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03/27/2006 08:02:41 PM · #301
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

If the rules allowed us to DQ the ribbon winners that weren't 2 seconds, I would vote to do so in a heartbeat.

To the ribbon winners who did not have two second photos: For better or worse, this challenge ran on an honor system. How you choose to handle this situation says more about your honor than I can in this post. Were I in your shoes, I know what I would do.

~Terry


Lets hope the site doesn't deteriote further where all challenge topics will no longer have an impact anymore. sad.
03/27/2006 08:22:17 PM · #302
Originally posted by GIS_boy:

Originally posted by tryals15:

Originally posted by Gatorguy:

Originally posted by brizmama:

Were either being carried by a swallow?


What KIND of swallow?


Probably a non-migratory one... =]


It could grip it by the husk...

It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.


Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?

03/27/2006 08:29:03 PM · #303
Originally posted by crayon:

Lets hope the site doesn't deteriote further where all challenge topics will no longer have an impact anymore. sad.
Sometimes I think that is the goal of some of the leaders of this community, both those with and without official positions.

It occurs to me that the current problem is similiar enough to the one that arose after the 4:00-5:00 a.m. challenge that we maybe could have expected it to have been remedied by now, or at least that there will not be another repetition. I hope that the eventual solution is not the elimination of the technical challenges.
03/27/2006 08:29:18 PM · #304
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Ummm, as one of the resident geeks, I have to inform you that to get a time dilation factor to compress the 2 minute song into 2 seconds (0.0167), you would have to travel at approximately 99.86% of the speed of light, not 50%, which would only give you a factor of 0.865.


Ah, no wonder my focus was a little off! (that's why I didn't submit the photo... those damn focus nazis!)

MY question would be whether the energy released by the impact of the combined mass of a photographer and a pop singer at 1/2C would be sufficient to divert Earth out into the vicinity of the Oort Cloud ...


I give my word that no swallows, pop stars or heavenly bodies were hurt during the taking of my photograph.
03/27/2006 08:34:00 PM · #305
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by coolhar:


The fatal flaw in this argument is that the rules, at present, allow for DQ for violating the spirit of the rules, not of the challenge....


As do others, I think this is a lesson well learned.

We have enough semantic rule bending in everyday life without having to struggle through it on this exceptionally well run and worthwhile site (where I spend way too much time).

I don't want to wonder if the image maker complied with the Challenge description, I want to know the image maker complied with the description.

P.S. Barn Swallow. Those guys seem to be able to carry the world!

03/27/2006 08:36:20 PM · #306
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Originally posted by GIS_boy:

Originally posted by tryals15:

Originally posted by Gatorguy:

Originally posted by brizmama:

Were either being carried by a swallow?


What KIND of swallow?


Probably a non-migratory one... =]


It could grip it by the husk...

It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.


Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?


Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
03/27/2006 08:40:16 PM · #307

he is thrown over the edge into the volcano...

03/27/2006 08:42:26 PM · #308
Originally posted by soup:

he is thrown over the edge into the volcano...


The Volcano God belches, and a path appears leading down from the rim...
03/27/2006 08:54:24 PM · #309
Originally posted by GIS_boy:

Originally posted by LoudDog:

Originally posted by GIS_boy:

Originally posted by tryals15:

Originally posted by Gatorguy:

Originally posted by brizmama:

Were either being carried by a swallow?


What KIND of swallow?


Probably a non-migratory one... =]


It could grip it by the husk...

It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.


Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?


Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?


Please!

03/27/2006 08:57:38 PM · #310
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by soup:

he is thrown over the edge into the volcano...


The Volcano God belches, and a path appears leading down from the rim...


Scortching the village of angry photographers below.
03/27/2006 09:26:10 PM · #311
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by soup:

he is thrown over the edge into the volcano...


The Volcano God belches, and a path appears leading down from the rim...


Scortching the village of angry photographers below.


03/28/2006 12:57:03 AM · #312
But now where is the picture with all the woodies wearing the "more technical challenges" tee-shirts?

How about a challenge where you've got to take a picture with a lens that isn't attached to a DSLR? *rushes off to post*
03/28/2006 07:53:26 AM · #313
I put this example as a comment on the photo, don't know if has been said in this thread already since I did not reat the whole lot.

Well,if you think about it like this:
the winner in high jump is the "pole vaulter" jumping over 5m high.
03/28/2006 07:58:27 AM · #314
No, he's the winner in the 'pole vault' :)
03/28/2006 08:06:46 AM · #315
The analogy I gave my husband last night - particularly accurate, as the photographer in question is a teenager and likely in school - is this :

Imagine a teacher hands out an assigment and requests a 2-page essay on the subject of your choice.

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.

Sure, you may get props for the technical writing portion, but you will likely still fail the assignment for ignoring the directions of "2 pages".
03/28/2006 08:19:00 AM · #316
Originally posted by kashi:

The analogy I gave my husband last night - particularly accurate, as the photographer in question is a teenager and likely in school - is this :

Imagine a teacher hands out an assigment and requests a 2-page essay on the subject of your choice.

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.

Sure, you may get props for the technical writing portion, but you will likely still fail the assignment for ignoring the directions of "2 pages".


Very accurate analogy. :)
03/28/2006 08:26:45 AM · #317
Originally posted by ShutterPug:

Originally posted by kashi:

The analogy I gave my husband last night - particularly accurate, as the photographer in question is a teenager and likely in school - is this :

Imagine a teacher hands out an assigment and requests a 2-page essay on the subject of your choice.

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.

Sure, you may get props for the technical writing portion, but you will likely still fail the assignment for ignoring the directions of "2 pages".


Very accurate analogy. :)


and an example of what's so horribly wrong about public education. In any other context, if you can get your point across in one fourth the time you will be greatly rewarded.
03/28/2006 08:30:00 AM · #318
Originally posted by posthumous:



and an example of what's so horribly wrong about public education. In any other context, if you can get your point across in one fourth the time you will be greatly rewarded.


but you missed the true point here - you get graded down for not listening and following the details of the assignment.
03/28/2006 08:32:09 AM · #319
Sheesh, enough with the personal attacks. Being a teenager seems to me to be irrelevant. And it's a terrible analogy, because a student would be marked down for entering a 1/2 page essay in place of a 2 page essay. Not many students would voluntarily make it 2 pages instead of 1/2 page if they still got the same mark.
03/28/2006 08:33:57 AM · #320
Originally posted by ShutterPug:

Originally posted by kashi:

The analogy I gave my husband last night - particularly accurate, as the photographer in question is a teenager and likely in school - is this :

Imagine a teacher hands out an assigment and requests a 2-page essay on the subject of your choice.

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.

Sure, you may get props for the technical writing portion, but you will likely still fail the assignment for ignoring the directions of "2 pages".


Very accurate analogy. :)


Not accurate at all, the teacher specified before giving the assignment that you would NOT be penalized/failed for submitting an essay that's shorter than 2 pages.
03/28/2006 08:34:19 AM · #321
The saga continues................. ;-}
03/28/2006 08:36:05 AM · #322
Originally posted by doctornick:


Not accurate at all, the teacher specified before giving the assignment that you would NOT be penalized/failed for submitting an essay that's shorter than 2 pages.


This is VERY TRUE. Eventhough it shouldn't be.
03/28/2006 08:38:02 AM · #323
Originally posted by kashi:

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.


The answer is simple... increase the size of the margin wide enough until the text fills two pages :)
03/28/2006 08:43:43 AM · #324
Originally posted by alanfreed:

Originally posted by kashi:

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.


The answer is simple... increase the size of the margin wide enough until the text fills two pages :)


Now why did I never think of that? Oh yeah, I HAVE... LOL, works pretty well, too.

But you forgot font size and spacing and that double spaced can sometimes mean a bit more than doubled spaced. :-)
03/28/2006 08:46:24 AM · #325
Originally posted by alanfreed:

Originally posted by kashi:

You research, write and rewrite several 2-page essays, but your best effort and most accurate essay is only 1/2 page long. You hand that in.


The answer is simple... increase the size of the margin wide enough until the text fills two pages :)


That sounds exactly like what you did for your image...

I'd give you an A+ for both concept and execution. Well done.
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