Time to get rid of borders? - DPChallenge Forums

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

12/15/2008 11:14:03 AM · #1

This is in no way meant as a comment on any current challenge entry, but it seems photo borders are getting bigger and more elaborate and therefore more intrusive. Either that or I'm just noticing them more. Since a new rule about maximum border size would be hard -- not to mention joyless -- to enforce, how about getting rid of borders altogether?

Just a suggestion!

Never mind! :-D

Message edited by author 2008-12-15 12:15:11.

scarbrd

Leica M10

12/15/2008 11:16:45 AM · #2

I prefer to keep the borders.

smurfguy

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/15/2008 11:17:17 AM · #3

I hadn't noticed them getting more intrusive. I've noticed that typically borders hurt the scores of my entries, so I've used them less and less over time. But every once in a while, a border perfectly compliments a shot and helps set a mood, which is why I think they're valuable.

Just my thoughts. =)

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

12/15/2008 11:20:09 AM · #4

Originally posted by smurfguy:

.. once in a while, a border perfectly compliments a shot and helps set a mood, which is why I think they're valuable. ...

Yep. Plus, the neutral grey bg used on DPChallenge isn't always flattering to some images and a border helps offset that.

one2one

Olympus E-5

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

12/15/2008 11:25:19 AM · #5

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by smurfguy:
.. once in a while, a border perfectly compliments a shot and helps set a mood, which is why I think they're valuable. ...

Yep. Plus, the neutral grey bg used on DPChallenge isn't always flattering to some images and a border helps offset that.

Exactickily. ;] I don't use them as much as before but understand their use in certain images. To get rid of them would be counter productive to the photographer's creativity I think.

goinskiing

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/15/2008 11:26:33 AM · #6

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Agreed.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/15/2008 11:28:16 AM · #7

I wouldn't mind seeing borders simplified, but not necessarily eliminated.

ShutterPug

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/15/2008 11:31:37 AM · #8

I don't use much in the line of borders - maybe just a simple framing to offset my image from the gray DPC background. However, I do not agree with eliminating them. Just because some don't like them is no reason to tell those who do that they cannot have them.

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

12/15/2008 11:32:47 AM · #9

Originally posted by scalvert:

I wouldn't mind seeing borders simplified, but not necessarily eliminated.

Yes, keep them in max. two colors/shades

12/15/2008 11:33:58 AM · #10

Originally posted by ShutterPug:

You are probably right. Like so many other aspects of DPC, I guess it comes down to one person (in this case, me!) getting tired of some overused feature and having to figure out for himself whether it will affect his voting or not.

KarenNfld

12/15/2008 11:34:03 AM · #11

I don't use borders much so that rule would not bother me. But I can see where it would bother some people. If you don't like a border someone has used, tell them and, if you feel it necessary, vote them down.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

12/15/2008 11:45:15 AM · #12

Originally posted by eyewave:

Originally posted by scalvert:
I wouldn't mind seeing borders simplified, but not necessarily eliminated.

Yes, keep them in max. two colors/shades

Or perhaps simplified by keeping them symmetrical?

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

12/15/2008 11:46:54 AM · #13

I love borders! The more elaborate the better. I realize it's a minority opinion around here, and I'm often penalized when I choose to use one on a challenge entry. It's a choice I make. I had two recent dq's in a row over borders. The one in basic I understand, the one in advanced threw me. But I look at it like this: I can give an unframed print to someone as a gift and they can pick up a cheap dollar store frame and hang it in their house, or I can pick out a beautiful mat & frame, frame it then give it as a gift and they can hang it in their house. Which would you prefer they and their guests discuss? Posting online without a border is the same as giving the unframed print.

dahkota

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/15/2008 11:49:33 AM · #14

Originally posted by citymars:

I let it affect my voting. The border is part of the presentation. If you add a border to your photograph, you are asking it to be considered along with the rest of the image. I have scored higher because a border perfectly set off an image; no reason why I can't score lower because a border ruins an image.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

12/15/2008 11:50:40 AM · #15

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by eyewave:

Originally posted by scalvert:
I wouldn't mind seeing borders simplified, but not necessarily eliminated.

Yes, keep them in max. two colors/shades

Or perhaps simplified by keeping them symmetrical?

The last thing we need is MORE rules.

electrolost

Nikon D200

Nikon AF Nikkor 28-85mm 1:3.5-4.5

12/15/2008 11:51:09 AM · #16

we must protect our borders!!

one2one

Olympus E-5

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

12/15/2008 11:55:09 AM · #17

Here we go again trying to limit creativity.

ONE person does not like borders.... so let's get rid of them or limit their use or make them simpler or use two colours or make them symmetrical or .... sheesh. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Have fun people....

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

12/15/2008 11:55:12 AM · #18

Originally posted by glad2badad:

The last thing we need is MORE rules.

I concur. I don't know what came over me. Lately I'm annoyed at all the "we have to change this on DPC" posts, and now I started one myself!

Nikon D800

12/15/2008 11:59:27 AM · #19

I don't see whats wrong with borders at all. I seem to get called out for mine a lot lately, but I don't care, IMO I like the effect they can have in complimenting a shot and keeping it contained against the background of the site.

There is a reason why people FRAME photographs and artwork, the border sort of mimics that.

If you don't like it then score it down, I think getting rid of them would be a bad move.