TO 23MM PRIME!!!

exciting for quite a few people out there I'm sure.

I would guess that there is a mirror which allows you to simply choose between the lenses.

Having said that, I got the crazy idea of a Rolleiflex that used an APS-C sensor such as is currently available on the Canon 350XT and using that in a cheap back. It wouldn't be able to produce Medium format level images, but I think it's pretty obvious already that there is a more than substantial market in the 500-900 dollar price range for cameras with DSLR type sensors.

Rollei actually does produce a mini digital camera, but it's more than a disappointment, it's more of a joke. It costs more than my S2 (indeed if you know where to look, you can get a 350XT body only for cheaper), but the Rollei mini has a whalloping 2 megapixels and a serious case of chromatic aberration and noise. It also features a completely pointless "film advance" roller on the side which is just plain stupid IMHO.

Having something that used the basic ground glass, dual lens system but had the imaging quality of a 350XT or even a D50 would surely appeal to many afficionadoes. I would consider one even if it was just for fun if it could be purchased for around 500 dollars.
 02/14/2006 02:46:21 AM · #35
A very small compact body, with a fixed 24mm f/2 prime lens by Leica or Zeiss. The Canon 1D II 8mp 1.3x crop sensor, with the Bayer filter removed to get true full resolution b&w (that makes the resolution equal to an 8mp foveon, because you don't have to interpolate the colors anymore).
No ttl viewfinder, but a big bright 0.95x magnification optical viewfinder at the side. Manual focus with the rangefinder system.


02/14/2006 02:57:41 AM · #36
a crazy wish:

a 5 mp camera fits inside the eye socket which shutter release is controlled by brain.

optical zoom optional (by means of telescope, LOL )

so now we will NEVER have those moment where we go "darn i wish i brought my camera along"
 02/14/2006 03:37:25 AM · #37
built into a pair of sunglasses and the camera is in the bridge. The shade of the glasses is controled by the camera. The control runs down your arm and is all done in the palm of your hand some display pops up on the inside of the glasses like camera settings and stuff. Would be cool if a flap flips down and when you want to use a zoom or focus it just bends the glass or reshapes it to the correct curve. Maybe use water somehow and control the water shape with air.
 02/14/2006 04:08:39 AM · #38
Originally posted by BowerR64:
built into a pair of sunglasses and the camera is in the bridge. The shade of the glasses is controled by the camera. The control runs down your arm and is all done in the palm of your hand some display pops up on the inside of the glasses like camera settings and stuff. Would be cool if a flap flips down and when you want to use a zoom or focus it just bends the glass or reshapes it to the correct curve. Maybe use water somehow and control the water shape with air.


I think flexible glass is what we should be looking at.
not something of our era, most likely :(
 02/14/2006 04:21:58 AM · #39
Originally posted by Azrifel:
A very small compact body, with a fixed 24mm f/2 prime lens by Leica or Zeiss. The Canon 1D II 8mp 1.3x crop sensor, with the Bayer filter removed to get true full resolution b&w (that makes the resolution equal to an 8mp foveon, because you don't have to interpolate the colors anymore).
No ttl viewfinder, but a big bright 0.95x magnification optical viewfinder at the side. Manual focus with the rangefinder system.


You, like me, basically want a CMOS + DIGIC II sensor/processor on the back of a Leica. Why any of them think there's no market for that I've no idea ...

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 02/14/2006 08:31:13 AM · #40
actually I think Epson makes a rangefinder type camera. I don't think it sold very well, partly because those guys think that they can get away with anything with a good name brand.

It was just the same as any other P&S (when considering internal components and their production costs) but had a lens mount on the front.

I seem to recall that the Epson had a Leica mount, but I could also be wrong there.

Azrifel, that's a really interesting idea there. Removing the color filter on the sensor would potentially triple the light reaching the sensor. It would certainly make an interesting tool. You might run into dynamic range issues though. Hard to say. The 1d Mk II sensor has phenomenal dynamic range. Increased sensitivity like that would probably gain 2 stops in overall ISO type sensitivity too, meaning the ISO range in low light would exhibit REALLY low noise. Too bad I'm not really interested in shooting everything in B&W.

Sad that these companies like Rollei and Leica are so high on themselves that they can't have the sense to put out a product that is both fairly/competitively priced AND has their quality touch. They don't realize that they are in a new market and they can't just rest on their laurels.

Message edited by author 2006-02-14 08:35:27.
 02/14/2006 08:35:31 AM · #41
Originally posted by Azrifel:
A very small compact body, with a fixed 24mm f/2 prime lens by Leica or Zeiss.


yup, but make it a 1.4 ... for $150 don't forget :)
 02/14/2006 08:47:52 AM · #42
Oh yeah, check out THIS for you guys wanting prime lenses on a pocketable camera.

The new TZ series by Panasonic looks promising for pocket shooters too. Too bad it still has the 1/2.5" sensor. Good news though is that it has extra pixels for increasing dynamic range and doesn't walk the dangerous waters of 8MP on that size of sensor. The lens appears to be F/2.8 to F4.2, but it's small! No flip and twist LCD either. Good job anyways Panasonic!
 02/14/2006 10:27:53 AM · #43
A donkey cam 2000?
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