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07/02/2010 11:04:52 AM · #1
When are you going?
06/30/2010 01:20:08 PM · #2
Related or unrelated my best suggestion is to take receipts or a notarized affiliate of ownership. Had friends who live her e but are from Ireland. They went home for a trip and were stopped by customs who said that they were bringing in a NEW camera and not the one that they bought here in the states.

Rather than bringing receipts, work up a ownership paper on ALL your photo gear and then have it notarized at your bank or anywhere else you can find a notary. They if you get stopped coming back home to the states, you can whip it out and not have to explain things in customs and risk missing a flight.

Just a thought. Easy to do and may save hours.

Message edited by author 2010-06-30 23:34:42.
06/30/2010 05:43:43 AM · #3
Joe, I have been to Venice and some other places recently and took the 70-200 (and 1.4 extender), the 24-105 and the 45 T/S with me. On my FF I really didn't need the 17-40 - when I wanted a wider angle (rarely), I shot panos and stitched them in PS. The 70-200 was essential, especially for shots from the boat in Venice (as well as for wildlife and candid shots of course).

Venice seems to be quite a save place - other than Rome (what I heard), you should be VERY careful there when showing your gear.
06/30/2010 01:48:58 AM · #4
Joe, on my frequent trips, I am using my walkaround 28-300mm Tamron most of the time (it replaced 18-20mm Nikon when I upgraded to full frame). I value the ability to capture street action above the supreme technical quality, so it works well for me. Of course I would love to have my 70-200mm Nikon with me at certain times, but the thought of carrying this monster around all the time... and having to swap it with wide angle all the time... no, thanks. I don't think it is dangerous, in my experience Italy is pretty safe (compared to Spain and certain parts of France, for example), just a hassle. Same for a tripod. I do carry a little pocket-size Manfrotto tripod which comes in handy in a pinch. This shot
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was done with it (30s exposure), so it is not useless. Oh, I also carry a wide angle lens (12-24 Tokina) for landscapes and a lensbaby (now also a fisheye) for fun, which are not too much extra weight. That's about it.
06/30/2010 01:30:05 AM · #5
Another method I've used (and what is generally my approach for my camera when I'm backpacking or doing an ascent or something in the outdoors) is to use a very small bag that is deep enough to hold my lens, but not necessarily the body entirely, and leave the bag open. I leave this at the top of my pack, and keep it in place by packing other items around it. This way, I can literally grab the body and lift the camera completely out and be ready for shooting quickly, and put it away very quickly as well. Any other lenses I bring along are kept in individual padded cases and located wherever in my pack I please.
I actually started doing this because I had a Tamrac bag I got for my Fuji, but that would barely house my D300 w/out grip, and really wouldn't w/ grip. Then I stumbled on this great use. The way I figure is that if the very top of my backpack is being contacted hard enough to harm my camera, I'm probably in pretty bad shape anyway.
06/30/2010 12:56:10 AM · #6
Heck I'd just take a padded daypack, the kind they make for school with a laptop compartment and organizer front. That is the way I always travel now with my camera gear. I've taken my camera, a couple of lenses (including my 80-400 in its own case in the bottom of the pack on two occasions), filters, flash, spare cards and battery, etc. that way to China, Italy, Hawaii, Costa Rica, and more. Makes a great carry on and holds drinks, snacks, tickets, book and the like to boot. No one ever knows there is thousands of dollars of camera equipment in it.

Message edited by author 2010-06-30 00:58:31.
06/30/2010 12:45:46 AM · #7
Originally posted by jdannels:

Thanks guys, I might take my DSLR gorilla pod and hope for the best, or atleast find a bag to throw some dirt to make a stable foundation. 70-200 will stay home I guess. I did shoot all of these in Bali with mostly a 50 mm 1.8 and a Sigma 10-20 mm so adding the sigma 30 1.4 should make a nice addition. Thanks for the input.

What about this thought. Take my small bag and three lenses, and put it in a larger regular backpack so that people can't see my camera bag all the time. Is that overkill? It would give me some space ofr oother things too. I used to do this in SF when I did not need all my tools for work and people paid less attention to me and my stuff. Could have been in my head though. :P


I did that (the bag within a backpack) when I went to New Zealand, and it worked well. It made me feel better that it just looked like a random backpack. But then, I was also essentially with that bag 24/7 unless I was going to the grocery store or something. It was also nice because it's more modular... I could just take the camera bag if I wanted to just go to an overlook or something, or take the whole thing if I wanted the other stuff in the pack too.
06/30/2010 12:42:17 AM · #8
Thanks guys, I might take my DSLR gorilla pod and hope for the best, or atleast find a bag to throw some dirt to make a stable foundation. 70-200 will stay home I guess. I did shoot all of these in Bali with mostly a 50 mm 1.8 and a Sigma 10-20 mm so adding the sigma 30 1.4 should make a nice addition. Thanks for the input.

What about this thought. Take my small bag and three lenses, and put it in a larger regular backpack so that people can't see my camera bag all the time. Is that overkill? It would give me some space ofr oother things too. I used to do this in SF when I did not need all my tools for work and people paid less attention to me and my stuff. Could have been in my head though. :P
06/29/2010 11:48:12 PM · #9
Originally posted by jdannels:

So I am leaving for Italy and am also trying to decide which lenses to take. I have the Nikon 70-200 2.8 VR which is a beast. On one hand it is by far the best lens I own, but it weighs a couple of pounds and would hurt the most if stolen.
Also I am deciding if I should take my tripod, which is manfrotto 190 cxpro3 carbon fiber my tripod as I take a lot of long exposure shots and want something sturdy. I am traveling to Genoa, CinqueTerra, Venice and Rome. Is the 70-200 just not smart to take? I looked through LevT's Gallery and saw many shots that looked liked long zoom'ed candids. I enjoy long exposures but am not sure if it is safe or wise to take my tripod but I think I will.

Here is what is in the bag:
Sigma 30mm 1.4
Sigma 10-20
Nikon D300s
Tripod,
B+W ND 110 10 stop ND filter for long exposures
4 batteries.

Two other options to add:
Tamron 17-50 or 50 mm 1.8
70-200
or all of them and take my regular large camera bag, but pick and choose gear for different day trips.

I could take
17-50 or 50 mm and take a smaller camera bag. but would keep other gear like tripod in my room most of the time until I decide I am going to use it.

Any thoughts?


When I went to Italy, I think I used my 70-200 maybe once or twice, I left it at home on subsequent trips. Mostly I used my 50 and 28mm primes and my 12-24 most of all. I was mostly in Northern Italy in the Piemonte region.

ETA: I didn't take a tripod either, save a small gorillapod for my P&S, I think it wold be a tremendous PITA trying to use it there.

Message edited by author 2010-06-29 23:49:59.
06/29/2010 11:46:00 PM · #10
Joe - I've been to Italy a couple of times and would have loved a tripod for long exposures but I can tell you it would likley be a pain to try and carry around Italy. You will get quite a bit of use out of your wide lenses that you intend to take and the Sigma 30 1.4 should enable you to shoot inside fairly well. The 70-200 would be great but I think your instincts are correct about not bringing it, you would be worried about it all the time and the weight would become an issue with all the walking on stone you will be doing. I've used the Nikon 18-200 with pretty good success but it is not nearly as sharp or fast.

In any case you can't go wrong no matter what you bring and will be in heaven as to subjects. Have fun!

06/29/2010 11:02:41 PM · #11
So I am leaving for Italy and am also trying to decide which lenses to take. I have the Nikon 70-200 2.8 VR which is a beast. On one hand it is by far the best lens I own, but it weighs a couple of pounds and would hurt the most if stolen.
Also I am deciding if I should take my tripod, which is manfrotto 190 cxpro3 carbon fiber my tripod as I take a lot of long exposure shots and want something sturdy. I am traveling to Genoa, CinqueTerra, Venice and Rome. Is the 70-200 just not smart to take? I looked through LevT's Gallery and saw many shots that looked liked long zoom'ed candids. I enjoy long exposures but am not sure if it is safe or wise to take my tripod but I think I will.

Here is what is in the bag:
Sigma 30mm 1.4
Sigma 10-20
Nikon D300s
Tripod,
B+W ND 110 10 stop ND filter for long exposures
4 batteries.

Two other options to add:
Tamron 17-50 or 50 mm 1.8
70-200
or all of them and take my regular large camera bag, but pick and choose gear for different day trips.

I could take
17-50 or 50 mm and take a smaller camera bag. but would keep other gear like tripod in my room most of the time until I decide I am going to use it.

Any thoughts?
06/16/2010 01:36:56 AM · #12
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Don't forget to bring an adaptor for you charger and other electronic apparatus you might bring with you as the electrical plugs and output in Europe is quite different than that in Canada.

Ray


Good point.

You can get a set that covers almost any socket you might find throughout the world.

Another important consideration is to make sure that whatever you plug into the adapter is "dual voltage". That is to say the 220 50Hz power that's prevalent in Europe.

On the label, it will say something like: "100-240V, 50-60Hz" and that's what you want to see. Otherwise, you might let the magic smoke out of your charger.
06/15/2010 10:19:38 PM · #13
Most of all, enjoy yourself and take lots of pictures.
06/15/2010 10:07:12 PM · #14
Don't forget to bring an adaptor for you charger and other electronic apparatus you might bring with you as the electrical plugs and output in Europe is quite different than that in Canada.

Ray
06/15/2010 07:50:32 PM · #15
Pin Hole all the way. You won't need anything else. Light, easy to carry and you won't be bumping a clumsy ole lens into your fellow travelers.
06/15/2010 07:35:33 PM · #16
You said you are going to travel light. Are you going for the sole purpose of taking photos or to enjoy the scenery and want good shots to take back with you?

I would suggest packing light, one lens, the Tamron 18-270. It is a fantastic lens.

Its not perfect, no lens with that range is, but if you want a very decent lens for travel, that is the way to go.

I was on business in Freiburg Germany. Went to Switzerland, France, and took a few hundred photos. I was lucky to have borrowed that lens.

Pack light. Take one lens.

ETA: If you want examples of what the lens can do, let me know, I'll send you links more links than the ones here:
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This is only a small collection of what I have. The last is not very good for the sole purpose of showing what it can do in a bad situation.


Message edited by author 2010-06-15 19:37:50.
06/15/2010 05:43:29 PM · #17
Originally posted by hopper:

The G11 will get the most use ... not too many people like lugging equipment around on vacation. The G11 has excellent image quality, shoots in RAW, the focal length is perfect, and it's more or less pocket-able.


Agreed.

I took my DSLR on my 1st trip to Europe, and while I got some great shots, it was a complete PITA. When I went back, I took my G7, it was perfect...if you're traveling light as you say, you don't need anything more. I was there on business (mostly).
06/15/2010 01:24:04 PM · #18
The G11 will get the most use ... not too many people like lugging equipment around on vacation. The G11 has excellent image quality, shoots in RAW, the focal length is perfect, and it's more or less pocket-able.
06/15/2010 01:13:35 PM · #19
Originally posted by lyta:

Oh well I forgot about my Sigma! I have a 10-20 Sigma I'll take! Not much room or weight to it either!
Thanks


Ah, there ya go. You're all set then. Leave the 17-40mm behind, take the 10-20mm and the 24-105mm. If you have the room, take also the 75-300mm, but that would be the first one I'd sacrifice if I were cutting back.

R.
06/15/2010 01:08:46 PM · #20
Other than maybe for candid people shots like Wendy mentioned I doubt you will use your long lens much. I have traveled to those cities a couple of times and wide to mid range is your friend. Also the fastest glass is always great because you will be taking lots of indoor shots. If it was me I would leave the 70-300 at home and take the other three mentioned, maybe only the 17-40 f4L and the 24-105 f4L IS to save weight and space. Changing lenses is always a pain out in the crowded streets of those old cities. That is why I don't think you will use the long lens much, unless it is on your camera when you see a candid people shot it is unlikely you will get it changed for the shot.

In any case have fun, those are great destinations that will fill up your cards fast.
06/15/2010 12:43:04 PM · #21
I loved having my long lens in Italy, because I enjoyed doing people shots, and it allowed me to take them from a distance.

The funny thing is, I rarely use my 24-105 anymore. I carry my 10-22, 100-44 and 100mm macro, and rarely use a mid-length lens.
06/15/2010 12:39:01 PM · #22
If you're going to Venice, go with the 17-40. You will find very little use with the others mentioned. However, with that being said, I used an 85 almost exclusivly when I was there. That was during the first day of Canivale and I was going for people not the city itself. The streets are very narrow as are the canals. I agree with Bear, your long lens probably won't get much use if any. Enjoy the scenery, the people , the food, and most especialy the WINE.
06/15/2010 12:24:44 PM · #23
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Heck, what I'D do is run out and buy the 10-22mm for this trip, then take the 10-22mm and the 24-105mm. I'd bet you dollars to donuts that the 75-300 gets very little use compared with WA. Anyway by FAR my most-used lens on the 20D was 10-22mm, and now on the 5D it's 17-40mm. By FAR... And I know this statistic would be even more skewed if I were shooting Italian cities and towns.

I'm not sure why you even HAVE the 17-40mm for this camera, the 10-22mm is a much better fit.

R.


Oh well I forgot about my Sigma! I have a 10-20 Sigma I'll take! Not much room or weight to it either!
Thanks
06/15/2010 12:06:49 PM · #24
I don't have a lens suggestion, other than; hold on to your lens in public, along with your camera. I remember hearing about someone loosing their 24-105 there, when someone came up to her and was trying to sell them something. Apparently they came close enough to take the lens of the camera, while it was around the photogs neck. After she told the person that they where not interested and they had left, she noticed that the lens was gone, taken right off the camera that she was very diligently holding on to..
06/15/2010 11:56:13 AM · #25
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Heck, what I'D do is run out and buy the 10-22mm for this trip, then take the 10-22mm and the 24-105mm. I'd bet you dollars to donuts that the 75-300 gets very little use compared with WA. Anyway by FAR my most-used lens on the 20D was 10-22mm, and now on the 5D it's 17-40mm. By FAR... And I know this statistic would be even more skewed if I were shooting Italian cities and towns.

I'm not sure why you even HAVE the 17-40mm for this camera, the 10-22mm is a much better fit.

R.


or if money is tight you can rent the 10-22 for probably around $50 .... it is an awesome lens, especially useful when space is limited and you want to get the whole building in
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