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01/19/2007 06:17:51 PM · #251 |
Originally posted by yanko:
You should so get one of these. I got one for christmas and it's great. |
That does sound nice, but kinda spendy for me at the moment. ;-) |
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01/19/2007 06:24:08 PM · #252 |
Originally posted by tooohip:
Originally posted by yanko:
You should so get one of these. I got one for christmas and it's great. |
That does sound nice, but kinda spendy for me at the moment. ;-) |
I bought the 40Gig, non lcd version of the Wolverine, and it worked like a champ. It was aroudn $120 at the time. Saved me so much money on my trip to Europe. Highly recommended! |
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01/19/2007 06:33:21 PM · #253 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by samhall:
These rules sound good to me. People should learn to use their cameras w/o having to lean on the crutch of PS. Its amazing how much people whine about such a straightforward rule set. |
There are many crutches people will lean on to hide deficiencies. It goes without saying you should learn how to use your camera as well as how to post process as both are integral to photography, which is why having all these different rule sets should be welcomed by all. |
exactly, yanko |
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01/19/2007 06:37:56 PM · #254 |
Originally posted by Shakalaka:
Anyone besides me hate the no crop at all rule?
1) I hate the 4x6 aspect ratio.
2) Most viewfinders don't cover the entire frame.
I'd like to see that rule be changed to include only cropping to standard aspect ratios and at least two sides of the entire frame must be touched by the selection. Or something like that.
To clear what I'm trying to say up:
If I crop a 4x6 portrait to an 8x10 ratio, I can only crop from the top and bottom. |
I get what you're saying but why "standard" aspect ratios? That's a matter for printing not online viewing.
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01/19/2007 06:40:49 PM · #255 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Don't know if it's been asked here yet or not.
Can we use Bicubic Sharpening when sizing the file down? It's not a filter per se, but an option in the sizing dialog (at least in CS2)
Thanks! |
I tried both bicubic and bicubic sharper on the sample I posted and even when I enlarged 500% I couldn't see any difference? |
Yeah? I notice a big difference when scaling down using Bicubic Sharper. Anyone know if this is allowed? My guess is yes, since I don't know how you would validate.
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01/19/2007 06:44:53 PM · #256 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I get what you're saying but why "standard" aspect ratios? That's a matter for printing not online viewing. |
Just to stop those weird ratios from popping up :-)
Maybe a list:
2:3, 5:4, 4;3, square.
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01/19/2007 07:51:18 PM · #257 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
I tried both bicubic and bicubic sharper on the sample I posted and even when I enlarged 500% I couldn't see any difference? |
What does your gaining a lot of weight have to do with it? ;) |
Smartass |
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01/19/2007 07:56:50 PM · #258 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
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I tried both bicubic and bicubic sharper on the sample I posted and even when I enlarged 500% I couldn't see any difference? |
Yeah? I notice a big difference when scaling down using Bicubic Sharper. Anyone know if this is allowed? My guess is yes, since I don't know how you would validate. |
I wonder why? (I know knothink, nothink!) Because of the detail/lack of it in my shot? Or the fact that I had already sharpened twice before saving? I wannnnna learnnnn! |
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01/19/2007 07:57:03 PM · #259 |
Originally posted by Shakalaka:
Originally posted by yanko:
I get what you're saying but why "standard" aspect ratios? That's a matter for printing not online viewing. |
Just to stop those weird ratios from popping up :-)
Maybe a list:
2:3, 5:4, 4;3, square. |
Why are the "weird" ratios any less valid than "standard" ratios? In other words, what difference does it make? |
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01/19/2007 08:24:23 PM · #260 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
I wonder why? (I know knothink, nothink!) Because of the detail/lack of it in my shot? Or the fact that I had already sharpened twice before saving? I wannnnna learnnnn! |
I don't think it lacks detail at all..perhaps it was because the image was already pretty sharp before you resized...
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01/20/2007 01:25:03 AM · #261 |
(It's unclear to me whether resizing using "bicubic sharper" is allowed, so please clarify).
Can I resample sharpen and then sharpen?
It does make a difference
sorry to fuss! |
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01/20/2007 01:37:38 AM · #262 |
Originally posted by Keith Maniac:
Why are the "weird" ratios any less valid than "standard" ratios? In other words, what difference does it make? |
I dunno... just seemed more in spirit of the rules to have standard ratios... I may be wrong. |
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01/20/2007 02:22:52 AM · #263 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by Keith Maniac:
Why are the "weird" ratios any less valid than "standard" ratios? In other words, what difference does it make? |
I dunno... just seemed more in spirit of the rules to have standard ratios... I may be wrong. |
Huh? How is it more in the spirit of the rules to require some, but not all, participants in the "no editing" contest to have sufficient knowledge of Photoshop to actually crop to a specific ratio? It's one of the least intuitive tasks in the program :-)
R.
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01/20/2007 02:32:02 AM · #264 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Huh? How is it more in the spirit of the rules to require some, but not all, participants in the "no editing" contest to have sufficient knowledge of Photoshop to actually crop to a specific ratio? It's one of the least intuitive tasks in the program :-)
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Was more of just a rant of how I hate that SLR viewfinders don't usually cover the full frame. Had quite a few outtakes that would have been great if I had just zoomed IN just a teeny-tiny bit :-)
Oh and I HATE 3:2
Message edited by author 2007-01-20 02:33:16. |
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01/20/2007 02:34:33 AM · #265 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Oh and I HATE 3:2 |
I have learned to love it. But then, I'm a WA landscape sort of guy, so that figures :-) It did feel damned strange to me at first though.
R.
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01/20/2007 04:14:11 AM · #266 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Anyone besides me hate the no crop at all rule?
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I do.
(Can't believe i just said i do)
Anyway cropping should be allowed, not allowing it is amount to saying that straight from camera, and if straight from camera is intended , then why we call it minimal editing, just call it straight from camera and no discussion further. thats all. |
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01/20/2007 04:19:24 AM · #267 |
I guess to be real ... resize, sharpen, and desaturate are not exactly STRAIGHT from the camera ... but I get your point.
P.S. One doesn't HAVE to enter if they don't want to take a shot at WYSIWYG. (or WYGIWYS ... heh) I mean, one doesn't HAVE to love the rules, subject or description of EVERY SINGLE challenge.
Message edited by author 2007-01-20 04:21:49. |
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01/20/2007 04:20:32 AM · #268 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by raish:
6. Wonder why everything's still blurred after all that sharpening. |
6a drink
7 Start a rant thread about stupid voters
7a drink
7b reply to stupid voters in thread
7c Read note from SC
7d drink more
7e Pass out before you get suspended
:-) |
So much easier when you plan the workflow!
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01/20/2007 05:09:46 AM · #269 |
| A quick question that has probably been answered before, but can we enter both the Minimalism ad Fill the Frame challenges, or is it a 'one or the other'? Just off out for the weekend, so no time to search the forums.... |
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01/20/2007 06:13:13 AM · #270 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
A quick question that has probably been answered before, but can we enter both the Minimalism ad Fill the Frame challenges, or is it a 'one or the other'? Just off out for the weekend, so no time to search the forums.... |
I've got one in Fill the Frame and it looks like I can enter Minimalism. So I'd say we can enter both.
Message edited by author 2007-01-20 06:13:25. |
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01/20/2007 06:13:45 AM · #271 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Anyone besides me hate the no crop at all rule?
1) I hate the 4x6 aspect ratio.
2) Most viewfinders don't cover the entire frame.
I'd like to see that rule be changed to include only cropping to standard aspect ratios and at least two sides of the entire frame must be touched by the selection. Or something like that.
To clear what I'm trying to say up:
If I crop a 4x6 portrait to an 8x10 ratio, I can only crop from the top and bottom. |
Totally agree. No cropping sucks a little... with my little underdog camera it will mean "barrel effect". :-(
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01/20/2007 06:19:46 AM · #272 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Anyone besides me hate the no crop at all rule?
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I enjoyed it personally. I found myself trying real hard to focus on the finished pic before hitting the button (which I guess is one of the purposes) and ended up with at least 12 pics that I edited up either for the challenge or myself that I am really pleased with without cropping any of them afterwards.
Now I am off to work on my Fill in the Frame shot. I'm gonna cut and crop that one 6 different times and paste it all back together in some funky way.
Message edited by author 2007-01-20 06:20:02.
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01/20/2007 07:43:33 AM · #273 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Anyway cropping should be allowed, not allowing it is amount to saying that straight from camera, and if straight from camera is intended , then why we call it minimal editing, just call it straight from camera and no discussion further. thats all. |
Some editing is allowed. However would you ever call that "straight from the camera"? Editing is LIMITED, and CROPPING is not allowed. Cropping does not EQUAL editing. It is a TYPE of editing that is not allowed.
Not the same. Sorry. |
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01/20/2007 08:01:42 AM · #274 |
I'd love to see someone winning a "Expert Rules" challenge, by using only these "minimal rules", that would be so cool. :-) Who's willing to try?
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01/20/2007 08:13:51 AM · #275 |
| That is a heck of an idea. Maybe you could win both with the same setup only being a LOT closer to the subject on the fill your frame. LOL |
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