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 05/26/2007 02:27:22 AM · #26
Originally posted by kenskid:
IMO I think they "threw in" the line about eating the meat to avoid the obvious "they just killed it to kill it" comments....somehow when you eat it, it doesn't seem as bad when you kill it.


Well one implies killing for fun and the other a basic survival need. I'm guessing some people would find one more justified than the other.
 05/26/2007 02:42:08 AM · #27
Now-a-days people mostly kill for sport. However they do use the animal to eat or something after they have killed it. The thing is, the people who don't hunt animals don't need to kill to survive. They go to the nearest supermarket and buy things already done. Culture shock like on that show with the same name. They went out to the pasture or whatever and shot the cows neck with an arrow. Its blood went into the grass and they cut it up and ate it.

Is hunting more cruel, or caging an animal in a small enclosure so that it can't move its whole life and then killing it?

I wish the Buffalo still roamed North America from Yellowstone down to the Mississippi. They could feed all of us if we kept them alive and let them live with us instead of killing all of them for their skin. Now what is left is trapped in Yellowstone Park. And we could make a lot of tools from there bones. Now we have fat ass cows that are fed growth hormones and *^&* like that. Then we eat that )*&$!
 05/26/2007 02:49:49 AM · #28
Maybe they should set the kid onto these;

not quite as big as the pig, though
 05/26/2007 03:17:55 AM · #29
This makes me sick. Bah.
 05/26/2007 03:25:44 AM · #30
did someone say Luau?


Message edited by author 2007-05-26 03:31:36.
 05/26/2007 04:55:00 AM · #31
Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

50 Cal picture, hummmm, sure looks like a revolver he's holding, unless it's black poweder there are not too many 50 cal revolvers available. Lots of .44 magnum but .50 cal is in most cases black powder or Thompson Center Arms single shot break action. And yup, the meat will not be able to be eaten, it will be far too wild and tough.


He used a custom version of this firearm. It is the Smith and Wesson .50 cal revolver.



As for the meat it will be good and edible. Especially in the form of bacon, BIG RIBS and sausage. It will be more gamy that farm raised but good none the less. Bore hunting is very big in Texas because of the over population of wild hogs. I know the bore was shot in Alabama but most of the info on ferrell hogs is on the problem in Texas.

Message edited by author 2007-05-26 07:46:56.
 05/26/2007 04:57:11 AM · #32
Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:
Originally posted by bradshaw:
seems sad that a creature so rare and so old would be hunted by any one, let alone some kid whos balls haven't even dropped. I don't understand hunting and I never well.


What can you say, he was 11. I didn't know any better at 11 either.


The creature is not rare:

"Did you know that Texas has more wild hogs than any other state! And do you know why! Well, we're here to tell you! The first wild hogs in Texas probably resulted from LaSalle's failed attempt to colonize the Texas coast in 1685.

For the next 200 years, hogs brought to Texas by early settlers eventually escaped, and further added to the wild population. In the 1930's and 1940's Russian Boar were introduced into the wild in Texas, so today, most wild hog populations have Russian Boar influence. Today, it is estimated that Texas has well over three million hogs running wild across the state!"

The kid did know better as he was purposely hunting the animal with his dad.
 05/26/2007 05:09:37 AM · #33
When I am out hunting vermin on my uncle's farm the bigger animals go for dog food. It's the small - and therefore young - bucks that make the best human food. And there's a certain satisfaction in eating something that you killed. Very similar to eating vegetables you grew yourself - done that too.
 05/26/2007 05:20:14 AM · #34
Originally posted by bradshaw:
seems sad that a creature so rare and so old would be hunted by any one, let alone some kid whos balls haven't even dropped. I don't understand hunting and I never well.


Good thing we didn't depend on you to further our species back in the days of the caveman. We never would have made it. Murder or not, meat is good.
 05/26/2007 05:28:59 AM · #35
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

The creature is not rare: Today, it is estimated that Texas has well over three million hogs running wild across the state!"


Man, I gotta come to Texas!


05/26/2007 07:06:42 AM · #36
Originally posted by kenskid:
Seems that this HUGE hog is the talk of the internet. ...

Oink Oink Oink

And if you believe that is real I got some bridge property in Lake Havasu City, Arizona I'll sell ya. ;) ;)
 05/26/2007 08:23:51 AM · #37
Originally posted by stdavidson:
I got some bridge property in Lake Havasu City, Arizona I'll sell ya. ;) ;)


Is that where you got lost? ;-)
 05/26/2007 09:22:29 AM · #38
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

The creature is not rare:

"Did you know that Texas has more wild hogs than any other state! And do you know why! Well, we're here to tell you! The first wild hogs in Texas probably resulted from LaSalle's failed attempt to colonize the Texas coast in 1685.



Is that where all of the California Hogs went? I've seen a lot of them on the freeways as they make their annual migration across the US. I don't know how any of those guys that ride Hogs can hear, I don't don't think any of them have a muffler. But it is neat to watch about 500,000 Hogs come running up the freeway... unless you are behind them of course. ;)

Mike
 05/26/2007 09:27:22 AM · #39
There is no way an 11 year old could fire the S&W 500, custom or not. I know people that own that gun, theyare in the military and can't fire more than 2 or 3 rounds down range due to the power. These men are trained to shoot and kill for a living. In fact I know of only one man who has ever fired that weapon and emptied it. It dammn near tore his arm apart. This man is also in the military and a firearms instructor. Sorry but something about that story just ain't right. If you've never seen or held a S&W 500, just go to a gun shop and ask about one. Talk to the guys at the shop, they will tell you the same thing. The gun is more of a trophy piece than a hunting pistol.
 05/26/2007 10:05:27 AM · #40
I knew nothing of that gun but I was wondering the same thing as you. Could that skinny 11yr old have fired 6 times and hit 6 times with that big ass gun????

Originally posted by cryan:
There is no way an 11 year old could fire the S&W 500, custom or not. I know people that own that gun, theyare in the military and can't fire more than 2 or 3 rounds down range due to the power. These men are trained to shoot and kill for a living. In fact I know of only one man who has ever fired that weapon and emptied it. It dammn near tore his arm apart. This man is also in the military and a firearms instructor. Sorry but something about that story just ain't right. If you've never seen or held a S&W 500, just go to a gun shop and ask about one. Talk to the guys at the shop, they will tell you the same thing. The gun is more of a trophy piece than a hunting pistol.

05/26/2007 10:35:48 AM · #41
Last year right in the middle of San Antonio TX, in a field next to an elementry (grade) school I found a freshly killed hog. I was out geocashing and found it not 100 yards from the school yard. It was over 6 feet long from heat to tail and it's tusks were over four inches long. Too bad whoever shot it didn't take it to take it home to eat but it really needed to be shot of trapped and moved away from the city and school. These animals are not friendly. They will kill a human and eat them. I don't think most people know, but regular farm pigs will kill a human and eat them if they have a chance. Many small children have been killed by domesticated farm hogs.

Message edited by author 2007-05-26 10:36:50.
 05/26/2007 10:42:22 AM · #42

The Spanish explorers brought hogs to the Americas when they came, and they have since become a huge problem for the farmers and ranchers here in Florida. One of the people that I do some work for sometimes lose as much as 5 acres of sugar cane per night to them. It is not unusual for them to trap 50 per night, and they seem to still be proliferating. They are an exotic animal here, and wreak havoc with the native species animals and plants, esp ground nesting birds like quail, and the plants that deer eat. I have seen them in the wild near here over 6 ft long and about 3 1/2 ft tall at the shoulder.
The story is not in Snopes.com yet as it is so new.
A 50 Cal bullet (the actual slug) is about the size of a AA battery, so the recoil would be huge with a hand gun.
Hogzilla link



Message edited by author 2007-05-26 11:46:58.
 05/26/2007 11:17:31 AM · #43
monster pig site
 05/26/2007 11:32:05 AM · #44
I don't know. It looks to me to be huge but, I also think it's an optical illusion. The kid seems as if he's about 10 or 15 feet behind the hog making it appear to be larger than it actually is. Of course I have no way of telling this but... Either way, he must have been juiced up with adrenalin after that hunt. Congrats to him!!
 05/26/2007 11:49:02 AM · #45
Originally posted by usnthem:
I don't know. It looks to me to be huge but, I also think it's an optical illusion. The kid seems as if he's about 10 or 15 feet behind the hog making it appear to be larger than it actually is. Of course I have no way of telling this but... Either way, he must have been juiced up with adrenalin after that hunt. Congrats to him!!


I noticed that the light does not seem quite right on the kid as well. The image of the boy almost looks pasted over the hog pic.
05/26/2007 01:34:33 PM · #46
Originally posted by cryan:
There is no way an 11 year old could fire the S&W 500, custom or not. I know people that own that gun, theyare in the military and can't fire more than 2 or 3 rounds down range due to the power. These men are trained to shoot and kill for a living. In fact I know of only one man who has ever fired that weapon and emptied it. It dammn near tore his arm apart. This man is also in the military and a firearms instructor. Sorry but something about that story just ain't right. If you've never seen or held a S&W 500, just go to a gun shop and ask about one. Talk to the guys at the shop, they will tell you the same thing. The gun is more of a trophy piece than a hunting pistol.


The .50 S&W was specifically designed for hunting big game with a handgun. I have been shooting since I was 8. I used to compete in several shooting disciplines as I was growing up. I first shot the .454 casull which is just about as big as the .50 when I was 16. I have seen younger shoot that firearm at shooting fairs. That said I am also pretty sure the Father helped out the son.

These hunting revolvers are equipped with compensator's that reduce felt recoil and muzzle flip. Making the firearm much more controllable. Shooting sports are huge in Arizona and I have seen some amazing young shooters handle big firearms with no issue.

ETA: The 8 shots fired at the animal were also over 3 hours not one right after the other.

Message edited by author 2007-05-26 16:57:51.
 05/26/2007 05:57:52 PM · #47
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

ETA: The 8 shots fired at the animal were also over 3 hours not one right after the other.


Sounds like he needs more practice.
 05/26/2007 06:16:32 PM · #48
Here's a revealing quote: take it for what it's worth ΓΆ€”

"It feels really good," Jamison said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that big."

R.
 05/26/2007 06:31:09 PM · #49
WTF
 05/26/2007 08:53:35 PM · #50
I don't understand why it is so hard for people to believe this. Is it because we are photographers that know of the ability to edit images into something less than real or are people really that skeptical of things they can't see with their own two eyes these days?

Why should it be so hard to believe that an animal that large could exist or that a not so "skinny" kid could kill it?

Amazing how quick people will doubt someone else even when they have facts staring them right in the face.
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