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01/06/2007 04:25:14 PM · #476

Of course the EXIF is recorded with .jpg. Alot of people on here don't even have RAW as an option. I only shoot in .jpg because I don't have enough memory for RAW.

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

01/06/2007 04:26:17 PM · #477

.jpeg files extracted from a digital camera have exif data.

In photoshop, when you save for the web, the exif data is stripped.

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Canon PowerShot S95

01/06/2007 04:33:34 PM · #478

Svetlana, Be careful because if the dates are messed up like the one you got DQâ��ed for because of year on date stamp, you might get in trouble again.
Svetlana

sickdog

Sony DSC-F828

01/06/2007 05:03:29 PM · #479

well now im in it for "best of". it's not an architectural shot again and it will be interesting to see how it's recieved.

i've shot some for procastination but i keep putting off post proccessing.

i'm still thinking about the open challenges. i don't see song titles having anything for me because i've hated rick dees since i was young and that includes the music he plays.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

01/06/2007 05:11:30 PM · #480

Originally posted by sickdog:

i've shot some for procastination but i keep putting off post proccessing.

Yep, that's where I am. I've shot my idea. Now I'm going to help my daughter play her Harry Potter video game. I mean, I have until tomorrow night to edit and enter. :)

Svetlana, I can't shoot in RAW, only JPG. Trust me, every shot I take has the date and other EXIF data!

sickdog

Sony DSC-F828

01/06/2007 05:12:50 PM · #481

i can shoot in raw but i'm a tad ignorant of the benefits of it so i don't bother.

01/06/2007 05:20:36 PM · #482

Having the camera record raw images and tweaking the white balance and exposure in the conversion process is worth the effort. Also if I decide to print having a large digital "negative" is advantageous in not having to upsize as much.

mist

Canon EOS-60D

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

01/06/2007 05:26:56 PM · #483

A lot of my candidates for best of don't have unaltered originals. gnarg.

bmartuch

Nikon D7200

01/06/2007 05:49:29 PM · #484

I'm still doing good with my centered shot but I've fallen .1 since last night when I was at 6.54. Don't know what happend all of a sudden.

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sickdog

Sony DSC-F828

01/06/2007 05:53:09 PM · #485

if a shot relies a great deal on the texture of the subject is it better to shoot it in raw?

bmartuch

Nikon D7200

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

01/06/2007 06:01:33 PM · #486

Originally posted by sickdog:

i can shoot in raw but i'm a tad ignorant of the benefits of it so i don't bother.

Same thing with me. I have shot a few pictures in raw and played with it a little but I don't trust myself to use one in a challenge. Maybe when I learn more about it.

edit: Here is a thread I started a while back about raw. It might help a little.

RAW

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 18:04:53.

Tamron AF 55-200mm F4-5.6 LD Di-II for Canon

01/06/2007 06:23:35 PM · #487

If you have a camera that can record raw images I would highly encourage you to do so.

In your camera if you shoot with the .jpeg option, the camera actually converts a raw image to .jpeg and stores it on the card. The camera makes the decision on how to convert that image. Some of these decisions are white balance, exposure, saturation, contrast. You are basically stuck with those decisions when the image is stored on the card.

If you use raw files, you make the decisions after the image is stored on the card and you have the option of trying different conversions. The photographer is making the decision not the camera.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

01/06/2007 06:27:24 PM · #488

Originally posted by quiet_observation:

If you use raw files, you make the decisions after the image is stored on the card and you have the option of trying different conversions. The photographer is making the decision not the camera.

so I will wait until I'm smarter than the camera, then I will use RAW. :)

Wildcard

Canon EOS-20D

01/06/2007 06:35:23 PM · #489

I can shoot RAW but I can't find a program that supports the conversion for my baby camera, the software that came with converts straight to Tiff with no adjustments so there's no real advantage to it at the moment. One day I'll get a "grown up" camera.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

01/06/2007 06:42:31 PM · #490

I wish digital cameras were smart-I haven't found one yet-all mine lie about things like focus and exposure.

Of course, this is from someone that thinks film photography is better than digital photography.

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 19:03:32.

raish

Olympus C-2500L

01/06/2007 06:59:15 PM · #491

Film photography is better than digital photography insofar as resolution on film is molecular. Maintenance of files is tangible, too, but that may or may not be an advantage.

Jpegs out of my coolpix are better than RAW files out of the D100, if I don't make any adjustments to the RAW file and before I do whatever processing... As far as I know, it's generally true that point and shoot cameras produce jpegs that are more saturated and have a certain amount of adjustment in what is called levels in Photoshop, as well as a bit of sharpening. In any case, with the two sliders at the bottom being equal, a USM sharpening of 50 on coolpix files is about the same as 100-150 on the D100.

High-spending amateur photographic enthusiasts are empowered by sophisticated cameras that oblige them to do lots of extra work to get half-decent pictures. Suckers.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

01/06/2007 09:14:27 PM · #492

Originally posted by Wildcard:

This is also another reason for me. There's no advantage because you can't do anything with the image until you convert it to .jpg.

01/06/2007 10:13:58 PM · #493

Originally posted by noraneko:

BTW, is anyone else in Procrastination? I've got a seriously OOB entry for that one. People will love it or hate it. Luckily Team Suck tends to go for the OOB stuff, so I can probably at least count on a few decent votes from the Team. So far, only 50 entries - Team Suck could rule this challenge!

I got this entry that I'm debating.....or procrastinating on....'til the last minute 'cause it's only gonna work if the title's right.

Does anyone else have that as their Procrastination entry issue?

Oh, and my B&W entry ain't even within spittin' distance of the box!

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 22:15:24.

xianart

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

01/06/2007 10:17:08 PM · #494

i ahve two ideas for procrasitnation. one i came up with a few days ago, it's funny and silly. the other i came up with today in my fevered, highly emotional state. it's not atall funny, and highly emotional. both do depict things i have truly procrastinated.

so, which is it to be. i, of course, haven't shot them yet. even if i wasn't sick, i'd still leave it 'til the last minute...

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

01/06/2007 10:18:09 PM · #495

Originally posted by noraneko:

Originally posted by levyj413:

I'm gonna be. I swear. LOL.

My usual pattern is to think all week and shoot the day it's due. I LIVE the challenge theme. I should just do a self-portrait. ;)

Maybe the real challenge is that everyone who submits prior to 11:55 on rollover will get DQ'd just on principle :-)

OHMYGAWD!!!!!

I laughed so hard when I read that I think I hurt myself!

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

01/06/2007 10:18:42 PM · #496

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I got this entry that I'm debating.....or procrastinating on....'til the last minute 'cause it's only gonna work if the title's right.

Careful. Many people will vote down something that relies on the title too heavily. I speak from painful personal experience.

01/06/2007 10:29:13 PM · #497

Originally posted by levyj413:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I got this entry that I'm debating.....or procrastinating on....'til the last minute 'cause it's only gonna work if the title's right.

Careful. Many people will vote down something that relies on the title too heavily. I speak from painful personal experience.

Truth be told I really don't care too awful much if the voters don't like it all that much as an entry or a pic 'cause I'm so happy with it I printed it out, went down to the gallery that shows some of my work, and matted it, framed it, and it's on the wall right above this monitor!

Message edited by author 2007-01-06 22:57:51.

01/06/2007 10:56:47 PM · #498

Originally posted by kdsprog:

Originally posted by Wildcard:
I can shoot RAW but I can't find a program that supports the conversion for my baby camera, the software that came with converts straight to Tiff with no adjustments so there's no real advantage to it at the moment. One day I'll get a "grown up" camera.

This is also another reason for me. There's no advantage because you can't do anything with the image until you convert it to .jpg.

Okay.....I might be all wet, I'm no computer jock, but I have stumbled onto enough stuff in my computer to play with the RAW that my D70s shoots.

I have Microsoft Office 2003, which also has MS Picture Manager, and it has a camera/scanner wizard that'll allow me to open the files in a viewable manner enough that I can bridge them over to CS2.

The range of stuff I can then do to the pic before I convert it to .jpg seems pretty daggone cool.

I haven't even found vignetting anywhere else except as an adjustment in RAW. I even figured out how to store the RAW files intact so that I can get them out of my camera and use the space.

At least I think they're stored in RAW......I do know that I have to go through the same stuff to work the files as when they're still in the camera and save the changes to a different file.

I know once I screw around with a file at all and go to save oit, then it'll only go if it converts to .jpg......so I am assuming that the file is still RAW 'til I mess with it.

I still have the original RAW file left in the folder and it won't go away even if I play and save.....I have to delete them.

I wish I was more adept at this stuff so that I knew how to explain it......the bottom line is that the RAW pics that I've started playing with have a whole myriad of things that I can do to them before I even get to what I can do to the .jpg. And the resolution is MUCH better!

I know I'm supposed to use the disc that came with my D70s, but I had problems with it and just used MS Picture manager for the first five or six months that I had my camera.

Heck, I was so stupid about my camera I didn't even learn 'til the end of October how to set it to fine picture quality....and I got the camera in July. Between one seminar from the store where I bought my camera, and the tireless and patient tutelage of my DPC mentor, I is larnin' this stuff!

So.....I have a decent eye, and now I'm getting a little experience and my scores are consistent, predictable, and getting progressively better.

Anyway.....back on topic.....if *I* can get pics taken and up on site shooting RAW, certainly you guys can!

noraneko

Canon EOS R5