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07/30/2009 02:32:31 PM · #1 |
I find it interesting that so many people hated my photo of a dead mountain beaver a few weeks back but now there's a whole challenge based on death. Some of the comments I was receiving from that photo were downright mean.
I didnt enter this particular one but am wondering if any other entrants are getting nasty emails from overly sensitive boobs?
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07/30/2009 02:37:29 PM · #2 |
I wouldnt necessarily call the comments on your mountain beaver shot mean. Many of them just stated that they didnt feel it met the challenge, which explains why they voted how they did.
I didnt enter the death challenge, so I cant comment on the comments they are receiving. |
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07/30/2009 02:47:28 PM · #3 |
| I would not think you could type an E-mail with overly sensitive boobs. |
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07/30/2009 03:08:01 PM · #4 |
Yeah, that would hurt. Ow. Now mine hurt just from thinking about it. Thanks :P
eta; yeah, 2 of your commenters didn't like seeing a dead animal (and 2 others did). I presume those with a problem with death will simply avoid viewing/voting the death challenge.
Message edited by author 2009-07-30 15:10:38. |
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07/30/2009 03:34:14 PM · #5 |
There are photos in the death challenge that I find just gross. They are technically ok, but just blech. Those didn't rate well from me (but I rarely give out 3 and below, so not rating doesn't mean much. There was one that I found disturbing. That one I gave an 8, because it created a strong emotional response--I was disturbed by it.
To be honest, your picture of a beaver just seemed gross, and I didn't find the picture interesting. The tilt of the garage didn't seem artistically necessary, and the lighting on the beaver was poor (fill flash might have helped.) I didn't see much point in it, so I gave it a 4. If it were in the death challenge, there'd be more of a point to it, but I'd probably still give it a 4 because it just doesn't hold much interest.
I wasn't sure whether to write this, but even though I didn't comment on the picture, it might explain some other people's reactions. |
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07/30/2009 03:34:58 PM · #6 |
Comments are fair, just their perspective. I agree that it was really only two of the commenters that had a problem with the subject.
By the way, a comment can be helpful even if it does not side with your perspective or entry. I mention this because you only marked one helpful. You have three constructive comments that suggest the lack of a "ground up" perspective. I would agree with that, and I think they essentially gave good, polite, feedback.
If the image itself created a strong perspective of the dead beaver looking up, etc., then the subject matter would be fine.
My two bits,
Cheers
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07/30/2009 04:51:45 PM · #7 |
I did not vote nor comment on your photo during the challenge, but I will give you my response:
I personally am not too particular about dead animals. It saddens me to look at photos of them as I know some find it humorous (which I think is just sick). But at the same time, I completely recognize art - and if someone finds art in a dead animal, then that is great. But in typical challenges, when I am voting on photos, I am not mentally prepared to see dead animals, so when I come across one, it usually takes me by surprise. I personally will just skip voting on the photo if I immediately get a negative emotion and have to turn my head. I find it is not fair for me to vote down a photo just because I personally have a problem with the subject.
In regards to the Death challenge. I personally prepared myself before viewing the photos - that way if I came across a disturbing photo, it wouldn't take me by surprise.
Anyways - that is my 2 cents :P
BTW - Wendy, I am very interested to find out which photo caused such a response in you. I hope you left a comment so I can come back after the challenge to find the photo. I am always interested in photos that cause the emotional reaction!
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07/30/2009 05:02:25 PM · #8 |
Hey! Turns out via this discussion I get the critique I wanted on that particular photo! That's the kind of feedback I hope to get from DPC. I agree with most of this.
VAWENDY: I'm very glad you decided to write that. It's constructive crit that I need, not quick comments.
MORIADELACROIX: Hmm. I guess my cat/dogs do tend to kill a lot of vermin, I live in the country, I might take it for granted. I definitely didnt think it was funny, more of an annoying inconvenience. I figured, before I threw it out of site, it would be good to give some sort of homage to this animal, some credence to it's small and underground existence.
VITAMINEB: For the record, my lens edge was touching the ground, it was wide angle, to me, the perpective seemed in an up direction. Also, I was surprised no one made the connection between the prospect of death and moving up toward the heavens...
I think I'm still trying to get a hang of this DPC thing. It's far more that it seems! ;) |
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07/30/2009 05:27:38 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
MORIADELACROIX: Hmm. I guess my cat/dogs do tend to kill a lot of vermin, I live in the country, I might take it for granted. I definitely didnt think it was funny, more of an annoying inconvenience. I figured, before I threw it out of site, it would be good to give some sort of homage to this animal, some credence to it's small and underground existence. |
Brian, I just want you to know that I did not mean to imply that I thought YOU found it funny. I never thought that. I meant to say that the reason the photos make me sad is that there are some SICK people out there that get enjoyment out of it. Sort of like someone taking a picture of their kid playing in the bath. That parent never meant any harm with taking the photo - and others may find it cute. But I would find it disturbing to see it online knowing that there are some perverts out there that will get sick enjoyment out of it.
And your photo did not have as bad of a reaction out of me. In fact, I have many cats that live outdoors and I got your title right away! I found it very interesting. But there have been some in the past - there was one in a free study a while ago of road kill that instantly made me hurt when I looked at it. But I try not to allow my personal distaste for the SUBJECT to interfere with my score, so I typically will just not vote. I don't mind voting on composition, technical details, relation to challenge, emotional reaction, etc. But the subject itself is different - for example, I find clowns creepy. I always have - but just because someone has a clown in their photo, I try not to allow that to change my vote.
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07/30/2009 05:30:22 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
VITAMINEB: For the record, my lens edge was touching the ground, it was wide angle, to me, the perpective seemed in an up direction. Also, I was surprised no one made the connection between the prospect of death and moving up toward the heavens...
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Fair enough. I have had images that I felt met the theme, but that voters disagreed with. When I get comments stating DNMC though, I mark them as helpful, not in that they suggested helpful improvements to my photo, but rather that they helped me understand why I scored the way I did. |
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08/16/2009 06:31:56 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Wildfire9:
I find it interesting that so many people hated my photo of a dead mountain beaver a few weeks back but now there's a whole challenge based on death. Some of the comments I was receiving from that photo were downright mean.
I didnt enter this particular one but am wondering if any other entrants are getting nasty emails from overly sensitive boobs? |
Hey don't let them get you down. I visit several bogs to learn more about becoming better. Many veterans of blogs really do nothing but try to rip on people and make comments about something without knowing much. Plus, they are probably on the computer as no one is paying them for their poor work making their heart several sizes too small (grinch reference). They could learn much from the admins who want to grow the forum and love of the art. It's so easy to bully people with less posts since they already have friends or an established presence in the "dpc family". By the way what makes dpc family, the ones who pay the huge membership fee? I bet the ones who sent you mean emails are the same ones who give newbies the so-called warm welcomes here.
Message edited by author 2009-08-16 18:33:42. |
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