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07/22/2006 10:03:40 PM · #1 |
I don't understand why disabling the right click is "unprofessional". I don't want anyone downloading the images I have on my website to reprint. This is the whole reason why I have prices on them so I can sell them. Could someone or all of you give me your versions on this topic.
Thanks....g
PS Its apparent that I'm having a bad english day. See title
Message edited by author 2006-07-22 22:05:41.
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07/22/2006 10:08:38 PM · #2 |
This is not unprofessional. It would be unprofessional to assume that one can take photos willy-nilly of your site and use them as one may will.
There are, however, other ways to get around this, and disabling right click is simply an annoyance when you can do a screen capture, and crop that image.
I would be watermarking any pictures I took anyways. Copyright: Gayle bla de bla.
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07/22/2006 10:08:56 PM · #3 |
If I press Print Screen on my keyboard I can steal them anyway. Or I can look at the page source and download them directly from their URL. Right Click Blocking does nothing to stop thieves, yet it only hinders people who might want to right click for other reasons such as mouse gestures, etc. The only way you can really stop people is by putting a watermark across your images.
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07/22/2006 10:21:28 PM · #4 |
It's unprofessional because it hinders use, just as Konador said. If you opened a gallery, would you make clients ask "pretty please" before letting them in? No. That's unprofessional, you want clients to be free to enter at their leisure and browse your work unhindered.
It's also an ugly pain in the.... for most geeks, so we make it our personal mission in life to point and laugh at those who insist on using the script.
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07/22/2006 10:29:25 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Lozza:
It's unprofessional because it hinders use...
It's also an ugly pain in the.... |
Why do you say this? What other use do you have for the following choices available on right-clicking an image that you can't do from the browser menu (except for making it easier to get a quick copy of the image you've right-clicked on)?
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07/22/2006 10:32:54 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Lozza:
It's unprofessional because it hinders use...
It's also an ugly pain in the.... |
Why do you say this? What other use do you have for the following choices available on right-clicking an image that you can't do from the browser menu (except for making it easier to get a quick copy of the image you've right-clicked on)?
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eh... you're right, but it just condenses everything and makes browsing more efficient without searching through menus, etc.
it's similar to why there are key shortcuts in PS. sure we can just go up to brush options to change the brush size but instead we can press the brackets to increase efficiency...
imo these drop down menus and such are just us trying to do things as quickly as possible, which is how we like it with computers.
Message edited by author 2006-07-22 22:33:33. |
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07/22/2006 10:34:32 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Lozza:
It's unprofessional because it hinders use, just as Konador said. If you opened a gallery, would you make clients ask "pretty please" before letting them in? No. That's unprofessional, you want clients to be free to enter at their leisure and browse your work unhindered. |
What in the world does right click have to do with browsing?
BTW, if you opened a gallery, let people walk in without so much as a "how do you do?", and let them photograph your work with their own camera so that they could reprint it themselves, not only would YOU be unprofessional, you'd be a moron.
In this case, all they could get is an extremly crappy 4x6 at most, but still.
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07/22/2006 10:38:49 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Lozza:
It's unprofessional because it hinders use...
It's also an ugly pain in the.... |
Why do you say this? What other use do you have for the following choices available on right-clicking an image that you can't do from the browser menu (except for making it easier to get a quick copy of the image you've right-clicked on)?
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To view page source code, to refresh, to go back, to copy text... a million other things (well ok, maybe not a million) but in essence, the right mouse click menu was developed for good reasons and people resent forced restrictions on their browsing habits.
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07/22/2006 10:43:21 PM · #9 |
The answer is simple... if you work is so important you can't risk having anyone steal it, don't put it on the Internet. The End.
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07/22/2006 10:44:45 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
BTW, if you opened a gallery, let people walk in without so much as a "how do you do?", and let them photograph your work with their own camera so that they could reprint it themselves, not only would YOU be unprofessional, you'd be a moron. |
You'd be a moron to think the disable right mouse click would stop folk from stealing your images. The only safe guard is watermarking.
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07/22/2006 10:47:11 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Lozza:
... To view page source code, to refresh, to go back, to copy text... a million other things (well ok, maybe not a million) but in essence, the right mouse click menu was developed for good reasons and people resent forced restrictions on their browsing habits. |
Aren't we talking about right-click on images? A right-click event can be captured for images only (various methods), leaving non-image areas available for context menus. The primary reason people complain about not having right-click available on images is because they want to use the image manipulation menu choices available for images only.
...to refresh (F5)
...to go back (Alt-Left Arrow)
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07/22/2006 10:48:04 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by alanfreed:
The answer is simple... if you work is so important you can't risk having anyone steal it, don't put it on the Internet. The End. |
Absolutely! |
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07/22/2006 10:48:45 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Lozza:
You'd be a moron to think the disable right mouse click would stop folk from stealing your images. The only safe guard is watermarking. |
It will stop many casual users...FWIW. |
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07/22/2006 10:52:47 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Lozza:
You'd be a moron to think the disable right mouse click would stop folk from stealing your images. The only safe guard is watermarking. |
Considering I already said that.... umm, yeah. anyways.
It's her gallery, private property, and if she feels like it, whatever.
I didn't call you a moron BTW, I just said you would be, no need to get all upset here.
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07/22/2006 10:53:26 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Aren't we talking about right-click on images? A right-click event can be captured for images only (various methods), leaving non-image areas available for context menus. The primary reason people complain about not having right-click available on images is because they want to use the image manipulation menu choices available for images only. |
I saw an earlier thread Gayle posted about her website and I believe she has the script running on the entire page.
Originally posted by glad2badad:
...to refresh (F5)
...to go back (Alt-Left Arrow) |
But that would mean I'd have to put my cigarette down... :P
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07/22/2006 10:53:40 PM · #16 |
| I live in a place where high speed internet is not available, and neither is cable internet. So I can only surf via a very slow 28.8 dial up connection. I use NetZero High-Speed. If you aren't familiar with how their high-speed system works, it loads all images on your browser at whatever quality you set. I have mine set to load all images at 20% quality so they can download fast. If I'm on here browsing and want to see a photo in full quality, I right click on the photo and choose "View image in full quality". The only way to do this is by clicking on the image. I wouldn't want to spend much time at a photographer's website where I couldn't view the images in full quality. |
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07/22/2006 10:56:09 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Considering I already said that.... umm, yeah. anyways.
I didn't call you a moron BTW, I just said you would be, no need to get all upset here. |
Yes, I know, and I agree :)
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07/22/2006 10:56:45 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
What other use do you have for the following choices available on right-clicking an image that you can't do from the browser menu (except for making it easier to get a quick copy of the image you've right-clicked on)?
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This is a portion of my right click menu 
If you think it stops anybody except the incompetent then you are kidding yourself; the only safe way is to never put an image online. It is unprofessional from a UI perspective but more to the point it's arrogant to assume you own the users browser - this includes resizing e.t.c.
If you want to do it and think it protects your images and does not drive users off the site then have at it - but you are living a delusion. |
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07/22/2006 10:58:00 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by ibkc:
I live in a place where high speed internet is not available, and neither is cable internet. So I can only surf via a very slow 28.8 dial up connection. I use NetZero High-Speed. If you aren't familiar with how their high-speed system works, it loads all images on your browser at whatever quality you set. I have mine set to load all images at 20% quality so they can download fast. If I'm on here browsing and want to see a photo in full quality, I right click on the photo and choose "View image in full quality". The only way to do this is by clicking on the image. I wouldn't want to spend much time at a photographer's website where I couldn't view the images in full quality. |
I have all mine in flash galleries (on my currently soon to be not so crappy as it currently is site), so I guess that means that NetZero ppl would just skip mine alltogether? Or do those load fast enough?
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07/22/2006 11:02:36 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
I have all mine in flash galleries (on my currently soon to be not so crappy as it currently is site), so I guess that means that NetZero ppl would just skip mine alltogether? Or do those load fast enough? |
Honestly, I don't bother with flash web pages. Because whenever I go there it automatically loads them at 20% quality. Then, there's no way whatsoever to get them load full quality without a lot of effort. The only way to do it would be to empty my browser cache file, open the setting of netzero high speed, and set all images to load at 100%, then go back to the website, and fix everything back when I get through. |
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07/22/2006 11:02:38 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by robs:
It is unprofessional from a UI perspective but more to the point it's arrogant to assume you own the users browser - this includes resizing e.t.c. |
err, how does this cause ownership of the browser?
Really, I'm not intending on implementing anything like this, but I don't get why people seem to be so upset about it. Most websites have terms of service and copyright notices and some such, and it's up to you to use them in a proper manner, and the admin set rules on who can go where on thier page and access what... right?
Yeah, as mentioned a million times already, it's not going to keep your images safe at all.
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07/22/2006 11:04:54 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by alanfreed:
The answer is simple... if you work is so important you can't risk having anyone steal it, don't put it on the Internet. The End. |
Hang on there....my work is important and I'd like to make some money from it. So don't I have the right to protect my investment? It seems that people are getting awfully upset at something they really shouldn't be doing in the first place. Isn't stealing a crime?
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07/22/2006 11:06:16 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
What other use do you have for the following choices available on right-clicking an image that you can't do from the browser menu (except for making it easier to get a quick copy of the image you've right-clicked on)?
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This is a portion of my right click menu
If you think it stops anybody except the incompetent then you are kidding yourself; the only safe way is to never put an image online. It is unprofessional from a UI perspective but more to the point it's arrogant to assume you own the users browser - this includes resizing e.t.c.
If you want to do it and think it protects your images and does not drive users off the site then have at it - but you are living a delusion. |
Hi Rob - Not sure if you are responding directly to me, or posting in general response to all...
In an earlier post I mentioned that right-click will stop the casual user from easily grabbing images.
I agree with your sentiment about not posting an image if you're worried about it being grabbed - there are too many ways available for it to be (rather easily) obtained.
The right-click menu image I posted was from an image directly. As for what you've posted - is that what you get be right-clicking an image, or is it a regular context menu from right-clicking on the loaded web page? I'm not a mozilla user. |
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07/22/2006 11:10:43 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
As for what you've posted - is that what you get be right-clicking an image |
Just to the comment I saw from an IE centric view. Yup, it's active over an image because most options relate the the site not the context - there are a few options that change based on if it's context is an image or something else. |
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07/22/2006 11:11:04 PM · #25 |
Look I didn't mean to start something here. I'm just getting started. I didn't put the right click on there to be arrogant, self centered or self important. I just wanted to protect the images. I want people to see them. I have tweaked the images so that they are bigger and you can see better. I'm not an expert at this but I'm not a moron either. I just wanted to ask the question but apparently its overly important for someone like Alanfreed to be able to right click and blow my image up. Why is it so bad that I want to protect what I have but still want to have it out there to look. Its not denying anyone from seeing the image, they see it. But if they want it, I have it for sale.
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PS well right click disable doesn't even work...so anyone that wants to steal my images or anyone elses...they can.
Message edited by author 2006-07-22 23:17:09.
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