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07/19/2006 05:30:47 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Originally posted by JPetraliaX:
Not sure if anybody covered this yet... But what if your camera was in black and white mode? This wouldn't violate the rules, per se, but it doesn't seem like it would be in the spirit of the challenge. Any thoughts? |
Actually the rules say you will be DQ'ed if you shoot in B&W mode on your camera.
Also note that shooting in or post-processing to black/white will result in DQ |
Thanks... I must suffer from selective reading... |
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07/19/2006 09:47:14 PM · #77 |
| For the B /W Challenge, I guess you would shoot a Zebra or a penguin? Is that the gist of it? |
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07/19/2006 09:58:37 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by Karalew:
For the B /W Challenge, I guess you would shoot a Zebra or a penguin? Is that the gist of it? |
Or:
White Rice and Black Olives
Okay, so I could give away lots of ideas, but I might get lynched if I give away to many peoples' ideas. |
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07/19/2006 10:01:53 PM · #79 |
Ivory and Ebony... take that anyway you want.
Salt-n-Pepper --- ahhhh Push It :-)
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07/20/2006 12:21:18 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by Karalew:
For the B /W Challenge, I guess you would shoot a Zebra or a penguin? Is that the gist of it? |
So here is a question, lets say I take a shot of a zebra. But I want the black stripes to be darker so I adjust shadows. Is this allowed as I still converted the default captured color to get what I want?
After you answer that one, lets say the color is a very dark brown or the whites came out as light grey. Would it still be illegal then if I adjusted the brightness/contrast once again to make it look more like black and/or white? An actual desaturation was not applied?
The rules here are going to be tough as with advanced editing everyone will want to enhance their shot, but they got to be careful that the enhancement was not to achieve black/white but to enchance the black & white. Everyone will have different opinions here I would assume. GL SC! |
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07/20/2006 12:31:10 PM · #81 |
Also note that shooting in or post-processing to black/white will result in DQ.
Maybe I'm too relaxed about these things, but I just took this to mean no desecrate, channel mixer-monochrome, convert to greyscale. If you shoot black and white objects and adjust them back to orig colors that should be OK. |
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07/20/2006 05:30:59 PM · #82 |
err... so for the b/w subject in colour... can the pic have any obvious colour? like surrounding the b/w subject?
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07/20/2006 05:33:19 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by bluezamia:
Also note that shooting in or post-processing to black/white will result in DQ.
Maybe I'm too relaxed about these things, but I just took this to mean no desecrate, channel mixer-monochrome, convert to greyscale. If you shoot black and white objects and adjust them back to orig colors that should be OK. |
This is exactly how I took it, but a friend of mine thought a different way. He figured any modification of the color at all results in DQ. I just don't see this, but then ya never know.
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07/20/2006 05:39:56 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by saintaugust:
err... so for the b/w subject in colour... can the pic have any obvious colour? like surrounding the b/w subject? |
My opinion, as a voter and someone who is planning to shoot for this...colour in the frame will cost a point or two for me. having colour makes it not a B&W image anymore ;) |
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07/20/2006 05:53:54 PM · #85 |
| i understand the B&W one. but does the other means like: taking a picture to an orange on an orange brackground? and if so, can i change the saturation and levels of the picture?? |
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07/20/2006 06:19:48 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by saintaugust:
err... so for the b/w subject in colour... can the pic have any obvious colour? like surrounding the b/w subject? |
I won't mark down for it. The challenge says the subject should be black and white. But mine is a broad interpretation...
"Take a COLOR photo of a black & white (or grayscale) subject or subjects."
Subject must be black & white or gray. Doesn't say ANYTHING about background being any specific color
"Conversion/desaturation to black and white or shooting in black and white is NOT allowed."
If you shoot an orange and desat it, I will score it low and someone else will probably vote to DQ you. If I don't know if its naturally black and white, I'll assume you know what you photographed and vote accordingly (not mark down). |
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07/20/2006 06:45:42 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by Nuzzer:
My opinion, as a voter and someone who is planning to shoot for this...colour in the frame will cost a point or two for me. having colour makes it not a B&W image anymore ;) |
I foresee you voting down alot of images in this challenge then. I think Dahkota interprets it pretty fairly in that the subject should be black and white while it says nothing about the background being b&w. With my attempts at my shot I realized that there was very little chance of me getting everything black and white - even with a black and white subjct and a black background. |
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07/20/2006 06:49:02 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
Originally posted by Nuzzer:
My opinion, as a voter and someone who is planning to shoot for this...colour in the frame will cost a point or two for me. having colour makes it not a B&W image anymore ;) |
I foresee you voting down alot of images in this challenge then. I think Dahkota interprets it pretty fairly in that the subject should be black and white while it says nothing about the background being b&w. With my attempts at my shot I realized that there was very little chance of me getting everything black and white - even with a black and white subjct and a black background. |
Yes, fairly pointed out. I'll chill a bit on that interpretation then :) |
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07/21/2006 07:38:42 AM · #89 |
Originally posted by grisstxs:
i understand the B&W one. but does the other means like: taking a picture to an orange on an orange brackground? and if so, can i change the saturation and levels of the picture?? |
Since this is advanced editing I think you could legally take a picture of an orange on a yellow background and use saturation etc (applied only to the background) to create an orange on an orange background.
Does everyone agree? |
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07/21/2006 07:51:10 AM · #90 |
Don't yet know how to post photos directly on here! Nor do I know if this is legal, but...
I want to know if you would consider this to be meeting the "Color on Color" challenge. Sometimes I am told that I don't meet a challenge when I though I have. Here is the photo:
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_submit.php?CHALLENGE_ID=528
Thanks for the input! |
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07/21/2006 07:57:43 AM · #91 |
Originally posted by MeGoobie:
Don't yet know how to post photos directly on here! Nor do I know if this is legal, but...
I want to know if you would consider this to be meeting the "Color on Color" challenge. Sometimes I am told that I don't meet a challenge when I though I have. Here is the photo:
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_submit.php?CHALLENGE_ID=528
Thanks for the input! |
that is a link to the challenge details, not the image. Are you linking to a photo in your profile or one you submitted to the challenge (the later would be a no no. Plus it is hidden until voting)?
Message edited by author 2006-07-21 07:58:50. |
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07/21/2006 07:58:12 AM · #92 |
Originally posted by MeGoobie:
Don't yet know how to post photos directly on here! Nor do I know if this is legal, but...
I want to know if you would consider this to be meeting the "Color on Color" challenge. Sometimes I am told that I don't meet a challenge when I though I have. Here is the photo:
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_submit.php?CHALLENGE_ID=528
Thanks for the input! |
Your link doesn't work. You can not link to a challenge entry for a challenge that has not yet begun voting. I don't think the SC would allow it even if the voting has begun. The voting is anonymous; linking to your entry would expose you as the photographer.
You can post images to your portfolio and link to them. However,, I do not recommend that you post an image you want to enter in a challenge to your public portfolio for the same reasons stated above.
Good luck! |
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07/21/2006 09:42:23 AM · #93 |
| Thank you. I am still having trouble sorting out what is acceptable and what is not. It didn't seem quite right, but I wasn't sure. Thanks again! |
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07/21/2006 03:40:44 PM · #94 |
Here are some color on color samples I promised to post. None are outtakes and the most recent one was taken more than 3months ago. Hope it's ok to post em'? I plan to get my feet wet for the "B&W in Colour" challenge ;)
  
  
The pin shot though, it was not desaturated in photoshop or in camera, would seem to fit both the b/w and color on color challenge.
Message edited by author 2006-07-21 15:50:44. |
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07/21/2006 03:46:11 PM · #95 |
I have a question, at the "advanced editing" challenges, it is permited to add texture filters?
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07/21/2006 03:47:27 PM · #96 |
| I interpret the B&W challenge to mean exactly what it says. Your subjects must be naturally black and white (or pretty damn close) while not making it so in photoshop. That's it. Sure you can have something of color in the shot but you better do a FANTASTIC job of not confusing that as the subject, which IMO would be very difficult to achieve if your actual subject is not in color. If you can't do that then I'd suggest not including anything of color in your shot. |
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07/21/2006 03:52:41 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by gulliverita:
I have a question, at the "advanced editing" challenges, it is permited to add texture filters? |
The relevant sections of the rules:
Selective Editing: Adjustments can be made selectively to your photo. Cloning, dodging, burning, etc. to improve your photo or remove imperfections or minor distracting elements, etc. is acceptable. However, using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted.
Filters: At your discretion, you may apply filters to your photo, in whole or part. (Be aware that extensively altering the "look" of your photograph with an "effects" filter is often not well received by voters.)
Note that in the first section it says you can't add a major element. IN the other section it says you can use filters "at your discretion". The texture area is a gray area; certainly, if you overpower the image with texture applied in PP it will be considered a "major element" and a DQ will result. Where do you draw the line? Good question.
Caution is called for here.
R.
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07/21/2006 03:55:58 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by gulliverita:
I have a question, at the "advanced editing" challenges, it is permited to add texture filters? |
The relevant sections of the rules:
Selective Editing: Adjustments can be made selectively to your photo. Cloning, dodging, burning, etc. to improve your photo or remove imperfections or minor distracting elements, etc. is acceptable. However, using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted.
Filters: At your discretion, you may apply filters to your photo, in whole or part. (Be aware that extensively altering the "look" of your photograph with an "effects" filter is often not well received by voters.)
Note that in the first section it says you can't add a major element. IN the other section it says you can use filters "at your discretion". The texture area is a gray area; certainly, if you overpower the image with texture applied in PP it will be considered a "major element" and a DQ will result. Where do you draw the line? Good question.
Caution is called for here.
R. |
I recently asked the same question and was told by a SC member my crack in one of my photos would be a DQ because of it being a major element, so I would say that Robert is most definantly correct here.
edited to add the thred: here
Message edited by author 2006-07-21 15:57:07. |
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07/21/2006 03:59:19 PM · #99 |
Hmmm... now I am confused! I readed the rules, and post precess my picture, and add a texture filter to the backround `cause it look cool.. But now I am thinking it may end discualiffied, even if the backrownd is not the most important element on the picture.. can I ask a "judge" or something to watch at the picture and tell me if it is ok?
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07/21/2006 04:08:11 PM · #100 |
Originally posted by gulliverita:
Hmmm... now I am confused! I readed the rules, and post precess my picture, and add a texture filter to the backround `cause it look cool.. But now I am thinking it may end discualiffied, even if the backrownd is not the most important element on the picture.. can I ask a "judge" or something to watch at the picture and tell me if it is ok? |
I think you can submit a help ticket and ask a SC member to look at it but remember that it will be just one persons opinion and a DQ is put to a vote. |
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