diagonals: post your slanted scores here

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

12/01/2006 11:14:36 PM · #151

<--- loser

wavelength

Nikon D300

12/01/2006 11:15:33 PM · #152

Originally posted by alfresco:

<--- loser

Technically, everyone who doesn't win a ribbon is a "loser" JP.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

12/01/2006 11:24:11 PM · #153

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by alfresco:
<--- loser

Technically, everyone who doesn't win a ribbon is a "loser" JP.

I've become good at losing, I'm a first rate loser!!

Blue Moon

Canon EOS-40D

12/02/2006 05:58:09 PM · #154

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Yesssss...I passed my highest rated photo. I know it's pretty low compared to y'all, but hey--it's a start :)

Blue Moon

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

12/02/2006 07:42:05 PM · #155

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Yay, someone gave me a 9 :D

I really wouldn't be so estatic, but my light on white is at a solid 4.6 :(

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scotthadl

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

12/03/2006 02:39:39 AM · #156

I wonder how many of the images getting hammered are great diagonal compositions but don't include an actual diagonal line. sitting at 4.5

jerowe

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/03/2006 09:18:27 AM · #157

Avg: 5.25

coming up some, but just don't get it. i thought for sure this would be a 6+ :D

oh well, good luck everyone.

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

12/03/2006 09:21:22 AM · #158

Originally posted by scotthadl:

I wonder how many of the images getting hammered are great diagonal compositions but don't include an actual diagonal line. sitting at 4.5

The challenge description clearly says it doesn't need to include a diagonal line, but I too got a comment saying "there is a diagonal sense, but no line"..... wtf??

12/03/2006 09:34:06 AM · #159

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by scotthadl:
I wonder how many of the images getting hammered are great diagonal compositions but don't include an actual diagonal line. sitting at 4.5

The challenge description clearly says it doesn't need to include a diagonal line, but I too got a comment saying "there is a diagonal sense, but no line"..... wtf??

This is why I feel the challenge topic and description should be written above each entry when voting, then there's no excuse for lame-ass comments like you received.

hanneke

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/03/2006 09:35:17 AM · #160

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not a high-commenting-challenge..
happy with the 6.1 :D

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

12/03/2006 02:13:48 PM · #161

Originally posted by alfresco:

Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by scotthadl:
I wonder how many of the images getting hammered are great diagonal compositions but don't include an actual diagonal line. sitting at 4.5

The challenge description clearly says it doesn't need to include a diagonal line, but I too got a comment saying "there is a diagonal sense, but no line"..... wtf??

This is why I feel the challenge topic and description should be written above each entry when voting, then there's no excuse for lame-ass comments like you received.

The curious thing is that there are many entries to the challenge that actually have a diagonal line (like a tilted horizon) but don't "feel" diagonal, they don't have a diagonal motion of sorts, if that makes sense. Diagonal, IMO, is a lot more than just tilting the horizon. But I guess they meet the challenge in a way. Oh well.

Added: I'm having a hard time voting/commenting on the images in this challenge. With many of them I simply feel like asking, why was the image tilted? What was the point of it? Is that too harsh a look at the entries?

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Olympus 14-42mm f.3.5-5.6 ED Zuiko Digital Zoom

12/03/2006 02:52:16 PM · #162

I don't think it's too harsh Ursula. Tilting an image can be a powerful tool, but only when used properly. An improper use would be to rotate an image simply to meet the challenge without any other thought of composition.

SaraR

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

12/03/2006 03:14:05 PM · #163

Ursula and alfresco - I am with you both entirely on this. On a great many photos I have commented that the tilt adds nothing to the composition. Used creatively it can bring an added sense of drama, or enhance perspective but in the vast majority of tilted photos in this challenge it seems people have just thought 'hey, there's a nice scene, if I tip the camera I could enter it into this weeks DPC challenge'. There are, as usual, some superb entries, but also a great many that seem to have been entered for the mere sake of enetering. This is, without doubt, the challenge on which I have voted lowest.
(Incidentally, I didn't enter myself).

faery

Olympus E-400

12/04/2006 01:16:27 AM · #164

I am also finding that a huge number of entries have extended the "perspectives" challenge: a lot of pictures have a vanishing point as a major aspect of composition...and really just don't meet the challenge.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/04/2006 01:20:46 AM · #165

Originally posted by faery:

Right, because the challenge description clearly said do not use any other compositional techniques besides showing something on a diagonal. Don't you dare.

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

12/04/2006 01:29:51 AM · #166

Originally posted by alfresco:

True but I find this to be the case with most of the challenges in that the challenge theme is thought of only as an "entry fee" to get through the door. I've found myself doing that more and more because when I have tried to shoot to the actual meaning of the challenge my scores suffer greatly.

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faery

Olympus E-400

Olympus 14-42mm f.3.5-5.6 ED Zuiko Digital Zoom

12/04/2006 04:29:58 AM · #167

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Right, because the challenge description clearly said do not use any other compositional techniques besides showing something on a diagonal. Don't you dare.

I don't mean that other compositional techniques should not be used...of course not: any good photo is going to combine a number of compositional techniques as well as a variety of post-processing tweeks to engage the viewer. But when the only apparent comopsitional technique is the use of a vanishing point with no diagonal then I question whether or not the photo meets the challenge requirements. I'm all for pushing the boundaries and challenging the norm, but basically one has to acknowledge basic challenge requirements and reward those who made the effort to factor in GOOD diagonals for this challenge.

pawdrix

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

12/04/2006 09:42:26 AM · #168

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I should be doing much better but after seeing what people thought were good Diagonal entries I knew we were ALL in for a long ride, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. It's painful looking at some of these entries, as there's no point to them (IMO) whatsoever. The over abundance of shots that do meet the Challenge but in such weak ways has had me shaking my head for days. A bit of a turn off, in fact.

wavelength

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

12/04/2006 10:01:23 AM · #169

Dude, Steve, that's kinda the thing about open challenges, lots of people still learning out there. Of course there's going to be a lot of shoehorning and flirting with DNMC. Not everyone can be an expert right away. Chill bud... chill.

whiteroom

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/04/2006 10:18:01 AM · #170

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i hope there's much better than this out there, my hard drive crashed this morning, seems i have lost every single photograph.
i never back anything up.

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pawdrix

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

12/04/2006 10:28:18 AM · #171

Originally posted by wavelength:

I'm not upset, just taking the opportunity to speak my mind and hopefully have this discussion as part of the learning process. I think that's fair.

There's a reason for taking a "tilt shot". Hopefully it's done to achieve some pertinent effect within frame, as with any technique and not simply to pull off that technique without any purpose clear or otherwise. There are also strong diagonals and weak diagonals. Diagonals are everywhere you look but which ones do we bring to this particular Challenge and why is worth a discussion.

I'm the most chill dude you'll ever meet...NOT! ;)

Seriously, I think this is a valid conversation and I hope I didn't come off as some intolerant expert but I'm also not sure if there's shoehorning here or a simple lack of understanding. Just a point maybe worth making that I believe has value. Personally learn far more from talking about this type of stuff than I do hearing the rosey positives.

Now on with the show...

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pcphotos

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 35-70mm f/2.8D

12/04/2006 10:53:55 AM · #172

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Message edited by author 2006-12-04 11:23:27.