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04/06/2009 07:14:57 PM · #26 |
 redsoxfan,
Funny how you joined DPC just to comment on this thread.:-)
Originally posted by redsoxfan:
Greetings,
I joined the dispatchphoto group last April and have had three photo engagements through the dispatchphoto network.
They are definitely diversified, which I do enjoy. My first was a photoshoot for an Ear Specialist. It was done in his office with his staff.
My second job was completion photography for signage and awnings at a Chuck E Cheese. These pictures had to be done at night and were for a sign company in Texas.
My third job was at a Chinese Restaurant for the Asian Restaurant News publication out of California. They needed pictures of the restaurant, inside and out, the personnel, and several food photography pictures.
In addition to these three, I had three opportunities earlier this year but since I was away during that period, my backup in Rhode Island covered for me. I currently cover central and eastern Massachusetts.
I will also say the administrator, Tim Purpura, is a great guy to work with and very professional.
I guess the decision is yours to decide if your area would have the types of opportunities the network typically supports. Any questions, let me know. |
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04/06/2009 07:46:15 PM · #27 |
awww - but he's a red sox fan. he must be honest...
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04/06/2009 08:56:33 PM · #28 |
i swear, you'd think you'd have to be a lifetime member to dpc and live on the forums in order to be allowed to post anything.
somebody asks about something and just because a first-time poster responds, you just have to be skeptical.
please, tell me, just why can't an outsider be welcomed here? why does an outsider have to jump through all sorts of hoops in order to have any credibility?
really, what the hell is so 'curious' about first time posters. whether they are responding to something or asking something, they rarely get received with open arms. shannon calvert was a first time poster here before even submitting to challenge...imagine what this site would be like had he been given this typical first-time poster treatment... |
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04/06/2009 09:06:56 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by soup:
however - if you were to re-word the offer to something like this. i might take it....
how about we put a website together - we'll get photographers to pay $4/month and merely list their company names and contact information based on a searchablbe database. we'll advertise it as a means to brand themselves - while we merely create a brand out of nothing. to entice those potential customers we'll use spam mail directed toward companies that might be interested in a cheap source for rights managed stock photography.
we'll brand ourselves as an outlet and inlet at the same time. AND we'll pretend we are helping to brand the photographers. little do they know - they still have to brand themselves...
we'll make a ton of money and let the photographers and the stock photo searchers fend for themselves. |
First of all. you have to join this forum to be able to comment so what's the problem there? Second, on the DPC site right here you have to pay 5.00 a month to get all the "benefits" of the site as outlined below. So what's the problem?
5.00 a month benefits @ dpchallenge.com
# Submit to members-only challenges.
# Update your challenge scores on demand.
# Browse the site ad-free.
# Members-only section of the forums.
This logic is very flawed. There are not an unlimited number of spots available for photographers in the network. only a handful. Lets say for arguments sake it's 200 spots nationwide.. 200 spots X 48.00 year. Running the network I take in $9,600.00 a year. BUT my costs, time, and services I provide to the 200 photographers are still fixed and still outlined as I stated. It's a no brainer...why wouldn't you sign up if my city was available? I have nothing to lose and everything to gain from being a part of the network. Where are you going to generate this so called ton of money revenue from running the network? There are no commissions paid , no licensing fees, no payments to the network, nothing. The photographer out there working pockets 100% of his fees. Hello? I don't give any of my revenue to anyone nor do I give away copyrights. I retain the copyrights to my photos but I allow unrestricted use but ONLY for the gigs that I decide fit that criteria. What should be said is: Wow what a great idea, too bad there are not more opportunities around that can help a working photographer expand his revenue stream and provide a needed service at a reasonable price.
Message edited by author 2009-04-06 22:28:32. |
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04/06/2009 09:56:42 PM · #30 |
| It's clear that none of the "regulars" around here have any experience with DispatchPhoto. While I do appreciate their concern, I was really looking for the kinds of direct experience that the "new" posters have related here. Just because they're new and posting here for the first time doesn't mean they're scammers/spammers/whatever. |
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04/06/2009 10:30:28 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Skip:
i swear, you'd think you'd have to be a lifetime member to dpc and live on the forums in order to be allowed to post anything.
somebody asks about something and just because a first-time poster responds, you just have to be skeptical.
please, tell me, just why can't an outsider be welcomed here? why does an outsider have to jump through all sorts of hoops in order to have any credibility?
really, what the hell is so 'curious' about first time posters. whether they are responding to something or asking something, they rarely get received with open arms. shannon calvert was a first time poster here before even submitting to challenge...imagine what this site would be like had he been given this typical first-time poster treatment... |
Have to agree, even thought the others sound a bit spammy, give chiphotoguy a break. I think he's explained his case very eloquently, shame on you people for such an unwelcoming attitude! He's a photographer FFS. |
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04/06/2009 11:34:01 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by rob_smith:
He's a photographer FFS. |
ah, so he is a Full Frame System photographer?
;-) |
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04/07/2009 01:32:18 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by chromeydome:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
He's a photographer FFS. |
ah, so he is a Full Frame System photographer?
;-) |
Yes, so be nice!
:-P |
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04/07/2009 01:35:11 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Prash:
redsoxfan,
Funny how you joined DPC just to comment on this thread.:-)
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What's wrong with that, when he has information to add to the discussion, and direct knowledge to answer the OP's questions?
More than once I've been searching things that have led me to forums where I've had to sign up to contribute or ask questions. Not once was I ever jumped on the way DPCers do; instead my questions were answered or my comments accepted and replied to. Isn't that what forums are for? Sheesh guys, lighten up and ease off the paranoia and protectionism. Maybe you'll get some useful information from a newcomer in one of these threads if you do :) |
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04/07/2009 04:41:15 AM · #35 |
| The reason some folks have been so intent on attacks is that it's a method that's been used before. Although the photolaureates threads have many users that sign on to share their horror stories, JamesHumphrey signed on and said that it isn't a scam blah blah and invited everybody. Now, I think everybody here is aware of photolaureates and how it IS a scam (people have submitted blank photos, which are accepted for their high quality and printed in a book that you too can own for $48 or whatever. So, perhaps the response is a bit over the top, but the concern is there as well. I'll agree that it was odd that photographers from the site would be trolling the internet as PR guys. 3 so quickly seems odd to me. No disrespect to those users, but DPC members try very hard to look out for each other, sometimes to a fault, so hopefully it wasn't too offputting for you. |
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04/07/2009 12:25:41 PM · #36 |
There is nothing wrong with that. Its just... funny.
Plus I have learnt the hard way not to take an absolute newcomer's words too seriously, esp. when its someone recommending an external (non DPC) service.
I have nothing against redsoxfan. But at the same time I have tons of PM from 'experienced' members from back when I joined last year, stating that I would be more credible if/when I would mature a bit at DPC. Half of them look frustrated if you read the words now, and I laugh:-)
Thats just how DPC is... or what I have seen since Sep 2008 at least.
In all fairness, welcome to DPC, redsoxfan!
You would hopefully understand that anyone would be wary of the advice of a stranger on any online forum. And I hope your intentions were motivated purely by willingness to help.
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Prash:
redsoxfan,
Funny how you joined DPC just to comment on this thread.:-)
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What's wrong with that, when he has information to add to the discussion, and direct knowledge to answer the OP's questions?
More than once I've been searching things that have led me to forums where I've had to sign up to contribute or ask questions. Not once was I ever jumped on the way DPCers do; instead my questions were answered or my comments accepted and replied to. Isn't that what forums are for? Sheesh guys, lighten up and ease off the paranoia and protectionism. Maybe you'll get some useful information from a newcomer in one of these threads if you do :) |
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04/07/2009 12:37:16 PM · #37 |
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Message edited by author 2009-04-07 17:09:45.
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04/07/2009 12:39:28 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Prash:
But at the same time I have tons of PM from 'experienced' members from back when I joined last year, stating that I would be more credible if/when I would mature a bit at DPC. |
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Message edited by author 2009-04-07 17:10:39.
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04/07/2009 12:44:41 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
What's wrong with that, when he has information to add to the discussion, and direct knowledge to answer the OP's questions? |
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Message edited by author 2009-04-07 17:09:24.
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04/07/2009 01:03:38 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Prash:
But at the same time I have tons of PM from 'experienced' members from back when I joined last year, stating that I would be more credible if/when I would mature a bit at DPC. |
At less than a year, you're still a pup!......8>) |
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04/07/2009 02:22:39 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
What's wrong with that, when he has information to add to the discussion, and direct knowledge to answer the OP's questions? |
Yes, Sheila, but what relevant validation can a total stranger have for the OP?
Would you accept a total stranger's opinion that the "X" Nikon is a better camera than a "Y" Canon, or would you rather hear from someone here that you know?
You may not even know the person here, but if they've been a member for three years, have entered challenges, and have a portfolio, you could at least see what you think of their work and perhaps have a feel for the person's veracity. |
what a crock.
if you only want input like that, then post it in a members only forum. when you post in an open forum, it's just that: OPEN. well, at least it should be. the OP already stated that he didn't care if the feedback came from inside or outside the dpc community, he was just looking for some feedback.
dpc is a great community, but it is not the only community and it is by no means the sole source of honest feedback. if you want to simply discount opinions until someone has entered challenges, added a portfolio, been around for a few years, you'll only wind up with an inbred, close-minded community. there's a huge difference between someone who's first participation is to start a thread to sell something and someone's whose first participation is to respond to a request for information... |
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04/07/2009 02:29:03 PM · #42 |
skip, in all fairness, it wasn't just "jumping on the newb"
I can understand their skepticism. someone asked about a website/business. then, there are 3 or 4 replies about how it is legitimate and good, etc. the only thing is, all we know about these people is that they are associated with said website. unfortunately, there are less than shady businesses out there who *would* find a thread like this and create a couple of accounts to reply as to their legitimacy.
the opinions of the newly registered may be (and quite possibly are) on the "up and up," but it isn't always like that, sadly.
what jeb is saying, I think, is that if i ask about "product a" and someone who i "know" responds with their experience, it just "feels" a bit more legitimate than if someone whom i've never seen or heard from, but works for the company of "product a" responds. does that make sense. |
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04/07/2009 02:37:50 PM · #43 |
like i said, if you don't want anything but dpc input, then post it in a member's only forum section. if you post it in an open forum, that means you're willing to take all comers. it just seems rather disingenuous to immediately start airing the skepticism when responses come from outside the circle, especially from someone who might be in a position to actually respond.
sure, there's plenty of baddies out there, but there's a lot better ways to check things out than to start holding first-timer's feet to the fire just because they don't have a dpc portfolio... |
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04/07/2009 02:40:08 PM · #44 |
| Exactly my sentiments. Sure, take their words with a grain of salt, but you don't have to beat them up to do that :) |
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04/07/2009 02:59:51 PM · #45 |
Except this is the "Business of Photography" section, which is where he needed to start it because it is a business question.
And yes, it is open in the sense that anyone can read it, but you do have to sign up first. I'm just trying to explain *why* there is a sense of skepticism on the part of some people. It is not always a case of beating the noobie.
If I were googling dpchallenge and found a thread at sometangentiallyrelatedforum.com questioning the legitimacy of the site (which is usually how people end up in these threads, it seems), and I joined the site just to "validate" the legitimacy of dpc in that thread, then I would expect people to question my motives -- it wouldn't take much for their members to see "oh hey, you're a moderator there, of course you would say they are legitimate."
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04/07/2009 03:07:00 PM · #46 |
| nothing wrong with skepticism or taking things with a grain of salt, but if somebody immediately starts discounting your opinion because you're an outsider, chances are you'll want to stay an outsider. |
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04/07/2009 03:28:04 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Skip:
nothing wrong with skepticism or taking things with a grain of salt, but if somebody immediately starts discounting your opinion because you're an outsider, chances are you'll want to stay an outsider. |
Exactly.
I just posted the question here on the off chance that someone here might have actual experience with DispatchPhoto. It would seem that none of the regulars have that, but some have formed opinions based on simply looking at the website. I'm not really interested in opinions not based on direct experience. I am interested in the thoughts and experiences of people who have had dealing with DispatchPhoto. The fact that the posts that reflect that sort of experience come from people who signed up here to chime in, doesn't necessarily discount their posts. In fact, given the openness and directness of their posts, it seems they care enough to sign up here and reply to my post.
Rather than attacking and alienating these newcomers, why doesn't DPC welcome them? |
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04/07/2009 04:51:57 PM · #48 |
WOW...I think this horse has been sufficiently beaten. Didn't mean to start a sh@tstorm but really everything you could possibly want to know is here:
//www.dispatchphoto.com/Membership.htm and as I said from the beginning, any questions please call me, my contact info is under the Chicago metro listing for photographers here: //www.dispatchphoto.com/Members.htm as is Tim Purpura's direct # Tim is the founder and administrator and a great person to know and deal with. Taken directly from the membership page:
Network Description: The North American Dispatch Photographers Network, hereinafter referred to as "Network", is a cooperative referral network of independent photographers. We are photographers in cities and towns across North America who have joined together to collectively market our services to companies and individuals domestically and internationally. Each member photographer is a separate business entity. The Website and the Network is essentially an advertising vehicle for its members. Tim acts as the Network Administrator.
It's a SIMPLE concept |
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04/07/2009 05:07:09 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Skip:
nothing wrong with skepticism or taking things with a grain of salt, but if somebody immediately starts discounting your opinion because you're an outsider, chances are you'll want to stay an outsider. |
ETA: Come to think of it, I have no business in this thread at all, so just discount everything I've said.
Message edited by author 2009-04-07 17:09:00.
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04/07/2009 07:17:03 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Out of how many millions of photographers in the US there are what, 130 members? Why so few? The idea/concept seems great to be honest with you, so that makes me wonder even more why it's not bursting at the seams with photographers. |
This is one of the better questions in this thread- and no one addressed it. Call me disappointed. |
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