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05/22/2004 10:02:18 PM · #1
thought I'd just show my first attempts at two toned pics using PS.....still need work but any comments and ideas are so very much appreciated :) I've got this far thanks to Soup and the digidaan link

original pic 'wasp in the camelia'


first attempt ;) ....not quite sure how I did this but some interesting colours....



2nd attempt...using the hints from the digidaan site ....is better I think ....not sure of the purpose of all this but it's really interesting



sue
05/22/2004 10:09:29 PM · #2
To be totally honest with ya, I like the original the best! The selective desaturation is kind of confusing as it takes your eye to two differing subjects. If you made the flower parts b/w also and left ONLY the bee in color it may be more potent...
05/22/2004 10:11:56 PM · #3
Originally posted by TooCool:

To be totally honest with ya, I like the original the best! The selective desaturation is kind of confusing as it takes your eye to two differing subjects. If you made the flower parts b/w also and left ONLY the bee in color it may be more potent...


Agreed
05/22/2004 10:13:18 PM · #4
haven't worked out how to do that yet Ron.....only just figured out how to get this far. But I do agree ...would look much better with just the wasp in colour

05/22/2004 10:15:46 PM · #5
Originally posted by suemack:

haven't worked out how to do that yet Ron.....only just figured out how to get this far. But I do agree ...would look much better with just the wasp in colour


It's very easy to do in Photoshop. Load the original. Make a duplicate layer and desaturate it. Then put a mask on the black and white layer using the 'hide all' (I think it's called, I don't have ps open right now) option and using a white airbrush on the black mask paint over the bee! Voila black and white shot, color bee!
05/22/2004 10:20:34 PM · #6
Add another voice for the full color version. That red is wonderful.
In psp you could use a desaturation brush on the yellow stamens you have in the third picture. But it looks like you still have some red in it the picture also.
05/22/2004 10:26:38 PM · #7
I agree with those who prefer the color version. The technique is certainly something fun to learn and can be useful, but I think for this image the color version with the red is a good overall shot. I also think the recognition of it being a flower is better with the red than the grayscale.
05/22/2004 10:28:04 PM · #8
Does anyone know if there is a way of getting a 2-tone effect in MS Digital Image Pro 9? I love the use of this sometimes, but can't find a way of doing it within DIP9. Thanks!
05/22/2004 10:37:39 PM · #9
I'm stuck. Got the b/w image or the two-toned pic. Can't figure out.........."Then put a mask on the black and white layer using the 'hide all' (I think it's called, I don't have ps open right now) option and using a white airbrush on the black mask paint over the bee! Voila black and white shot, color bee"

am going out to take some pics and refresh my mind and will come back to this later......and yep - I too prefer the colours of the original - but it's become a matter of bloody-mindedness now. I will learn how to do this!

sue
05/23/2004 02:49:16 AM · #10
Certain subjects,compostions just don't look right when desaturated. The original shot is very good without the special effects :)
05/23/2004 03:02:19 AM · #11
Originally posted by faidoi:

Certain subjects,compostions just don't look right when desaturated. The original shot is very good without the special effects :)


Thankyou. I was pleased with the original too. I'm just trying to learn a little about ps and what can be done.
05/23/2004 03:14:07 AM · #12
Your mushroom picture might be a good candiate to play with photoshop. The subject is in the center and the 'desat' should work fine. A single object seems to be not as destracting.

Message edited by author 2004-05-23 03:18:59.
05/23/2004 06:47:24 AM · #13
mushroom pic ....cool way to spend a chilly Sunday :D
05/23/2004 06:53:05 AM · #14
A single item/subject seems to work better using the 'desat' method. Too many subjects far apart make your eyes wander too much and you lose interest unless there's a flow.


Highlighting the lines will make your eyes follow it.


Highlighting a single object will make your eyes focus longer on the subject.
05/23/2004 06:55:58 AM · #15
Originally posted by suemack:

mushroom pic ....cool way to spend a chilly Sunday :D


I you 'desat' every but the mushroom bringing the hue on the 'room a bit it would work perfectly. Being a single item in the middle of the compostition it would not have to fight for your eyes notice.
05/23/2004 07:03:26 AM · #16
faidoi ...could you please describe how you did the car.....I'm having problems getting a reasonable result

thanks
sue
05/23/2004 07:09:37 AM · #17
Originally posted by suemack:

faidoi ...could you please describe how you did the car.....I'm having problems getting a reasonable result

thanks
sue


Out of all the pictures the car is the only that is not basic challenge legal.

By desaturating the whole picture (digidan or whatever process) and using the history brush to paint back in the car. With a graphics tablet it's pretty quick.

I have to play around with snapshot a bit more but, if you don't resize your image you can simply paint the subject with the original colors. Using a snapshot you can probably achieve better control.

Only had PS7 a couple of months, so I'm still playing around.

Message edited by author 2004-05-23 07:33:18.
05/23/2004 07:17:39 AM · #18
Here's another one of my favorite desats with background blur. Maybe I'll redo and make a print or something.

Message edited by author 2004-05-23 07:18:30.
05/23/2004 07:22:29 AM · #19
Originally posted by faidoi:


Out of all the pictures the car is the only that is the basic challenge legal.


I'd have thought that was an illegal operation in Basic editing??
05/23/2004 07:25:45 AM · #20
The key with legal basic challenge type 'desat' is making sure when you compose a shot that similiar type of colors are not included within the composition. Doing it the basic challenge legal way is actually the worst way because control is more difficult.

On the band-aid picture I went out and bought some teal/blue band-aids because if I were to use flesh colored ones it would match my fingers and the painted face of the figurine.

Message edited by author 2004-05-23 07:27:20.
05/23/2004 07:32:35 AM · #21
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by faidoi:


Out of all the pictures the car is the only that is the basic challenge legal.


I'd have thought that was an illegal operation in Basic editing??


You are correct. It's 4:30am here in San Francisco and I don't know where my mine is. Corrected it above.
05/23/2004 08:07:53 AM · #22
and it's just after midnight here in NZ :)

....ok, when I try to use the history brush I get a message from ps saying 'could not use the history brush because the history state does not contain a corresponding layer'. I've tried making a duplicate layer of the original pic, a duplicate of the desaturated layer but it's not happening. I'm doing something really simple wrong but can't work out what it is.
05/23/2004 04:02:34 PM · #23
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05/23/2004 04:24:00 PM · #24
Originally posted by suemack:

and it's just after midnight here in NZ :)

....ok, when I try to use the history brush I get a message from ps saying 'could not use the history brush because the history state does not contain a corresponding layer'. I've tried making a duplicate layer of the original pic, a duplicate of the desaturated layer but it's not happening. I'm doing something really simple wrong but can't work out what it is.

As is pointed out in the link that faidoi provided: don't duplicate any layers. Just open the image, desaturate, click in the box to the left of 'Open' in the history palette, select the history brush, choose a brush shape and size, and paint over the areas that you don't want desaturated. Good luck!
05/24/2004 03:14:13 AM · #25
:D you guys are awesome!! Needs work but I've got the idea. Thankyou :)
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