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03/10/2006 01:20:08 AM · #1 |
I cant help but wonder whether one would get a much more aquerate vote in the member's area (member's challenges)than being in the non-member's area? (Open challenges)
Do you?
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03/10/2006 01:25:33 AM · #2 |
About the same. I think members vote more regularly in the open challenges than registered users do. So, you are looking at mostly the same voters. I could be wrong, but that's my assumption, based mostly on comments during voting.
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03/10/2006 01:30:48 AM · #3 |
But in member's challenges, there's usually a lot less entries, and most of them are 'more refined' if you will?
Which not only means the standard is a little higher, but it would also make sense that the members would vote more... open mindedly, if not a little more professionally?
I could be wrong?
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03/10/2006 01:36:15 AM · #4 |
Perhaps, a little less so-called "troll" voting in the member's challenges and maybe a little more tolerant to ideas. Yes, you are probably right.
I wouldn't say they are more refined, yes you can do more editting, but the good ones don't need a LOT of advanced editting.
I would say that the voters and commenters in the member's challenges are a bit more cordial.
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03/10/2006 01:39:41 AM · #5 |
@Guyver
I'm not a member; and tr to take voting in open challenges seriously. Many other registered users are the same. Nonetheless I agree with the sentiment. The member challenges lack the shots I am forced to give 1 - 3 to in the open challenges; and member voting does seem (to me) to be more considered.
@fotoman
Can't say I agree with you. I think (as a generalisation) members are better commentors - both in terms of quality and quantity. There are exceptions, of course. So the pool of comentators is similar, but the pool of voters is different.
Me thinks.
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03/10/2006 01:44:34 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by PaulE:
@fotoman
I think (as a generalisation) members are better commentors - both in terms of quality and quantity.
Me thinks. |
I'd agree to that.
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03/10/2006 03:36:04 AM · #7 |
| So it pays to become a member :) |
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03/10/2006 03:42:42 AM · #8 |
Nah, not really. Not for me at any rate. It's th ecomment that I'm after. Anyway, I'm travelling a lot these days so it isn't worth it as I won't have access to internet a lot of the time.
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03/10/2006 03:59:15 AM · #9 |
I agree that members or otherwise more established photographers wil be able to judge and thus vote more proffesionaly on an image but is there really such a thing as a better voter? Isn't it all in the eye of the beholder?
Photgraphy is about showing someone else your vision of things and if they like it they like it (5 and up), if they don't they don't (5 and down).
My 2cents.
Edit: as far as comments go I believe it is somewhat the same. Members tend to give more usefull comments techniqlly (SP) , but a comments like "great shot" from a non-member or no-camera voter can be just as valuable.
Message edited by author 2006-03-10 04:06:04. |
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03/10/2006 05:29:20 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Refwhett:
I agree that members or otherwise more established photographers wil be able to judge and thus vote more proffesionaly on an image but is there really such a thing as a better voter? Isn't it all in the eye of the beholder? |
Yes and no... I'd like to think that a larger percentage of the members are able to check their personal prejudices at the door and vote images on photographic merit instead of how closely they depict the voter's personal preferences.
For me, the ideal voter is one who can give a 10 to a perfect spider shot even though s/he suffers from arachnophobia. Or give a 9 to a flawless "flowers on black" arrangement even though s/he's getting damned tired of flowers-on-black.
For me, "deficient" voters are the ones who say "I'm tired of seeing so many of "X", so I'm voting all "X" down." Or who enter a challenge with a specific concept of what the "correct" approach to it is, and make no effort to vote outside that personal box and appreciate other, equally-valid "solutions" to the challenge.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2006-03-10 05:29:40.
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03/10/2006 09:43:59 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Yes and no... I'd like to think that a larger percentage of the members are able to check their personal prejudices at the door and vote images on photographic merit instead of how closely they depict the voter's personal preferences.
For me, the ideal voter is one who can give a 10 to a perfect spider shot even though s/he suffers from arachnophobia. Or give a 9 to a flawless "flowers on black" arrangement even though s/he's getting damned tired of flowers-on-black.
For me, "deficient" voters are the ones who say "I'm tired of seeing so many of "X", so I'm voting all "X" down." Or who enter a challenge with a specific concept of what the "correct" approach to it is, and make no effort to vote outside that personal box and appreciate other, equally-valid "solutions" to the challenge.
Robt. |
Why on earth should I have to check my personal preferences at the door? I don't think anyone can really do that, absolutely, even if they wanted to try. Those who say they can do so are likely fooling themselves. Each of us is human and brings their own perspective to voting. Collectively, we voters are always correct. Why should we all try to imitate a concept of what the "ideal voter" is instead of being ourselves? Too phoney.
Personally, I don't care much for black and white and usually score an entry lower just because it is B&W. And I don't care much for shallow depth of field, especially in macro shots, so they usually don't score well with me either. Detectable levels of dodge & burn also cost most entries a point or more. What's wrong with me applying my own taste when voting? And being honest enough to admit it instead of pretending to be Mister Perfect Objectivity when I'm not?
Would be quite boring if we were all like your "ideal voter", and the results of challenges would be quite predictable.
To me, the only "deficient" voter is the one who doesn't reach the 20% minimum.
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