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02/08/2008 10:36:44 AM · #176
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by gattamarta:

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Some time ago I read an article going deeper in the topic, among the other stating that if you have a gun in your house you have about double the chances of dying for a gun shot than one who does not own a gun, but I can't find any reference, sorry.


I read a similar article stating that if you had a bed in your house you were ten times more likely to die in the bed, than if you kept beds out of your house. Again, as you, I'm not able to find any reference.

LOL


you know also what? 100% of breathing people die: stop breathing now if you want to live!

anyway, I finally found some reference in the New England Journal of Medicine, but I'd suggest to end the off-topic here, if anyone is particularly interested in continuing this discussion may start a new thread...

@Enzo:
I'm really sorry for the bad experience you had, I hope you'll forget it soon with the help of a brand new camera!
02/08/2008 11:17:19 AM · #177
Aside from bringing me along, Scalvert's idea is the best (and a lot less expensive). Bring some film and give it to him. More importantly, toss the film on the ground. Do Not hand it to him. Run (or kick him in the head hard) when he goes for the film container (or wallet or purse). I was sorry to read your story Enzo. I hate bullies. Glad you're OK. I think you acted pretty well considering the circumstance.
02/08/2008 11:22:07 AM · #178
A couple of words on gear -

in a pinch, look for a cheap D70 if you want something to hold you over for a bit until D3 or D300 prices come down. At least you can still use the lenses.

Glad you didn't hit him with the tripod. If you had, you probably would have been too slow to be effective and your camera would have been wrecked with the lens... I also doubt that it would have hurt enough to be effective. I've always felt that if the person is there for a reason other than being crazy (ie genuinely criminal), they won't give up very easily.

Think too about this. Digital cameras have become mainstream enough that most people wouldn't be too easily fooled by a roll of film. Especially if they can see a huge LCD on the back of the camera. However, I might consider offering to the guy to have a look at the pics. Or straight out offering the card and walking away.

I have had some experience with 'criminal types' and they aren't usually as dumb as one might be led to think... 'Fumbling a bit' with the camera and handing them some swapped out bit of film or card doesn't really work in practice if faced with a serious criminal.

If it's in the hours between 9:00 to 2:00 or 3:00, you are likely to find drunkards, junkies, and other petty types. Anything later than that and you stand a pretty real chance of meeting some higher end criminals. These won't likely be 'high', drunk or stupid.

I would just level with them. The fact that he didn't walk over and just take you out immediately probably tells you that this was not his intent. He probably had done something a bit 'quasi-legal' and wanted to grab evidence. If you were carefully vague with your speech, you could likely get through something like this by being quite direct and showing the guy exactly what you were doing, removing yourself from his perception of threat.

Hindsight is 20/20 and I remember acting much the same when I accidentally made a wrong turn fairly late at night many years ago due to the stress of the incident, but there are probably a few things that might have been done differently to diffuse the situation. Running isn't always your best option.

ETA: there have been quite a number of threads regarding "hydrophilic" cameras with good suggestions as to how to do something on your own to try to improve the situation. Probably the best is to do a distilled water bath and extended dry. Absolute must - make sure you find the second battery in the cam (time/date battery). There still may be hope!

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