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Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6G ED

02/04/2007 04:13:07 PM · #76

While I do see the point in giving the site time to comply. It seems to be their policy to steal images. I genuinely hope to see them shut down completely.

Thai

Sony DSC-R1

02/04/2007 04:20:47 PM · #77

Irene I also hope that they close down any sites that steal from other people, that has nothing to do with photography,as for your comment

Dpc wouldn't be a "community" if we didn't try and help each other when times get tough.
I thank Cindi and Leroy from the bottom of my heart for going over there and "rattling chains".

I think you are right and if anyone is a decent dpc member they should know that one day this could happen to them and that they should all be around to give support, hope all goes well for you.

super-dave

Nikon D200

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

02/04/2007 07:15:23 PM · #78

one point of attack is that you can contact their domain and hosting provider ...

although individual sites may have no scruples about stealing images, the people who host them don't want bad publicity and be an accomplice to copyright theft.

hosting companies will shut down sites if that site doesn't comply with the host's rules and with the laws of the country (such as copyright).

find out their host and send some emails! :)

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/04/2007 08:19:56 PM · #79

Irene,

Do you sell on any micro-stock sites? If so, is it possible break.com acquired a valid license to use the photograph from one of those sites?

Just a thought...

~Terry

02/05/2007 12:31:34 AM · #80

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Irene,

Do you sell on any micro-stock sites? If so, is it possible break.com acquired a valid license to use the photograph from one of those sites?

Just a thought...

~Terry

Hi Terry,

No, I don't sell on any micro stock sites. They just downloaded the image from my pbase site and presented it as theirs.

Irene

Canon EF-M 22mm f/2.0 STM Lens

02/05/2007 12:37:18 AM · #81

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Irene,

Do you sell on any micro-stock sites? If so, is it possible break.com acquired a valid license to use the photograph from one of those sites?

Just a thought...

~Terry

Don't even give sites like break.com and weirdspot.com a thought of doing such a credible action.... they never do!

Spork99

Canon EOS M6 Mk II

02/05/2007 12:44:08 AM · #82

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Irene,

Do you sell on any micro-stock sites? If so, is it possible break.com acquired a valid license to use the photograph from one of those sites?

Just a thought...

~Terry

Even if they did, they aren't allowed to just stamp their logo on it as if it was created by them.

02/05/2007 01:02:29 AM · #83

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Even if they did, they aren't allowed to just stamp their logo on it as if it was created by them.

Then again DPReview.com stamps their logo across the fullsize images of digital cameras. The images of course being from places like nikon's press pack...... SLightly different but same logic.

Theres about a hundred sites that do this sort of crap ebaum's world does it to videos and weirdspot does it to images.

02/05/2007 01:10:20 AM · #84

Originally posted by rainmotorsports:

Then again DPReview.com stamps their logo across the fullsize images of digital cameras. The images of course being from places like nikon's press pack...... SLightly different but same logic.

Nah... press packs are meant to be republished... that's what they are put out for.

And stock photos can have logos added... how else would I have a condom ad? ;-)

But, none of this matters, because she didn't sell the image. they stole it.

02/05/2007 01:18:00 AM · #85

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by rainmotorsports:

Then again DPReview.com stamps their logo across the fullsize images of digital cameras. The images of course being from places like nikon's press pack...... SLightly different but same logic.

Nah... press packs are meant to be republished... that's what they are put out for.

And stock photos can have logos added... how else would I have a condom ad? ;-)

But, none of this matters, because she didn't sell the image. they stole it.

DPReview isnt just redistributing the press pack photos... they put a logo band across the middle of the image as theyre trying to hoard th eimage for themselves. They act like its theirs to protect and like thier keeping exclusive access. I didnt say crap about redistributing.

02/05/2007 01:24:58 AM · #86

Originally posted by rainmotorsports:

I'll tell you why they do it and assure you it's perfectly legal.
They do it to keep sites from hotlinking the pics and hogging up their bandwidth. At least if someone is hotlinking they do get some advertisement from it.

Now having done Journalism and PR in former careers, I assure you that companies like Nikon, Canon, etc are fully aware of DPReview's use of the photos. It's really no different from having the photo in a catalog (ie B&H, which I think also adds a logo).

02/05/2007 01:29:31 AM · #87

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by rainmotorsports:

DPReview isnt just redistributing the press pack photos... they put a logo band across the middle of the image as theyre trying to hoard th eimage for themselves. They act like its theirs to protect and like thier keeping exclusive access. I didnt say crap about redistributing.

I'll tell you why they do it and assure you it's perfectly legal.
They do it to keep sites from hotlinking the pics and hogging up their bandwidth. At least if someone is hotlinking they do get some advertisement from it.

Now having done Journalism and PR in former careers, I assure you that companies like Nikon, Canon, etc are fully aware of DPReview's use of the photos. It's really no different from having the photo in a catalog (ie B&H, which I think also adds a logo).

Okay love ya dude but reread anything ive said... your tripping off the other argument.. i nevr said anythign about it being illegal. And btw pletny of sites use things like .htaccess or PHP scripts so when somone hotlinks their image nothing shows up but a big fat logo (theirs) that under it says "no hotlinking".

You read way too into what i was saying i was looking on the otherside. I wasnt the lagality or the right. I wasnt really trying for if it was right although i sorta touched on it a bit.

Message edited by author 2007-02-05 01:30:39.

02/05/2007 01:36:32 AM · #88

Originally posted by rainmotorsports:

You read way too into what i was saying i was looking on the otherside. I wasnt the lagality or the right. I wasnt really trying for if it was right although i sorta touched on it a bit.

Sorry, I've been in a bit of a foul mood most of the day. :-) Anyway... [/hijack]

mobster

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/05/2007 01:47:51 AM · #89

It is also posted on //www.weirdspot.com/index.php/weblog/coffee_with_milk/ with weirdspots logo on it.

Edit: it appears there is a number of photos from this site posted on there.

Message edited by author 2007-02-05 01:54:38.

02/05/2007 01:52:01 AM · #90

Originally posted by mobster:

It is also posted on //www.weirdspot.com/index.php/weblog/coffee_with_milk/ with weirdspots logo on it.

OMG!... when i mentione dweirdspot like 3 times i guess i should have gone and looked.

FIGURES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

02/05/2007 01:54:14 AM · #91

Someone should probably PM IrenM and let her know she has another battle to fight. Damn, success is terrible some times.

mobster

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/05/2007 01:57:43 AM · #92

PM sent.

Message edited by author 2007-02-05 11:15:36.

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

02/05/2007 01:59:35 AM · #93

It seems the same person who used that shot of Irene's also put up the winning EXIT shot and stated it was "This is an amazing shot of Comet McNaught taken by a photographer in South Australia."

02/05/2007 02:23:46 AM · #94

BTW

DPC has this at the bottom of every page

"All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission. "

02/05/2007 02:38:32 AM · #95

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Someone should probably PM IrenM and let her know she has another battle to fight. Damn, success is terrible some times.

Hi Leroy,

Mobster just pm'd me on Wierdspot. I'm at work till late this afternoon but I'll get on to it as soon as I get home (that's after I buy the pitchfork).

Irene

02/05/2007 02:56:59 AM · #96

I'll see what I can do about getting you some contact info Irene.

02/05/2007 03:02:51 AM · #97

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They are registered through //www.tucows.com

Other contact info is hidden.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

02/05/2007 04:27:47 AM · #98

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Thanks a million, Leroy.

casuist

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

02/05/2007 07:35:21 AM · #99

Strangely enough it was the milk with coffee shot that first brought me to DPC. Though it was linked through //del.icio.us to the original image on DPC. After my first dismal offering I'm not sure I'll be thanking IreneM for bringing me here just yet :)

I understand why the use of copyright logos is not allowed as you would be able to identify the photographer. Perhaps the supreme council could consider the use of a standard DPC logo to mark copyright for the photographer, inserted before entry. It will not stop all (I have seen the photoshop skills here), but certainly discourage many...

Its probably been discussed before but this seems a appropriate place for it.